Edwards - the 2nd black president?

[Doctor_J]

WJC was the first, and it seems to me that JRE has rapport with the AA community, maybe for the same reasons - working class, raised in the South. Barkley said in '96 he'd never vote Dem, now he's endorsing Edwards - another Southerner who grew up poor.

Will Kerry be able to nail down that Dem demographic, and fire them up to get to the polls in November?

[King of New Orleans]

1. Kerry's done much better among A-A voters than Edwards (except SC)

Why would you think Edwards has a special rapport?

[Doctor_J]

2. I guess he reminds me

alot of Big Dog, and the NBA'ers are not a particularly political (or liberal) group, and they're on the bandwagon, and he grew up in NC, and lots of little things like that. Just a hunch...

[KoKo]

3. Do you live in NC? If you do......you can't be serious!!!! ROFLMAO!

Not trashing you for this post, if you sincerely think that Edwards could be compared to Clinton in his relationship with African-Americans, but Geeze, I have experience with him.

He's no 2nd Clinton! OMG...he's a total opportunist. From his "humble" origines in SC to NC trial layer who made millions off a few malpractice lawsuits? Then he ran for Senator but spent his whole term ignoring the "little folks" who gave money and time to getting him elected and immediately began his run for the Presidency?

:shrug: :eyes: :crazy:

[Doctor_J]

6. No, I live in IL,

and I'm abouit as white as they come. But it just came to me WHY I think JRE has rapport with AA. I guess I think that in order to get elected to the Senate in NC as a Dem, he must have energized the black voters. Am I wrong on this point?

Trash away, this is just an observation from the Chicago suburbs.

[ShaneGR]

17. www.wade.org

And he turned down hundreds of cases every year, choosing to represent only the biggest corporations he could tackle. If you bothered to read about the cases he took, you'd find out he was representing some of the most disadvantaged (In terms of family backround and tragedy suffered) he could find. You people act like he was advertising in the damn phonebook, which is completely ridiculous. I'm so SICKENED by the behavior of some towards other Dem candidates that even I am thinking of saying F You to a lot of people in my own party.

Opportunist? F You.

[turnhardleft]

4. WJC was the first "Black President"?

Why no recent footage from him and his "office" in Harlem? Is he ever there?

[lancdem]

5. There was just an article about him in USA Today

The reporter interviewed him in Harlem. He does a lot of traveling, but he's in Harlem a couple days a month, I think. Sorry I don't have a link.

BTW, I'm glad to see Barkley is backing a Dem. :thumbsup:

[Doctor_J]

7. Dunno about his habits now

I assume he travels alot. But during his presidency he was referred to as the 1st black president.

[Catherine Vincent]

10. The man is busy and travels a lot. I doubt if he's there very often.

And when he is there, there wouldn't be photographers taking pics of him all the time....he's not the prez anymore, unfortunateley. Oh and it's usually repukes that ask that question of the big dog....just letting you know.

[Edwards4President]

26. He's not there very often

because he's out doing work on behalf of his foundation, such as visiting schools in inner cities around the country and fighting for better health care and ecomomic development in Africa.

I, for one, would rather he be doing those things than kicking his feet up on the credenza in a comfy office on 125th Street.

[DuctapeFatwa]

8. blackpeopleloveus.com

:evilgrin:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

19. props

that is a funny site

[fujiyama]

20. great site

I've been there before. Laughed my ass off!

[JI7]

9. John Kerry beat Edwards in minority votes

that's what helped keep his lead in wisconsin. and of course in virginia and tennessee kerry won there. if i find the article i will post it later.

[AP]

14. I don't think that's true. Every poll I've seen has shown Edwards

narrowly beating Kerry with African-Americans.

The only story in the news was that one in the LA Times, which is slightly deceitful. It said, accurately, that Edwards has been doing better among white voters than black voters in states where Edwards has beaten Kerry (SC, Oklahoma). What they failed to note is that in SC, for example, Edwards blew out Kerry with white voters (2:1) in SC, while beating Kerry narrowly among black voters.

I think the media has been trying to undermine Edwards's appeal among black voters because they're definitely a key constituency for November (Dems can't win without the black vote). For example, NPR did a story recently in which they interviewed a black woman about an Edwards event. Her comments were more or less positive. The reporter cuts away and says she wasn't going to vote for Edwards. Uh, why don't you let her tell us in her own words her level of support. There are other little tiny things like that.

[JVS]

11. There have been no black presidents.

And Edwards isn't black either.

[bornskeptic]

12. Edwards vs Kerry: Percentage of African-American vote

based on exit polls

South Carolina Edwards(37) Kerry(34)
Virginia Edwards(20) Kerry(61)
Tennessee Edwards(15) Kerry(47)
Oklahoma Edwards(20) Kerry(31)
Missouri Edwards(16) Kerry(53)
Wisconsin Edwards(15) Kerry(55)
Delaware Edwards(6) Kerry(44)

http://www8.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/AZ/index.html

Select state from pull-down list.

[shivaji]

15. Boy...you shut down this thread fast with facts LOL

[JI7]

16. heheh

the numbers for latinos are similar for kerry also. bill richardson said latinos went for kerry by huge amount.

[tryanhas]

23. Actually...

...no you didn't.

Numbers are not "FACTS."

They are just numbers, and they don't tell the entire story.

You have to look at the story "BEHIND THE NUMBERS" to understand what the real facts are, as I posted below.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

18. DU is about the only minority vote he is having a problem with

[tryanhas]

22. Actually, it's called...

...Democrats voting for the Democratic frontrunner, and nothing else.

Edwards has more appeal to black voters than Kerry does, and I can tell you that from first hand FACE TO FACE experience.

The problem and the reason why Kerry is killing Edwards among black voters in the primaries is not a matter of "CONNECTABILITY," it is a matter of Kerry winning elsewhere, and Democrats, WHICH 90% OF BLACKS ARE, just voting for Kerry because he is the democratic FRONTRUNNER.

Kerry's support is soft across the board.

Democrats are just voting for him because they think he can beat Bush.

Blacks are voting for him, because they think he can beat Bush.

He can't beat Bush, and all Edwards has to do is convince voters that he is the better GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE, which he is, and Kerry's support from blacks and whites will come crashing down.

[KittyWampus]

25. So You're Saying Black Dems Are Too Stupid To Make Informed Decisions?

Maybe the reason Edwards polls better towards the last few days before an election is because all the uninformed/uninvolved people finally turn on the television and see Edwards and think "he's better looking" and "I'd rather have a beer with him".

Maybe Edwards' support is GENERALLY based on the most shallow reasons for picking a POTUS.

Looks and Likeability

Oh, and we can also factor in Edwards getting Freeper votes in Open Elections.

[tryanhas]

30. Actually, it's called...

...Democrats voting for the Democratic frontrunner, and nothing else.

Edwards has more appeal to black voters than Kerry does, and I can tell you that from first hand FACE TO FACE experience.

The problem and the reason why Kerry is killing Edwards among black voters in the primaries is not a matter of "CONNECTABILITY," it is a matter of Kerry winning elsewhere, and Democrats, WHICH 90% OF BLACKS ARE, just voting for Kerry because he is the democratic FRONTRUNNER.

Kerry's support is soft across the board.

Democrats are just voting for him because they think he can beat Bush.

Blacks are voting for him, because they think he can beat Bush.

He can't beat Bush, and all Edwards has to do is convince voters that he is the better GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE, which he is, and Kerry's support from blacks and whites will come crashing down.

[adadem]

13. Our county's

Black Caucus endorsed Kerry.

[kerryistheanswer]

21. Charles Barkley endorsement?

You have to be kidding me. He's not tied to the AA community in one way - he's constantly voted Republican and has stayed removed from issues facing AA.

Where's Charles Barkley on affirmative action, the death penalty, public school education, and welfare?

On the wrong side. So I think its a stretch to consider John Edwards the next Bill Clinton - he just doesn't have the background.

[tryanhas]

24. I can tell you...

...blacks have more affinity for Charles Barkely and Michael Jordan than they do for Elijah Cummings or John Lewis. If Kevin Garnett or Michael Jordan went to Morhead University and spoke on behalf of Edwards, he would get a lot more votes than if that Jacques idiot from Hardball did.

The only thing that Kerry has is an aura of "INEVITABILITY," and that's why the CBC endorsed him, and it's why blacks are voting for him.

Blacks DON'T LIKE KERRY ANY MORE THAN THEY LIKE EDWARDS, they are just voting for Kerry because the media is convincing them to, by constantly saying that he can beat Bush, although he can't.

All Edwards has to do is convince Democrats that he is the better general election candidate, WHICH HE IS, and Kerry's support will come crashing down because they are only voting for him because "THEY THINK HE CAN BEAT BUSH."

If you take that MYTH away from him, he has nothing else going for him!

I can tell you FOR A FACT, blacks that see Edwards love him, and they connect with him more than they do with Kerry. Kerry's is purely "POLITICAL." They say he can beat Bush.

With Edwards, blacks get the same "GUT FEELING" that they got from Clinton, and that's that he is genuine in what he says, and they can trust him.

You all are going by numbers, and you don't know what the heck you are talking about in this case...

[Uzybone]

28. Which "blacks" do you speak for??

sorry but your entire post is full of tripe. Balcks will vote for who Jordan or Barkely tells them??? Thats ridiculous.

Blacks are voting for Kerry becasue we are the tools of the media??? Nice open thinking there.

Why do you think blacks are such idiots?

[tryanhas]

31. I don't need for you to tell me anything about blacks, alright!!!!

HUH!!!

Bottom freaking line, is I am telling you THE FACT THAT MICHAEL JORDAN AND CHARLES BARKELY HAVE MORE CLOUT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY than Elijah Cummings, or John Lewis, or the Congressional Black Caucus ever will!!!

You don't think so???

How about you throw two freaking campaign rallies in the same city and and invite Jordan to one and THE ENTIRE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS to the other and see which one gets the most blacks there...

...duh!

[Uzybone]

33. You know nothing about the black community

absolutely nothing. Would you say Britney Spears has more political clout in the white community? After all...


How about you throw two freaking campaign rallies in the same city and and invite Britney Spears to one and DENNIS HASTERT to the other and see which one gets the most whites there...

DUUUHHHH!!!

Im getting disgusted.

[Jai4WKC08]

27. What a crock

I sure wish you'd change your avatar if you're gonna make stupid racist statements like that.

[rhino47]

29. I saw Edwards in Youngstown Ohio

There was only perhaps 15 African Americans in the group.However
Edwards brought up race.He said that some people say there are only
certain audiences that race should be brought up in front of JE said thats wrong he feels race should be brought up everywhere and in front of everyone.I do feel that Edwards would have a wider appeal
to A.A. however probly more so if he`s seen in person.

[colonel odis]

32. thanks to kerry's supporters on here, he just lost my vote

if kerry's the nominee and edwards isn't on the ticket, screw him.

i don't need someone demanding that i vote for whoever the nominee is. (i would have anyway until about three minutes ago.) i don't need to be condescended to by a bunch of northeasterners who are only considered smart or sophisticated by themselves. i don't need to watch a kerry/gephardt ticket make mcgovern look like he almost had nixon back in '72.

the first time i ever voted was for jimmy carter in the 1976 primary. i've only voted for a republican once in my entire life. (and it was a race for governor.) but i sure as hell don't appreciate supporters of the most uninteresting candidate since perot's vp acting as though i'm supposed to be a good boy and vote the way they tell me to. i'll vote for roy moore before i do that.