*Sigh* Why Does the Media Generalize the "Women" Vote So Badly?

[Barack_America]

A woman in the Northeast is *not* the same as a woman in the Midwest. They have different interests and different concerns. So why then is the MSM insisting that with NH, Hillary now has the female vote back? That a woman in Iowa = a woman in NH?

They don't do this to men. Men are broken down in to race, income, education, geography. But women, why shucks no, we aren't multifaceted. Of course we all vote the same.

*sigh*

[Withywindle]

1. No shit!

Newsflash: all women are individuals. That's the ONLY generalization you can make about "all women."

[catzies]

2. Because they don't want to. They want us in the little box they put us in.

Less actual thinking involved that way.

[Anouka]

3. We put ourselves in that box.

Only we can remove ourselves.

[laconicsax]

4. Institutionalized sexism?

If women were treated like individuals, then more people would start to realize that women are people (and the majority of people) and it would be increasingly harder for the powers that be (read: patriarchy) to marginalize women.

[Chovexani]

5. Because the media is full of sexist assholes

And so is DU.

[Barack_America]

10. Yeah, I'm really seeing that on DU tonight. How disappointing. n/t

[MadMaddie]

6. No women Media owners...Plain and simple!

Institutionalized sexism..

[annabanana]

28. **ding...***ding!

Not such a hard question, now was it?

[bobbolink]

7. On the one hand, I agree with you completely. On the other hand, I've heard waaaay

too many women say they're voting for her because they want a woman in the White House.

That's just sad.......... :( :( :( :(

[Barack_America]

8. She's actually not my top choice.

Not all women feel that way. Particularly women from the midwest, of which I am one.

But I would love a woman President, I won't lie about that.

[bobbolink]

9. Of course we'd love to have a woman president! Or a man of another "race" (if there is such a

thing as "race").

It's highly possible that I've been wanting a woman in the Oval for longer than you have.... I've been at this a very long time.

I was very fortunate in Colorado to be a constituent of one of the early female Representatives... Pat Schroeder! Some years she was the only one I was voting FOR (as opposed to the lesser of two weavils), and one year was so bleak that as I was pulling the lever to vote for her, I let out a very loud "Yea, PAT!"!

BUT.... Pat was speaking for me. Pat had the highest intentions for this country.

Pat would swim against the tide to keep the country from being handed to the corporations!

IN short, it didn't matter what her gender or race, or anything else... she was my ideal Representative. As I said, I was very fortunate.

And that's what it comes down to..... There are many quality women who would be GREAT in the Oval..... but to forget that "quality" part, and just want a woman, any woman... well, that's just sexist.

[Barack_America]

12. That's exactly how I feel...WOMAN, YES!...Just not this one.

By the way, I remember Pat Schroeder. Not well, as I'm realatively young, but I do remember her.

If only Carl Levin were a woman, now THAT would be my choice for female President! Or President at all, but he would never run... :-(

[Auntie Bush]

29. If you want a woman...it better be this one or you won't see one in your lifetime.

Unless you are pretty young. There's no one even in the pipeline unless it's Boxer or Pelosi and I doubt that. There are no possible governors unless we change the law so Arnold can run. Now there's a possibility...rethugs will do anything...even change the constitution.

[LeFleur1]

13. Not Really

It's not really all that sad if she's the best on the campaign trail. And I think she just might be.

[bobbolink]

15. "best on the campaign trail"

What I want is the best president to be in the Oval office!

That takes a hell of a lot more than knowing how to get corporate $$$!!

[EffieBlack]

11. Don't feel bad - they do the same thing with "the black vote" nt

[midlife_mo_Jo]

14. Why do so many women here try to convince us we should vote for Hillary

because it's time for a woman president?

I suppose members of the media realize there are women out there who are like them, but they are way overgeneralizing, I agree.

[bobbolink]

16. Just remind them how great it is to have the first woman Secretary of State.

:evilgrin:

[K Gardner]

17. I'm personally insulted to be grouped into the same "demographic" that voted out of pity and to

"get back at" somebody for a perceived slight on another woman.

That is vapid and shallow and a dangerous trend.

[lumberjack_jeff]

18. But apparently a woman in NH is dramatically different than a man in NH

Percentage of men who voted for Clinton: 29%
Percentage of men who voted for Obama: 40%

Percentage of women who voted for Clinton: 46%
Percentage of women who voted for Obama: 34%

[bunnies]

19. sympathy does strange things to people.

Ive been talking to people all day and many of them switched to her last minute due to feeling bad for her after the incident.

[Barack_America]

21. So their decision was HOPE vs. PITY and they went with pity?

How embarrassing that's how we select our leaders nowdays *shudder*

Was this nation always this stupid?

[Marrah_G]

20. I actually heard a talk show host say men need to sit down with their women .......

and explain politics with them so they will "vote correctly".

I swear to god... I had to change the station before I vomited.

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. Who said that?!? Were they rebroadcasting from 1930???

[Marrah_G]

24. Not sure who it was... I will try and find it

I was appalled. If the man had been in front of me I would smack the living shit out him.

It was this afternoon and I am in Boston, it was AM radio.

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. Jay Severin, maybe? Or is he FM only?

[Marrah_G]

31. He's FM on WTKK

This was on AM radio- I only caught a few minutes of it while I was surfing.

This last week has really shown the underlying sexism in America- even here on DU. Still, it many women have it far worse then we do, so I try to keep some perspective.

[Auntie Bush]

23. That's because we're just simple women who don't think and vote the same as our husbands.

They have another thought coming. Who would have ever thought womens suffrage would end like this about a century later. Not me! lol I wasn't there!

edited typo...as usual!

[Marrah_G]

25. Some talk show guy said that today and suggested that husband need to educate thier wives

[Barack_America]

27. That's not surprising. A lot of Fundie women feel it is their duty to vote...

...as their husbands instruct them. They're conflicted that voting gives them too much power and this is the compromise they've come up with. It's really quite common.

I follow a few fundie blogs in an attempt to understand where the hell they're coming from. It's probably needless to say, but so far it has been an utter failure.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. It's draw conclusions time:

On January 3rd in Iowa, women and men voted similarly, 35% of women voted for Obama, 30% of women voted for Hillary.

On January 8th in NH (if exit polls are to be believed) women were more than 50% more likely to vote for Hillary than men were.

What happened in between?

:cry:

[K Gardner]

32. LOL !

[Barack_America]

33. The primary moved from the Midwest to the Northeast.

I don't deny that the "incident" helped Hillary with NH women. But, in general, I think that Northeastern women are going to be more receptive to Hillary than Iowa women. Crying likely wouldn't have worked in Iowa.

[lumberjack_jeff]

34. I don't think the "incident" is a basis for a trend.

It's a pretty shaky foundation upon which to build a comeback.

[Barack_America]

35. She can't do it again.

That was a one-shot deal. If she makes a habit of it she'll become "that overly emotional, unstable female candidate". And she knows it.

She's not going to get the support of midwestern women. She just won't. The midwest is likely going to be a bloodbath for her.

[Uncle Joe]

36. Because they want a corporate loving President, so they play the gender card.

They want women to rally around Hillary Clinton. That's why they synchronized their reporting the other night simultaneously on all networks during the evening news about her emotional moment, while ignoring Edwards emotional moment during the debate, when he cited his cause as being personal, not just academic, and that being the basis for his courage in fighting corrupt corporation's hold on our dysfunctional government, furthermore that's why they portrayed Edwards and Obama as ganging up on her during the debate.

From what I understand her largest block of voting in New Hampshire came from women over 65 and I would be willing to bet the older generation of both genders rely on the corporate media the most for their information and are the least likely to be Internet savvy and thus become more prone for corporate media manipulation.

After decades of studying human psychology and marketing the corporate media, have become experts at ringing which ever bell they need to in order to make any given Pavlov's dog's mouth slobber.

In conclusion, any candidate that pledges to take on corporate corruption and return government to the people will have an uphill fight getting their message out to the American People by the corporate media, without being caricatured.