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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:58 PM
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"if the polls continue to be wrong I'm gonna start looking for a culprit"
Chris Matthews, what a fuckin windbag! He is doing everything he can to diminish Hillary's win last night. He is a shameless piece of shit

He says the exit polling was bad. Maybe MSNBC's was bad. And he relied on it and felt confident she would be done last night, that their would be a dagger in her heart, and that Obama would be coronated. Well fuck off Chris, that didn't happen and because you got screwn by the MSNBC polls is your fuckin problem. Besides the point that any actual human being would never behave as outrageously as you did last night and this morning. Too fuckin bad Chris.

And from what I heard Fox News exit polling and CNN exit polling had it right.

Fox News had it at the actual outcome.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:04 PM
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1. Everything?
Then why has he not mentioned rigged voting machines?
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:09 PM
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2. but the polls werent wrong in hand counted areas only in machine counted areas
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:11 PM
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3. Nothing like a misleading graph...
...to prop up a fallacious argument, is there?
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:12 PM
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4. sorry charlie....your the one who is afraid of transparent and verifiable elections
news orgs are changing their exit polling to match results...


obama exit polled at 39%
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/exit-poll-obama.html


and please for the love of god how is the chart misleading


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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:19 PM
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7. Cherry picking
obama exit polled at 39%...at 8:10 pm. Even so, the final vote totals appear to be within the margin of error for the exit polls.

The chart is misleading because it relies on raw statistics, deceptively, imo.

For instance, where were the machines used?

Actually, I don't care since this "issue" appears to be the Cult of Obama whining about losing a single primary in a small state. It's really pretty silly.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:21 PM
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9. no its called the cult of democracy.
transparent and verifiable elections period end of story.


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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:22 PM
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10. Yes, of course.
Good luck on your crusade.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:31 PM
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16. No, it's called the 'cult of Obama'.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:33 PM
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17. I'm a kucinich support so go suck an egg.
I care about democracy and I care about transparent and verifiable elections for everyone not just my candidate.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:20 PM
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8. Don't post lies
That is misleading. Rural areas are more blue and went for Obama.

So what?

Stop promoting lies.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:23 PM
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11. stop being a tool for the republicans and the corporations...
transparent and verifiable elections

answer me this then

why the following? did they only poll in rural areas?

polling to hand counts = correct
exit polling to hand counts = correct


polling to machine counts = error
exit polling to machine counts = error
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:27 PM
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13. I'm a tool for pointing out a simple and verifiable fact?
OK - see ya :hi:
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:29 PM
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14. what fact did you give?? I gave you numbers that are facts. verifiable
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:34 PM
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18. Kind of makes you glad you voted for Hillary, doesn't it?
;-)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:37 PM
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19. There's no relationship between the red/blue breakdown of NH
and who I voted for. I think correcting obvious nonsense is appropriate under any circumstances!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:12 PM
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5. The best part about this is that Tweety has been utterly discredited
I like that people are naming him specifically as the worst abuser of the past weekend. Between Tweety and Andrea Mitchell, it was perhaps the most despicable display in contemporary American journalism.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:15 PM
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6. very true. I've never seen it that bad, even from Faux Snooze. nt
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:24 PM
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12. Culprit ? Well, Tweety, you can start by looking in the mirror. . .
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:42 PM by DinahMoeHum
Yeah. You.

Up against yourself, asshole.

:kick:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:30 PM
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15. This is all getting so stupid....
Chris needs to be fired.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:39 PM
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20. Yep
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:46 PM
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21. I agree with you 100% there
The guy is a squeaky-freaky bombastic blow-hard who makes no sense and can't stop spinning everything beyond recognition.
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