Russert says Obama's internals had him up by 14%...

[SaveElmer]

And Hillary's had hers down by 11%...

[jackson_dem]

1. Can anyone say racism?

Ask Tom Bradley or Doug Wilder about this.

[SaveElmer]

5. Ohy please...I know you just saw that on MSNBC...

There is no evidence whatsoever for that...

[jackson_dem]

12. I don't get MSNBC

What else explains such a dramatic shift in one day?

[SaveElmer]

19. Many things...

Polling models were wrong, the beating Hillary took in the prses produced a backlash, great campaigning by Hillary in the last few days....many many things...perhaps voters were reminded of the Hillary they had been supporting up until the last weel and switched back...

There is no logical reason to believe 14% of New Hampshire voters are racist enough to not vote for Obama but say they would to pollsters...

[antiimperialist]

24. I think whoever posted this thread is lying about Russert saying this about the internals

I say ban him.

[shraby]

26. I heard Russert say that too.

[BootinUp]

7. I hate to think

thats what happened here. I would much rather focus on Clintons efforts. Also the vote breakdown does not scream racism to me.

[Texas_Kat]

17. you're kidding... you and tweety, huh?

[1corona4u]

18. Oh, here we fucking go....

Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Clinton 99,392 39% 9 Winner
Obama 92,653 37%
Does that look like racism to you???? Better get Sharpton & Jackson on the phone!!!!

Start this shit, and it's going to be a SHORT campagin!!!!!

[truebrit71]

2. Something stinks...

...and the MSM presstitutes just orgasm all over themselves...

[Renew Deal]

3. I think those were real.

I think Hillary had quite a day yesteday.

[still_one]

4. I don't believe a word russert says, but if that is true then the people are lying to the polls

Did he mention ANYTHING about the 17% undecided?

If not he is a liar

[KittyWampus]

14. that's not the only option. There is Diebold being used extensively in NH. Who knows.

and that's the sad thing about non-secured electronic voting.

It makes questioning ANY election results on such machinery a bit more valid.

note-I'm not saying this is what happened.

[still_one]

20. Will the Democrats in Congress have zip about that also, so obviously they don't care /nt

[Occam Bandage]

6. What a strange story today was.

[HeraldSquare212]

8. Bizarre

but you'd have to know how they were modeling it.

[Colobo]

9. NH has proven to be unpredictable.

This is politics, expect the unexpected.

[LakeSamish706]

10. Yep, and I wonder with a post here on DU today if the machines....

were at play in NH... Hmmmm I guess we will never know and so it goes...

[LittleBlue]

11. Very odd

When every external poll is outside the margin of error, and the internals are too, something unprecedented has happened.

[K Gardner]

13. Matthews: Somebody's got some splain to do.

[BeyondGeography]

15. I also heard Obama's people say there was a 16-point swing in the women's vote

from yesterday to today. I don't buy the racism angle; sounds like there was a major stand-up-for-Hilly moment with females.

More to learn here.

[SaveElmer]

22. I think that is definitely part of it...

Perhaps in the last couple days she reminded people why they liked her in the first place...

[BeyondGeography]

25. And/or they realized she was toast if she got rolled in NH

so they stood with her. Obama won the female vote 35-30 in Iowa and lost it 47-30 in New Hampshire. That kind of variance suggests some special things happened in NH, and we certainly saw some of that yesterday.

[RoadRage]

16. And maybe Obama fans were over confident??

As an Obama fan.. i'll admit, at 3pm today, I was feeling pretty good. Ya have to wonder.. with lines wrapped around the block.. and Obama supposing to have a 7% - 15% lead.. who got back in their warm car.. drove home, and thought.. eh, he'll win.. no need to shiver?

Just a theory.. just a theory!

[IndianaJones]

21. Bradley/Wilder effect? nt.

[CoffeeCat]

23. I thought Bill Clinton's exasperation today...

...indicated that their own internals weren't looking so well.

If your internal polls are up, you are relaxed and confident.

Bill seemed to be going into the ditch.

I'm concerned about this. I'm concerned about dirty tricks from the Clintons. I'll be honest.
I've always wondered why the power Dems didn't push for election reform. I assumed that at least
some of them would benefit from cheating, at some point.

However, in this situation---I feel as if a couple of things affected NH voters. I think they're
fiercely independent, and they will sometimes use their votes to show that THEY DECIDE. I think
Obama fever hit its pitch in NH, and by the time voting came around--many switched to Clinton. I
do think that her teary moment probably led people to think..."You know she's got a bad rap and maybe
she's not all that bad." I think some of those people went for her.

I don't know. It's just really hard to reconcile all of this. A CNN story had 300 people at one of her
events. The Obama rally had 2,000, and a line out into the street.

It's puzzling.

In all honesty though, I think both camps are in shock at this point. Different kinds of shock, but shock
nonetheless.

[K Gardner]

27. Thank you. I don't feel so creepy now that I know somebody else feels the same.