Carville coming to the rescue?

[fadedrose]

I heard something on C-Span or maybe it was CNN, don't know, but it was about Penn being fired and Carville coming in to handle Clinton's campaign. Watch out Obama and Edwards...

Anybody know the details?

[mathewsleep]

1. all i know

is that it's too late. i like carville, but i don't think even he can pull hillary out of her tail spin.

[BenDavid]

4. Wait, the "Obama landslide" was what, 38%? That means 62%

of Iowa Democrats didn't like Obama, yet Bush's mediawhores keep saying, "America has changed, Obama has charmed the white man."
Anybody believe that?Remember what they did to Harold Ford?Who thinks America has changed in the last 14 months?

I say lets let this play out okay. Wrote this afternoon about Carville and Bagala maybe coming bacak but did not get the final memo. The old war room will be reunited except for judas maximus george s. (yes the abc sunday one) but here is what i believe might be the key.....Follow along now....Okay so obama wins nh and then goes and wins sc. Now if you care for delegates obama has a total of 83 with Iowa.....Now here we have hrc with 15 from iowa and she wins nevada and their 25, and then you have michigan. A state full of delegates but a lot of electoral votes. Then after that you have Florida and many electoral votes.128 and 185. Now the media will report the total vote count of each state. Now hrc wins florida a week before super tuesday and guess who has the mo going into 2/5? uh huh HRC....you would have hrc with 353 delegates, and obama behind by twice hrc count.

Now with that mo, I give obama illinois and maybe a couple of more states. see how nice i am, and hrc wins the other 16....Now look at your totals and look at who now is the front runner. Yep, it's hrc.....

So before you all start playing the violins to the death march, lets just wait and see what happens in the 4 states left in january..

[Occam Bandage]

7. Really, you should update this copy-paste to reflect that MI and FL do not have delegates,

and that no other candidates are running in those states.

[mathewsleep]

12. thanks

for having my back.

[mathewsleep]

9. time for what hillary calls a "reality check"

in every poll, even the national ones, hillary is losing ground. she's tied with obama in the nationals. she held a nice fat 15 point lead last week. obama is well ahead in most of the early states, and will more then likely sweep them all, even florida; most of the analysts predict as much. no one has lost all the early states and come back to win the primary. she's sinking, and he's raising.

intrade,
obama to win democratic primaries: 70.1%, a month ago it was: 20%
hillary to win: 27%, a month ago it was 70%

http://www.intrade.com/#">my source

polling report,
national polls: obama 33%, clinton 33%; ten days ago, obama 27% clinton 45%.
that's a 12 point drop for hillary. that's more then a point a day. if that continues until super tuesday, she'll be at -.6% for the primaries. that's not even possible.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08dem.htm">my source

and lastly;
new hampshire(poll of polls): obama 36.9%, clinton 29.2% http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_primary-194.html">my source
intrade:
obama 86% to win south carolina. http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/searchPageBuilder.jsp?z=1199775860879&grpID=5601#">my source
obama 75% to win florida. http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/searchPageBuilder.jsp?z=1199775860879&grpID=5601#">my source
obama 71% to win nevada. http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/searchPageBuilder.jsp?z=1199775860879&grpID=5601#">my source
obama 55% to win california, to hillary's 33%. http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/searchPageBuilder.jsp?z=1199775860879&grpID=5601#">my source

she's going down, there is no doubt about that.

[Rageneau]

14. And you should attribute BartCop wen you quote him.

Wait, the "Obama landslide" was what, 38%? That means 62% of Iowa Democrats didn't like Obama, yet Bush's mediawhores keep saying, "America has changed, Obama has charmed the white man."
Anybody believe that? Remember what they did to Harold Ford?Who thinks America has changed in the last 14 months?

The above thoughts, in virtually identical language, were on BartCop's site today.

[dailykoff]

2. He better get paid by the hour

because there aren't too many left I'm afraid.

[liberalnurse]

3. I recommended

Paul Begalia. Penn needs to be assigned to making coffee.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

5. Who?

You mean the guy who is on Maitlin's tag team? Yeah, he will make a difference. If all voters are stupid. Maybe they are!

[Lucinda]

6. Just saw a bit about it on the AC360 replay on CNN

Supposedly he will come in IF Penn gets the boot

[still_one]

8. I wonder if this is Carville coming to the rescue:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jB8n288YSUL-mMk3_2pTlq43xjoA

because if it is, she is going to lose big time

[Cha]

10. Or did they borrow

unca dick's playbook when he was takin' a nap?

[still_one]

11. either way they really blew it in my book /nt

[Cha]

13. Well, Ye-ah! I hope they're

held accountable for this..cause I know some of us are outraged that they would pull that fearmonger bushit crap. They're so lame they can't think of anything else to do to save their fatcat asses.

[TankLV]

15. Great! I love Carville Ice Cream! I used to be a "soda jerk" during high school for them...

used to be the best ice cream ever - unfortunately, their ice cream is so bad here here in Las Vegas they make Dairy Queen seem like the best...not the same quality control at all - in fact, it now tastes like ice water...

[Kahuna]

16. This is what I expected to happen. nt

[Robbins]

17. Race

This Is 2008,and not 1992.They still think they can rerun that campaign.with Obama now tied In
national polls Feburary 5 may not be the blowout for her some think.WHile Florida may not really
count there Is a possiblly Obama could do better.I will not be surprised If polls change In
California In Favor of Obama.Despite what some want to believe Obama narrowly won rank and file
democrats In Iowa,and some studys suggest the same will happen In New Hampshere.Only 65 and older
voters are more for Hillary than Obama.All other groups are going for Obama.