For the sake of credibility lets not claim fraud.....

[Flabbergasted]

unless we have compelling evidence and especially when it's between democrats in primaries where upsets are bound to occur.

By claiming fraud at the drop of a hat we reduce our credibility on the subject.

[eileen_d]

1. No shit! n/t

[Yael]

2. THANK YOU

Damn, this place reads like the red scare of the 1950s today.

[Kajsa]

3. K&R.

You said it!


:kick:

[AlCzervik]

4. and if a democrat wins in November i bet no one will be claiming fraud then.

[Der Blaue Engel]

11. Have you met Republicans?

I fully expect the biggest tantrum in the history of politics to break out following a Democratic win.

[Kucinich4America]

12. The 'Pukes will.....

And let 'em do so. Maybe then something will get done about this shit, if there's enough pressure from both sides.

[Flabbergasted]

13. Good point! nt

[AlCzervik]

14. f them but they probably will try to claim that.

[Honeycombe8]

5. Easy for me, since I don't think there WAS fraud. nt

[Flabbergasted]

10. Highly likely none occurred but we shouldn't even be bringing it up without something

to back it up.

[K Gardner]

6. Agree. I'm over my tinfoil Diebold moment. I'm finally convinced women and the pity vote were

responsible :-)

[Kucinich4America]

7. For sake of credibility, let's storm the polling places

And smash these fucking worthless machines, so there is no longer a question.

[ORDagnabbit]

8. I agree lets count the votes and compare them to the machine tabulations

and find out why they seem to only poll correctly in hand counted areas.

polling to hand counts = correct
exit polling to hand counts = correct


polling to machine counts = error
exit polling to machine counts = error

[Birthmark]

9. Good for you.

Fraud would be a very serious problem. It is also a crime in your better jurisdictions. So, you are eminently correct that any charge of such a crime should be accompanied by some pretty compelling evidence; and statistical "evidence" doesn't come close to making the grade.

I'll be happy to look at any real evidence of fraud. If it holds up, *anyone* from *any* camp (or Party, for that matter) can count on my support in finding and prosecuting the offenders.

But crazy ass claims based on emotions and statistical cherry picking and/or manipulation is counterproductive, dishonest, and totally unjustified.