Come to the Kerry Forum

[sandnsea]

You want to know what we're up against. Come on over and read all the posts from people who don't want social security, who don't want to repeal the tax cuts, who are tired of the rich being punished, who think even talking about gay marriage is a disaster. I actually got an email from a guy who said he isn't going to bother to campaign for Kerry at all because he's bound to lose because he won't support the ban on gay marriage amendment. I could go on and on and on about posts from people who are moderate Democrats. Then I come over here and have to listen to the people who are going to vote for Nader because of the exact opposite reasons. You think this is easy??? Say this, don't say this. If you want to know what the real world is thinking, please, please, come to the forum and just read.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. The world isn't any more real there than it is here

It's the internet where a grown man can pose as a 14 year old Thai girl if it pleases him and benefits some sick fucking game he wishes to play.

Get out and talk to people.

That's what I'm going to do.

[unfrigginreal]

2. You've described perfectly the folks that Kerry represents

there's plenty of them on this board too, so no need to see it there.

[sandnsea]

3. They're complaining

They want Kerry to be further to the right or they won't support him. Go read before you jump to conclusions.

[unfrigginreal]

5. The board is moderated so they're obviously welcome

right?

[cindyw]

15. Yes is moderated. We welcome people with all kinds of views.

Should we kick people off because they do not agree with Kerry? How boring would that be. Dissent gives Dems on Kerry's site the chance to make excellent arguments against republican comments.

[EXE619K]

4. No need to do that.

The same kind of messages are posted on all the campaign forums of all the candidates...it's not just John Kerry that's being targeted.

By the way, isn't the Kerry Blog heavily sensored by their moderators?

I'm not sure what it is like now, but, I remember posting a thread several months ago(semi-critical) about John Kerry's IWR decision and to find out that it got deleted.

[sandnsea]

8. Less censored then DU

That's for damn sure.

And no, all boards aren't the same.

Here's Edwards poverty plan blog. There is ONE post about people on poverty. The rest is general blog stuff.

http://blog.johnedwards2004.com/article.pl?newsid=&sid=04/02/25/1437251&mode=nested

Here's the crap we get on the Kerry forum.

http://forum.johnkerry.com//index.php?showtopic=5207
http://forum.johnkerry.com//index.php?showtopic=7429

And people around here say Kerry isn't far enough left.

[EXE619K]

11. Could it be because John Kerry is the obvious nominee at this point?

Every campaign's forums are prone to GOP/infiltrators.

For those at the Dean Blog can tell you, we were getting Anti-Dean threads just about every other thread in December and January.

Welcome to the Front-Runner status!

[sandnsea]

13. It's not anti-Kerry

That's not what I'm talking about. We've had the run of the mill anti-Kerry postings forever.

It's people who are real live Democrats. They just have this issue or that issue that they throw a hissy fit over. Kind of like around here. Just trying to get people to have a little perspective, that's all.

[Forkboy]

6. I thought I was already in it.

[AntiCoup2K4]

7. How do you know they aren't Freep infiltrators?

If they're advocating right wing positions, it's highly likely. Take a look at the "Kerry supports the Israeli wall" thread which started here this morning but was soon kicked down to the I/P dungeon.

The most blatantly sickening right wing pro-Sharon responses in that thread come from people wearing the Kerry tag. Whether they're truly Kerry supporters or Freeps trying to hurt your candidate, I can't say. Either way, it's sickening, and that's coming from someone who is admittedly not a fan of Kerry.

[sandnsea]

10. Some are, some aren't

You can usually tell the difference because they've been around a while. All of a sudden, they'll pop up with the most right wing view on an issue that you could imagine. If you took every Democrat and every left/right issue, you'd never get a concensus. Never.

[Piperay]

9. I truly believe that the

vast majority of Democratic voters are much more conservative to moderate than the posters here in the DU. What it means in the GE remains to be seen though because perhaps the people here are more fired up and willing to work harder to put the nominee in to office. :shrug: Could be anyone's guess, I don't know, I just hope ALL sides want the chimp out as bad as I do. :mad:

[bread_and_roses]

12. In poll after poll

we have seen that most people want "health care for everyone" and believe in living wages for work. So far, a majority do not want a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, even if they oppose it personally. These are not "right-wing" stances. It is a matter of how the candidate frames the position that determines whether people will say yea or nay, quite often. Thanks for the head's up, I'll make a point to go over and help the balance for progressives. poster.

[sandnsea]

14. Come to the Kerry forum

That's all I have to say.

[edzontar]

16. These folks sound like the Kerry supporters on DU.

The campaign seems to have wanted these people--and now we havenews that Kerry supports a gay marriage constitutional ban in MA.


Once you make your bed, you have to lie in it. I will cry no tears for the electability movement.

[HFishbine]

17. Here's a novel idea

How about articulating principles, taking a stand and letting the chips fall where they may? If poor Kerry is getting criticism from all fronts, it's only because he tries to play the voters instead of leading, and it's an ominous sign for November.