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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:27 PM
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Totally with Edwards, Hillary grow up
You're running for President not panelist on The View
Stop with the crying
Get some backbone and take on the corporations
And stop with the fear mongering and the 9/11 card
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:33 PM
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1. Backbone - like Edwards showed when he stood up to Bush on the IWR?
Oh, right. He was "scared" into co-sponsoring it.

For the record, I have nothing against Edwards. I'm undecided and would be perfectly happy with any of the candidates winning the nomination. What I object to is this constant, hyperbolic, hysterical nonsense posted about our candidates.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:49 PM
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15. No, backbone like when he got emotional and said "This is personal to me!"
It's okay for him, for some reason. (But don't say it's about gender, or you'll be labeled part of the dreaded "Sexism Swarm!")
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:55 PM
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16. Good point.
And, yet, a lot of people will fight to the death the suggestion that there is a double standard in play.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:34 PM
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2. Invoking "The View" was an excellent sexist jibe
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:34 PM
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3. "Get some backbone and take on the corporations." A good place to start would be
by working for hedge funds--preferably, hedge funds that invest heavily in subprime lending. And be sure to keep at least half your fortune in them! That's the way you can be a real anti-coporatist man of the people like Edwards.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:36 PM
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4. yeah, your man likes to give the corporations the taxpayers lunch
He is a sell out
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:38 PM
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5. Can't defend your guy, so you resort to broad, unsupported smears. Typical.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:42 PM
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7. Too bad it's the truth
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:45 PM
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10. Yep. It's the truth that Edwards doesn't walk the walk.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 09:45 PM by Occam Bandage
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:44 PM
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8. Who needs defense, when you have SLOGANEERING
I thought that was a vestige of Stalinism or some old Commie ruse, but Obama is perfecting it on the fly.

Why state platforms and show your ignorance? Much better to have a slogan a day, to keep scrutiny away.

Yesterday, it was "change" and "hope". Today, it was "riding the wave". This isn't some frickin theme Park ride, this is bare knuckle politics to rid this Country of CORPORATISM.

Ah, but theres the rub. Who is most Corporatist after Hillary? Why Barack Obama.

By the way, since I don't give free passes like the Press, why didn't anyone ask why he called Pakistan a "Democracy", this past Saturday Night in the opening question of the ABC debates? Hmm?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:46 PM
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12. "We need a fighter!"
:eyes:
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ObamaAmerican Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:39 PM
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6. America is ready for a black president but not a woman
Iowa was the clearest proof of this.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:44 PM
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:46 PM
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11. How ignorant.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:48 PM
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13. After reading all the sexist posts in regards to Clinton online, I have to agree with you.
Racism is a dying breed, but sexism is not only alive and kicking, but it's also thriving.

You've come a long way baby, was a crock of SHIT!

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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:49 PM
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14. I'd happily vote for Barbara Boxer and Elizabeth Edwards, my my...
But not Hillary.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:23 PM
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18. How safe of you, since neither is running.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:40 PM
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19. Convince them to and I will be for them
Stop with the sexist charges
It won't make anyone support your candidate
Being just like George Bush and Karl Rove will not win you supporters
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:41 PM
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20. Yeah, you're really winning supporters for your candidate.
What's his name again?
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:42 PM
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21. Mike Gravel
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 10:42 PM by MalloyLiberal
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:47 PM
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25. So by your logic
Anybody who doesn't vote for Clinton is a sexist? Boy I can hardly argue with that unassailable logic.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:49 PM
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27. You must read with blinders to not see the sexist bullshit posted here.
Sad, but so common around here as of late.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:46 PM
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24. Michelle Obama, Barbara Mikulski, Louise Slaughter
the idea that this is sexist is ludicrous.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:01 PM
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29. Don't think Michelle is qualified. Lynn Woolsey would be great.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:24 PM
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30. Michelle is as qualified as Elizabeth n/t
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:36 PM
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31. To show off dance moves. Michelle is as much fluff as Obama is
No policy whatsoever
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:39 PM
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32. She talks in real language to real people
We know what she means when she talks about neighborhood schools and pensions for grandmothers and a time when one salary could raise a family of four. We know there are 1,000 different solutions to every problem and the real answer is a President who will tell us the truth about the proposals and invite us into the problem solving process.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:02 AM
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36. Fluff. Yeah. VP of the University of Chicago Hospitals.
BA Princeton
JD Harvard Law

Associate at Sidley Austin
Assistant to the Mayor (Chicago)
Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development (Chicago)
Executive Director Public Allies, Chicago Office
Associate Dean of Student Services, The University of Chicago
Vice President for Community and External Affairs, University of Chicago Hospitals.


I wouldn't exactly say that's fluff. That's the kind of resume that could easily run for office if she wanted to.
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phillysuse Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:07 PM
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17. Black men got the right to vote before either
white or black women.

So maybe we will have a black male President before any woman.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:58 AM
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35. Black men and women both had trouble exercising that right until the 1960's
US, and particularly Southern society took much longer to accept that the law about black men being able to vote should be observed than it did when the law changed to enfranchise women.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:43 PM
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22. Disruptor
No Obama supporter would say such a thing.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:45 PM
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23. That is ridiculous
America's not ready for a Southern white male either?
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Mr_Monday Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:50 PM
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28. Well
Black males were allowed to vote before white females. The Civil Rights movement preceded the worldwide feminist movement.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:52 AM
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33. Iowa was not proof that America isn't ready for a woman.
It wasn't even proof that IOWA isn't ready for a woman.

There's no telling how Hillary would have done against a different black man, or for that matter how a different woman would have done against Barack. The people of Iowa were choosing between individuals, they were not asked to support a race or gender.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:47 PM
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26. Edwards didn't say that.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:56 AM
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34. And over what? Because of a primary election.
This is not Nam, Smokey, this is bowling!
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