Voters are tiring of the pro Obama Negativity

[niceypoo]

While Obama talks about hope and change, his supporters and the media spew venom. The media spews hatred and venom of Hillary Clinton in Obama's name. Air America spews venom against Hillary in Obama's name. Obama's supporters spew venom and hatred against Hillary in Obama's name. The republicans spew venom and hatred against Hillary because they are obsessed with her. It is driving support away from Obama, because many voters are appalled by the pro Obama negativity.

Obama is running as the anti-Hillary wether he wants to or not. His 'message' of hope is drowned out by his supporters, the republicans, the media, and their negative Clinton Obsession, all in his name. The media pounces on and fuels it. The drumbeat is loud very viscious. Barak Obama's supporters, and Hillary Clinton's detractors, are sinking Obama.

Rick Lazio ran as the anti-Hillary in her first senate campaign. It propelled Hillary Clinton's campaign as voters tired of Lazio's anti-Hillary message, which drowned out everything else. Obama is being led down the same path. With every Hillary victory, the media drumbeat will become louder and more venomous, and her support will grow as a natural push-back. Ironically it is those who want him to win who are sinking him.

Negativity isn't change, it's same old, same old, for the last eight years. Obama's supporters are pushing him right off a cliff.

[NoodleBoy]

1. I spew venom? WOW! I never knew that. Thanks person who doesn't know me!

[TwilightGardener]

2. If Obama loses the whole shebang, I'm afraid he's going to go on

the Today Show and say "It was Wienerdoggie, on DU. She spewed too much venom. It overwhelmed America."

[City Lights]

20. ROFL!

:spray:

[BeyondGeography]

21. You Dawg, you

:spank:

[liberalhistorian]

3. Oh, bullshit. It's the other way around.

Hillary has tried to smear Obama's campaign from day one, beginning with threats against Hollywood big names making donations to Obama, or anyone else but her. She has an arrogant air of entitlement about her, I mean, how DARE anyone NOT want to Anoint her? And anyone who doesn't vote for her or who isn't a supporter of her candidacy is sexist! (playing the gender card is as bad as playing the race card). Hillary's campaign and her supporters have been much more vicious and antagonistic to Obama and other candidates than the other way around.

Bill's whinefest the other day against Obama and anyone who dares to be for him (I believe Talking Points Memo had a great essay on that entitled "Bill Clinton keys Obama's car") is childish and petulant, and, again, smacks of arrogance and entitlement.

Oh, and I will also continue to speak out against Hillary's votes in favor of EVERY SINGLE BILL for war funding and her continuing refusal to acknowledge that she may have been wrong, much less apologize, as Edwards has done, and her vote FOR Kyl-Lieberman. If that makes me someone "spewing venom" (i.e., the truth), then so fucking be it.

[niceypoo]

8. And Obamas supporters smear her, along with the media

[Buzz Clik]

4. nice try.

[niceypoo]

9. Refute it if you disagree

[Buzz Clik]

33. It's been done on this thread already.

If you think some Obama supporter has been mean to you, well, I'm sorry.

But if you think the negativity is limited to his supporters, you've not been paying attention.

[niceypoo]

39. ???

Have Obama supporters "been mean to" me? Lol, how bizarre. Are you insinuating that Obama's supporters attack people personally? Say it isn't so, Joe.

[Colobo]

5. You have very interesting ideas

that, sadly, are not based on reality.

[niceypoo]

12. Then refute them

[Imagevision]

6. I picked up two Barack Obama bumper stickers this morning...

[liberalhistorian]

11. Oh, NOES! You are SO gonna get

it now, LOL! Stop spewing venom and hatred against the One True Candidate, or you'll burn in hell! :evilgrin:

[Bluerthanblue]

7. what????

sorry, this just doesn't make sense.

What voters gave you this information?

Are you stating your opinion? If so, I respectfully disagree.

[Dawgs]

10. Do you have a link that shows voters are tiring of Obama?

Less than a week ago he beat every other candidate, including Republicans, by a large margin. Yesterday he had a very good showing in a state where he has been consistently behind.

Where is this proof that voters are tiring of Obama?

[niceypoo]

13. New Hampshire

[liberalhistorian]

17. BZZZZT, bullshit again! Hillary barely squeaked by in NH,

Obama not only made a very strong showing, but won in many areas. If they were "tiring" of Obama, she would have come out much stronger than she did. And polls in Super Tuesday states also refute that. So, once again, nice fucking try. At least with her campaigning, she might not be able to vote in favor of yet more war funding bills like she always does.

[niceypoo]

44. Obama was ahead by how many points?

Backlash against the negativity perpetrated in his name (not by his camp) in the media et al. It's too bad really, because I think Obama would make a wonderful president.

[liberalhistorian]

15. He/she can't do that because it's nothing more than

bullshit wishful thinking. And Hillary may have squeaked by in NH, but Obama had a damned strong showing, too, and won in many areas.

[niceypoo]

16. They arent tiring of Obama

They are tiring of his negative support base. See New Hampshire, 01/08/2008.

[sunonmars]

18. What?

If you have a massive momentum and an approximate 10 to 12% poll lead and call that consistently behind then i dont know.

Its the rhetoric stupid

[HeraldSquare212]

14. "I just tell the truth and they think it's hell" nt

[youthere]

19. Oh stop.

Obama and the majority of his supporters are a class act. I have NEVER heard anyone outside of DU complaining about negativity coming from the Obama camp.

[niceypoo]

22. Watch the cable news, you must have missed Matthews diatribe

and listen to Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller then get back to me.

[babylonsister]

38. Try thinking for yourself!

:think:

[niceypoo]

24. I never said negativity is coming out of Obama's camp

Apparently you have missed my point entirely. It is coming from the media and Obama's support base.

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. "With every Hillary victory..."

She's had one (1) victory so far, and Obama still leads in pledged delegates.

Here she goes, being "inevitable" again.

[niceypoo]

25. I hate self dupes

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[niceypoo]

26. And, as predicted, the drumbeat has gotten louder

[RaleighNCDUer]

34. Problem with that is

I'm not an Obama supporter.

I'm merely stating the FACTS.

The SPIN is the media yelling about Clinton 'regaining the lead', when she did no such thing.

[Occam Bandage]

27. How utterly bizarre.

And no, I won't "refute" them, any more than I could "refute" a man who walks up to me, shrieks in my ear, and shits in his shoes.

[niceypoo]

28. Your post is a perfect example of the pompous attitude I am talking about

Case in point

[Occam Bandage]

30. Keep the hit parade coming. It's this sort of negative trash that brought people to Obama.

And it was Hillary's turnaround as a sympathetic figure that led her to edge Obama in NH.

[liberalhistorian]

32. Pompous? Hillary and her supporters have such an air

of arrogant entitlement that they smear anyone who even criticizes her in the slightest, and her supporters on here have been shoving her down our throats for months now, and you have the gall to claim that Obama's people have a pompous attitude? Look in the freaking mirror along with Hillary.

Oh, and "with every Hillary victory?" I hardly call one squeak-by win so far "every victory."

[niceypoo]

41. I support Edwards now and Kucinich previously

so your theory is meaningless. I support in this order:

Kucinich
Edwards
Obama
Hillary

You have missed my point entirely

[Bonobo]

29. Another person who votes based on a candidate's "supporters". God help us!

[thevoiceofreason]

31. Typically

Folks who have skin in a game will insist on more than one data point. All I have heard from Obama supporters, of which I am one, is "congratulations" to Hillary -- then move on.

I think this season is a blast. Don't you?

[bellasgrams]

35. Repbs are laughing their----- off. They want Obama as the

andidate. They know the red-neck good ole boys won't let this happen. And as a side note. I do worry about Obama
and Hillary. There are a lot of crackpots out there that don't want a black or a woman. (Only in freedom loving America)

[tridim]

36. Is this your first primary?

It sure sounds like it.

[Lerkfish]

37. whew! its a good thing there's no proClinton negativitiy!

man, good thing. otherwise it would have been really really ugly a couple of days ago.

[Anouka]

40. Translation: 'you people' better know your place

same song different day

[emilyg]

46. Do you walk around with a chip on your shoulder?

[2partynot4me]

42. Obama had nothing to do with it

You said, "...it's same old, same old, for the last eight years."

I couldn't agree with you more on that. Personally, my anti-Hillary didn't come from Obama - she earned it all by herself.

Hillary not only gave Bush & Cheney a blank check to invade a country without moral or legal basis "once" (Iraq), but she has given them a second blank check - this time for Iran! Bush and Cheney are once again stepping up the rhetoric, as their war drums get louder and louder. Doesn't this all sound terribly famliar - or is it that folks simply have a very short memory?

No Sir, twas not Obama or the media or anyone else that made me feel negative toward Hillary. She did that all by herself. I don't "hate" Hillary. Just feel an incredible sadness that she caves so easily and doesn't have the backbone to take the political risk to do the right thing. Doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different outcome is pinning hope on something that can't win. Her vote and the fact that she "hoped" no one would take notice of her vote in September closed the deal for me.

[liberalhistorian]

43. Excellent!

Couldn't have said it better. And welcome to DU!!

[Scriptor Ignotus]

45. negativity =

not wanting Hillary Clinton to be our nominee.

[Cha]

47. Bullshit..there's been nothing but

bullshit venom coming from camp hillary and this isn't even a nice try.

[liberalhistorian]

48. You might as well bang your head against the wall.

This is coming from the "don't give me the facts, my mind is made up" crowd of Hill-bots.

[Cha]

50. Yeah, I know..they put

this bullshit up to brainwash and I just answer it so someone reading will get another version besides hillary's surrogates.

How ya doin', liberalhistorian? :hi:

[1corona4u]

49. Yep.

[2rth2pwr]

51. Bullseye. nt

[Perry Logan]

52. Couldn't have said it half so well.

[Occam Bandage]

53. That's because you still have some of your sanity left.