Are you looking forward to a Kerry loss in November?

[WilliamPitt]

Provided he becomes the nominee, of course, are you hoping for an opportunity to sling your schedenfreude?

[trogdor]

1. Why else are we here?

I am a baloney sandwich Democrat. Substitute Oscar Mayer on Wonder bread for the proverbial yellow dog.

[corporatewhore]

2. I hope he dont win in july

[WilliamPitt]

3. Fair enough

Doubly so.

[ShaneGR]

23. Eh?

You hope Kerry loses?

[arewethereyet]

104. here here !

Go Edwards !

[Zomby Woof]

4. we had people agreeing with Bush about Kerry this AM

That is about as low as this forum has ever gone. They are slinging something, but it is more akin to what chimps sling at the zoo than it is brilliant German vernacular. ;-)

[XanaDUer]

6. Wasn't that amazing?!

How fucking pathetic can you get?

:puke:

[WilliamPitt]

8. I missed this

What happened?

[XanaDUer]

10. Check your PM.

Eom.

[GalleryGod]

68. Punks & Assholes Who Hide in Cyber Land! I Bet that I Can

have 'em on the ground peeing their dockers in 3 friggin' moves!:spank:

[redqueen]

72. Ah, yes. Violence.

Thanks for providing that. It's not common enough on left wing boards, is it?

Thank goodness you're here to ensure that's corrected.

/sarcasm

[Forkboy]

85. er,wouldn't you be in cyber land as well?

everyone is brave behind the keyboard :eyes:

[Guaranteed]

28. Bush agrees with us, not the other way around.

Haven't you been listening to us for the past three or four months?

[edzontar]

38. Right. Bush said that Kerry is a waffler. Hard to dipsute that.

He is exploiting an obvious weakness, just as so many of our dear friends warned that Rove and co. would so if we nominated Dean, etc.

The fact that Bush has zeroed in on a weakness that some of us were worried about some time ago does make the pople who raised the issue Bush supporters.

This is spohistic McCarthyism of the lowest order--and representative of the pathetic rhetroci coming from the self-appointed "Kerry or the highway" purge-supporters here.

These sentiments are unworthy of a supposedly progressive board.

[Crewleader]

5. Hi William you're not insane, just a crazy kinda guy we love!

Democrat All The Way! Go Kerry!

Bye Bye Bush! :hi:

Hello Zomby_Woof...:pals:

[Zomby Woof]

7. Hey Crew!!!

:hug: Your presence here is so very, very welcome, as always.

[jonnyblitz]

9. no!

geez :wow:

[MurikanDemocrat]

11. Not surprising. Another telling poll would be for those who would like

to see Kerry lose in November, what candidate do/did you support. But I doubt you'd get honest answers.

[WilliamPitt]

12. Kick

[legin]

13. It's a bit difficult to put my finger on it

But there is a an element of 'Have you stopped beating your wife yet" about this thread title. It's a subtle one. Probably I should just shut up before I drop myself in hot water.

:evilgrin:

[legin]

16. It's front loaded with all the bits I want

(Sorry Will Pitt ;-) )

I'm already salivating and the 'in November' just doesn't register with me.

They may be a rhetorical technique here.

[legin]

20. If you were to pose the question

"In November do you want Bush to beat Kerry" you might get a different result for the poll.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. Yes. I am committed to perpetual minority status

Being born a middle class white person, I have not had the opportunity to experience the joys of oppression. I therefore feel a deep need to relegate myself to minority status. By railing against the system SO much i can feel as though everyone is victimizing me and I feel a deep need to experience people being out to get me. John Kerry fulfills that need. He is just as bad as Bush who is really out to get me so if Kerry loses, I win.

Sign me,
Forever marginalized

*disclaimer...the previous message was not intended to imitate anyone in this forum but if the shoe fits*

[Syrinx]

17. Now that's a good one!

I love it!

[MurikanDemocrat]

25. Be honest

You are just sore because your candidate isn't going to be the nominee. You only hate Kerry because he took his place on his throne.

[shivaji]

15. What? Mr. Electable lose in november? no senor..never happen

[Adjoran]

18. No way

I think it is perfectly legitmate to wonder out loud if he is the best choice for nominee, though.

Kerry vs Bush is a clear choice for me. I just wonder how he will appeal to the independents we need to win. This election will be an uphill climb for us, being outspent against an incumbent, unless the economy takes an unexpected downturn. The nominee must not only fire up the base, but also reach out to the general electorate.

I know some people here are mad at him for some of the campaign, or for his IWR vote, or his background. I'm not. I'm only concerned about winning in November, but I'll support the nominee despite any misgivings.

[AntiCoup2K4]

19. Looking forward to it, no. Fully expecting it, yes.

Kerry will lose. Unless Teresa bought Diebold. He's got nothing to debate against Junior.

[Protagoras]

22. amazing...

Nothing? Do you mean that he and Bush are = ?

Or are you just fully convinced that Democracy has now been stolen utterly and completely by Diebold in which case why bother voting now? Why bother even trying...sounds like TPTB are overwhelming and we have no change whatsoever...so might as well sellout ourselves or turtle.

[WilliamPitt]

27. Democracy has now been stolen utterly and completely by

the fact that Dean is not the nominee.

*insert bitter tears here*

[arwalden]

35. *Insert Hankie Here*

[sangha]

77. I have it on good authority that Dean won

Some Dean supporters told Dean won because he has changed the party so much (that it's now set to nominate a Dem that voted for NAFTA/WTO/IWR/PATRIOT/NCLB

The more things change, the more they stay the same. :-)

[mrgorth]

81. This is so unbelievably small of you Will.

[Mairead]

51. "He's got nothing to debate against Junior"

Kucinich made that same point yesterday at UMass. He playacted a Kerry/Bush 'debate' in which Bush enumerated all the times Kerry had voted with the GOP and each time thanked Kerry for his 'leadership'.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

65. that would have been fun to watch!

I hate to say this, but Kerrys electablity is pretty weak to me.

When it comes to postiions Edwards is close to Kerry, but has a hell of a lot more charisma.

[Protagoras]

75. A stale tuna sandwich

is looking pretty good compared to Bush these days.

I suppose I'll just keep operating under the assumption that defeating Bush is humanly possible and that replacing him will result in some net gains for me, my party, and my country.

I'll try and keep in mind that this is politics and the search for a presidential replacement for the Chimp...and not a religious quest for the next Messiah.

[Uzybone]

80. Charisma is in the eye of the beholder

votes however are not so subjective. Kerrys got the votes. As for all this Edwards charisma, sorry I just dont see it.

[Atlant]

86. Tie color. It can be "Battle of the Power Ties: First Blood!" (NT)

[Evil_Dewers]

98. Kerry will lose. Unless Teresa bought Diebold. He's got nothing to debate

Bush fell down on the job on 9/11.



Bush is the worst president on jobs since Herbert Hoover (Great Depression). 3 million people are jobless--2.7 million jobs have permanently gone to China, Mexico and India.

The House Joint Resolution did not declare war against Iraq. The decision to invade Iraq was Bush's. Bush could have chose to do nothing about Iraq--the House Joint Resolution be damned. Bush sent 550 Americans to die in Iraq over some phantom WMDs (Even his selling point was a goddamned lie).

Bush has will have added over $1 trillion to the national debt, and is running a record $550 billion deficit. The nation's debt reaches new records every second that goes by. But Bush would rather borrow $150 billion from American taxpayers and spend in Iraq to build the infrastruction of Iraq that his actions destroyed.

[Wonk]

21. I didn't vote, because neither option fits how I feel about it. nt

[tameszu]

24. I can't believe that

the ratio is less than 7:1 on Democratic Underground. That's awful. Some Dem/progressive solidarity...

[Vernunft II]

26. It´s "Schadenfreude"...

And the only thing I´m looking forward to is President Kuchinich.

I´ll vote for Kerry because he´ll be better than Bush but he´s not that much better to be my dream candidate.

[jsw_81]

29. No way

A Bush victory would be an absolute nightmare for this country. Reagan and the first Bush were bad enough, but they never had GOP majorities in both chambers and never had the kind of power that Bush currently has. And they never had the opportunity to reshape the judiciary for decades to come; Bush does.

Anyone who's seriously thinking about staying home on election day because they're pissed about the defeat of Dean/Kucinich/Edwards/Nader/whoever is a coward.

[Citizen Kang]

103. Yeah, thats the way to get 'em to vote for Kerry...

instead of trying to get those people who have been turned off by the coronation to vote for your guy, just call them cowards!!! That'll make them turn out on election day.

Sheesh.

[BL_Zebub]

111. Depends on your definition of coward.

Mine would be someone who has spent the last three years either voting for things he knew damn well were wrong, or else skipped out on the votes altogether.

[Andromeda]

30. I'm looking for a Bush loss in November...

If the nominee has a (D) in front of his name he's got my vote.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

31. If he is the nominee, it will be an uninspiring election day...

but I would like to see him win. Although, the primaries and convention are not over so I am still voting Kucinich and urging others to do the same. :)

TWL

[RogueTrooper]

32. Kerry can do the business

he was not my horse but facts are facts.

[REP]

33. Moldy-Container-in-The-Back-of-My-Fridge Over Bush Voter

I'm not wild about Kerry, but I don't hate him, and if he's the nominee I won't mind voting for him. Hell, I'd even vote for He Who Shall Not Be Named if it came down to it rather than face another four years of Asswipe*.

[quaker bill]

34. No

But expecting a catastrophe is different than rejoicing in it.

[Protagoras]

113. Indeed it is

And I'm pretty amazed at what often sounds like Glee by some people over the thought of a Kerry loss in the GE. I can't believe...really I can't...that someone would actually be happy for the democrat to lose just so they could jump around for a week saying I told you so.

Not liking the frontrunner isn't a problem. Being disappointed that your pick didn't make it isn't a problem...heck Clinton wasn't my first choice back in 1992...but hoping he'd lose in the GE because my first choice didn't make it was then and is now beyond me.

It's like a 3 year old on the playground deciding that because his toy is broke he must run around and break everyone elses toy as well.

[molly]

36. This sums it up very well...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=396161&mesg_id=396457

My favorite is....

" I am unable to overcome my Inner Conservative, aka Teenage Ideologue Moronic Brat"

[fishnfla]

59. Oh my god, what a ripper!

Thanks for that link.

[VOX]

37. Kerry was never my pick, but I will warm up to him...

Hell, I'll work for him this summer and fall. And if I could punch my ballot more than once for Kerry come November 2, I would.

Hmmmm... :evilgrin:

[Hav]

39. duh

I think 20+ people are on the wrong board, who would have thought...

[LWolf]

40. No.

I'm looking forward to a Kucinich win in November.

[LizW]

41. Sometimes

the unintentional irony here just leaves me rather speechless.

:eyes:

[CWebster]

42. Face it--Kerry is little more than an alternative to Bush

not an improvement for the party--or by extension, the country. What a lost golden opportunity, if only for a brief shining moment, but they won. What were we thinking that we could actually challenge the stranglehold on power? Now everyone line up and demonize the truth-tellers at the expense of the truth and learn to accept compromised progressive candidates who present issues as some remote possibility rather that really never take a risk. We learned what happens to them.

Oh yeah, I am rejoicing.

[doc03]

43. I hope Kerry is not on the ballot

I think if Kerry is our nominee he will loose, but I will vote for him if that's the choice we have ABB.

[GalleryGod]

69. Surely,Sir, You meant "Lose"?

"D-" no make-up exams either:puke:

[doc03]

73. I was taught by a NEA terrorist

[buddhamama]

44. nope

that would be insane.
if Kerry gets the nominee then he'll get my vote.
of course i'd want him to win.

i can only slightly imagine what another four yrs of Bush* would like but i think catastrophic aptly applies.

[Mairead]

45. Not "looking forward" in the sense of gleefully so, but anticipating it?

Yes, I suspect that if Kerry gets the nom, Bush will get the election.

Because there is no reason for people to vote strongly for so little difference, the result will be close enough that the GOP disenfranchisers we saw in 2000, augmented by gimmickable technology, will do the job and hand BushCo a win he can claim as real.

[MaineDem]

46. 25 (so far) want him to lose?

Why the hell are they even posting here?

It's funny actually.

I want the Democratic Party to win in November. I'm looking forward to DU once the non-productive BS isn't allowed. Then we can concentrate on uniting against the "uniter" currently sitting in the White House.

[molly]

48. Pathetic isn't it?

I think they must be extremely immature and selfish people that put their own controlling egos above the good of the country.

[NoPasaran]

47. I'm not looking forward to it at all

[THUNDER HANDS]

49. The only Massachusettes loser I'm looking forward to watching

Is Pedro Martinez.

:D

[GalleryGod]

70. And that Friggin' Traitor, Schilling!

Judas Escariot!:evilgrin:

[NNN0LHI]

50. Easy explanation. About 15% of DUers make 200 grand or more

Think about it. Greed will do funny things to people. I have seen it before.

Don

[molly]

52. HUH?

[NNN0LHI]

53. I didn't stutter n/t

[molly]

54. What's 200 grand got to do with anything?

[NNN0LHI]

56. With Kerry the tax cuts for those making over 200 grand go bye, bye

Bush wants to make those tax cuts permanent. It is simple mathematics.

Don

[molly]

57. To be honest, I don't think the wealthy DU people are

the problem. Most are very compassionate and want the best for ALL. I think the 27 disgruntled have hidden agendas. If you read some of the posts, some of these are the same people causing the same problems long before the primary. I often wonder WHY they are permitted to remain on a DEMOCRATIC board?

[NNN0LHI]

60. What I said was conjecture molly. I should have been more clear

I have no way of proving my suggestion. It was just that. A suggestion. Take it with a grain of salt. And my apologies for hijacking this thread to the originator of this thread.

Don

[fishnfla]

62. You're damned wrong!

And I can prove it;), I'm looking forward to a Kerry win. My country is more important than money.

[maddezmom]

83. I take everything here with a grain of salt

but I think the broad brush statement against those that make over $200,000 couldn't be any less accurate. ;)

[RetroLounge]

105. Yes, lets have a purge.

You pick who goes.

I'm sure that will be fair...

[NicRic]

55. anybody except bush !

I would rather have anyone as our President after the 2004 election then bush .The idea of making this illegitamite pResident legitamite , makes my stomach turn .He has never shown any amount of being humbled by his good fortune , and instead acts like he deserves evrything thats handed to him .Lets see how he handles defeat and send him on a permanant vacation in Crawford !
Very Sincerely NicRic

[Armstead]

58. This is foolishness

Everyone here wants to see Bush retired to his ranch, ASAP.

But there are also a lot of us who don't see that as the only goal.

You worked for DK, Will, you know what this is really about. So why do you contribute to the mindset that discoutrages actual political debate?

Bush is merely a symptom of the worst of a series of processes that the Democratic Party has also been a part of for many years. Too many of the Democrats in power have eitehr been AWOL or have become Republican Lite,

As a result, a victory in which the Democrats win by perpetuating the agenda that got us to this sorry point will also be a hollow one.

Wanting a change in the Democratic status quo is a perfectly valid goal, and does not have to be contrary to the goal of booting Bush. And believing we should be doing a lot more than being a cloudy mirror image of Bush is not the same as hoping for a Bush victory at all.

[NNN0LHI]

61. There is no difference between the two parties. Right? n/t

[Armstead]

63. You're putting words in my mouth

This is one of the standard "shut up and sit down" lines.

Sure there are differences. But on the really key issue of wealth and power, the influential faction of Democrats who ultimately set the tone and agenda have too much in common with the Republicans.

They see the world through the Corporate Filter, and thus promote the same disasterous policies like "free trade" and enabling the mergers that have created huge corporate behomoths that now dominate most sectors of the economy and social and political policy.

It's not a matter of "leftist purity." It's simply a matter of whether you want to enable that to continue.

[NNN0LHI]

64. So what do you suggest then? I am open minded. Lets hear it

What exactly is the way to end the business as usual that I admit we have in every presidential election? And to be honest, I am with you on this. I would like to see major changes myself. I just don't have a workable plan to accomplish it.

Don

[Armstead]

67. I think the campaign should focus on the Big Picture

By the Big Picture I don't mean merely the damage that Bush has done and would do if re-elected. The core problems we face today are a bi-partisan creation, and the solution is not merely the partisan one of booting Bush.

We need to be populist and progresive and bold. That (in my opinion of course) is both the roight thing to do, and would also be a way to provide a clear and positive alternative to Bush and the GOP that could well be a winning message politically.

The messages of Dean, Kucinich and Sharpton (and to an extent Braun and Clark) is the ype of thing that would resonate with both the "Democratic base" and with many in the mainstream center, if it had the support of the party leadership. Imagine someone with the gravitas and clout of Kerry carrying a truly populist progressive message with clarity and conviction and without waffling or backstepping.

(I'm not just talking about "liberal" issues, but core populist ones. The real problems we face are much bigger.)

For example, while the campaigns have gone on, there have been numerouis examples of the kind of merger and buy outs we should have stood against for years. Health insurance companies are merging, banks are being taken over, media is becoming even more consolidated.

Those kind of situations should be brought up, and challenged.

Also we should health insutance in a larger framework. It's not enough to tinker. We need to set as a goal a sweeping reform of health care.

Obviously Democrats have to also provide specific policies and altrnative to address these things. But let's set the clear goal of guaranteed, affordable healthcatre for everyone as the goal. That means having the government tale an active role that is not attempting to placate the large insurers.

[NNN0LHI]

74. Really all nice goals and I agree with most of them. But what do we do now?

Are you suggesting that by voting against the Democratic nominee in November we all accomplish all of those worthy goals? I am not trying to put words in your mouth but what are you suggesting we should do come voting day in November?

Don

[Armstead]

90. Start talking about it

Don,
I originally wrote a longer post, but it vanished into cyberspace. So I'll be briefer this time, as U am short on time.

I believe if the mainstream Democratic Party and nominee had more of the positions of Kucinich, Dean and Sharpton and the spirit of Wellstoine and the progressive House Democrats, that would be a great start.

By that, I mean acknowledging the mess we are in today, and how that relates to the concerns of average Americans. For one example, steal the flap over Janet Jackson's Boob from the conservative "family values" crowd and point to it as an example of how Media Consolidation has led to the problem. (It's not that it was raunchy -- it was a matter of corporate "synergy" and lack of judgement and responsibility by Viacom in allowing it to happen in the Super Bowl.)

One guy who I believe has a great message in thois regard is Rep. Bernie Sanders. Despite his reputation as a hard-core "leftie" he actually is a master pragmatic "realpolitik" without giving up principles. He gives progressive issues in a way that relates to "kitchen table" concerns of average Americans.

When you get a few minutes check out his website and explore it. In my opnion if that basic message were delivered by respected Democrats backed by the party, it would be a winning message that both appeals to the "base" and also resonate with many of the "swing moderates" in the election.

http://bernie.house.gov/

[Thrill]

66. Why do we visit this

board if we want him to lose? Be realistic. I would vote for an animal instead of Bush

[redqueen]

71. Be serious.

I doubt anyone here hopes that Kerry will lose due to a desire for a little schadenfreude.

What I do think is that some people perceive that Kerry will allow "Iraqization" to proceed, which will result in more deaths and more of a drain on our treasury. I also think that some think that if a war is going to drag on into a massive failure, they would prefer that a Republican be at the help of that fiasco.


on edit: Just so I don't get flamed I'll point out that since I live in Texas, I plan to vote for a third-party candidate. IF the nominee somehow makes inroads here, and the vote is close, I'll vote for them. But that happening is very unlikely.

[Meshuga]

76. I can't believe that

so many people (33% is a pretty big rate) hopes that Kerry will lose in November if he is the nominee. That's insane!

[GumboYaYa]

79. 33 votes from a group of die-hard dems who have recently

been actively involved in supporting other candidates is nothing to cause alarm. In reality it is an extraordinarily low number of people and they do not reprsent the vast number of Democrats.

[Hippo_Tron]

101. Not to mention the lurking freepers...

Which probably account for about 20 or so of those votes.

[GumboYaYa]

78. Absolutely.....

Four more years of Bush and we may get to invade Syria, Iraq and North Korea. Imagine the fun watching those big bombs on TV again. I mean get real, who here cares about the thousands and thousands of innocent lives that are lost in these war games.

I really don't need social security so why not make the tax cuts permanent. We all know that this is the best way to grow the economy and provide economic justice for all.

Alternative energy, scmalternative energy....I trust the oil companies to do what is best for me..........

* * * * * * * * *

Okay, so when can we stop asking these types of questions and just start working to win back the White House AND Congress? We may have disagreed on candidates in the primary, but I'm not gonna let a few malcontents on a interenet message board distract me from the fact that change can only really begin when we control the White House and both houses of Congress.

[Forkboy]

82. I'm more looking forward to an end of stupid threads

[buddhamama]

96. do me a favor

don't hold your breath :D

[AmyStrange]

84. I don't want him to lose...

but unless he picks Edwards as his running mate, he will lose - in my opinion,

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[robbedvoter]

87. Clark democrat is not Democrat all the way (ex: I won't look down

my nose at the independents GOP-ers voting with us and ask them if their Dem papers are in order, nor will I kiss Bushco ass)
But yeah, I want kerry to beat Bush - just because people were sheep and passed the best candidate possible, it doesn't mean they deserve Bush.

[FreeSpeechCrusader]

88. Right on Robbed

I will welcome all that wish to dispose of the moronic Pres. that we currently reside under. I will not question their motives or loyalty. I will only ask that they help get our nation back on track, and the first step to doing that is to get the monkey out of the White House.

[mzmolly]

89. Looking forward to a Bush loss.... Not convinced the D will be Kerry

just yet.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

91. A lose/lose situation and poll.

I hope that Kerry wins, just to see the back of the dipshit-in-chief. However, I won't be voting for Kerry because he represents what is wrong with the DLCratic party which has been reduced to the moderate wing of what is a one-party system of government.

If he wins, the "moderates" will bray that he did so because he was not "too liberal". If he loses they will whine that it was because he was "too liberal". Of course, they will attack the left because we didn't enthusiastically swallow their latest production of warmed over pablum.

Tweedle-dummy vs Tweedle-DLC.

[KamaAina]

92. I'll vote for Half-Eaten Bologna Sandwich (D) if I have to!

even if it has mustard on it!!

Now there's a candidate who isn't really that much different from Bush*:

* Both are "white bread"

* Both, obviously, are full of "baloney"

* Both owe their existence to major corporations (Enron and Halliburton in one instance, Wonder Bread and Oscar Mayer in the other)

* Both are anathema throughout the Middle East (the sandwich because of its pork content, Bush* because he's a murdering imperialist warmonger)

But at the end of the day, I'll have to go with the sandwich, because it simply has a clearer grasp of what's going on in the world. :evilgrin:

[edzontar]

I voted yes, but only because this is a stupid question.

And if the Kerry Kamp keeps coming up with threads like this, and Kerry actually GETS the nomination (which DOES NOT yet--isn't Kuncich still in the race, Will?) you may even convince to ACTUALLY want him to lose....just out of spite.

[Walt Starr]

108. Wow, I voted the same way for the same reason

:shrug:

When I see thinly veiled loyalty oath threads with polls, I always vote the way you aren';t supposed to vote if you are vowing your undying loyalty to the annointed one.

[indigo32]

93. Well this ought to unite us

rah rah rah!

[nolabels]

94. Yea, I am looking forward to a Kerry loss in November

But I think that it takes place in January at the inauguration.

Massachusetts will just have to find a new senator

[GalleryGod]

95. Look at the Body Count in this thread?

:evilgrin: GFY

[Demobrat]

97. Well, it will be small consolation

for 4 more years of W, but consolation it will be.

[Tom Rinaldo]

99. I would vote for Kerry over a Yellow Dog

Heck, I would GLADLY vote fof Kerry over a yellow dog. And of course I would enthusiastically vote for a Yellow Dog over Bush.

[WilliamPitt]

100. kick

[elsiesummers]

102. None of the Above. Looking forward to an Edwards Win in November!:) n/t

[RetroLounge]

106. I voted yes. as did 57 others.

I voted yes. as did 57 others.

Maybe we just want to spite little people who like to pile on.

Maybe we enjoy voting in false-choice polls.

Maybe we just like to sit back and laugh as the usual klatch gets together and foams at the mouth.

Maybe we just like to see people freak out over an inconsequential poll on an internet site, and then make sweeping generalizations about a group of supporters.

Maybe we just don't give a flying rats ass what you think.

so I made this poll...

[edzontar]

109. I know that I like to watch them squeal and freak out

They just love being victims, don't they?

[nomatrix]

107. Are you having a bad day?

What's with this poll, Will. I thought you were behind Kerry, at least at one time. I don't look forward to anyone losing from the Dem. side.

No matter who the candidate is from this side, Diebold will make the selection. Why else would Bush be making really bad decisions that piss off everyone in an election year?
No one can convince me otherwise, that he knows this will be delivered, again. Placing Judges, changing the constitution, ground zero Rep. Party, not extending unemployment, robbing social security, illegal immigration, outsourcing, on and on.
No, this is not a man who has the least consideration for gathering votes.

[Armand]

110. Only Freepers would've wanted Kerry to lose in November.

[Dover]

112. Are you looking forward to a Kucinich loss ?

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