Olbermann hitting Hillary hard for "playing the Al Qaeda card"

[flpoljunkie]

He noted up front how quickly she pivoted from "tears" to "fear."

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Wow. KO is not liking Hillary much tonight.

[nosmokes]

6. Ya got any reason he should?

I've looked and I come up empty.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. It's interesting because I kept reading all this stuff on DU about

how KO was a shill for Hillary, which I never perceived at all.

[Yael]

24. I haven't perceived that at all

He has always seemed neutral, and believe me, I have been stalking him (via the show) for clues. :D

[jenmito]

29. He WAS a shill for the Clintons. Even after she lost Iowa. It ended today.

He hates when the Repubs. play the fear card as you may know. SHE played it and he noticed. Good for him for calling her on it.

[Berry Cool]

34. He was NEVER a shill for the Clintons. That was the figment of many DU'ers' imaginations.

Now he says flat-out negative things about her, and all of a sudden they're saying "He changed his tune."

HE didn't change his tune.

[jenmito]

47. Yes he was. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

49. No he wasn't. n/t

[jenmito]

53. Yes he was. Infinity. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

54. Was not. Not, not, not.

[rufus dog]

69. yes he was, infinity infinity squared!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

71. NOT!

:D

[ihavenobias]

18. I noticed that myself

I like Countdown but haven't been watching consistently lately.

Is this normal for him or did he really just not like what Hillary said today (it wasn't just the fear card, he brough up other issues)?

[Thrill]

2. Shes pulling out all the stops

Now resulting to Republican talking points.

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. he is

saying she's like Bush and Chambliss and Cheney.

wow

:wow:

[Yael]

26. WHOA!!

I missed the opening. Off to stalk YouTube. :hi:

[polichick]

4. He's definitely got a bone to pick tonight...

Hmmmm...

[ronnykmarshall]

44. Huuuh huuuh ..... you said "bone"

I thought that was only reserved for Stephanie "Momma" Miller when it came to Keith!

[polichick]

57. oops, sorry :)

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Bush was on vacation, he had nothing else to rant about... now on

to japanese pigs jumping on trampolines.

[Birthmark]

7. I'm gonna miss Keith.

Oh, well.

[gaiilonfong]

10. LOL

He isn't going ANYWHERE....
I like him because he call EVERYONE on their crap!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. KO calls 'em like he sees 'em.

One of his pet peeves for months is the Republicans' use of the "fear card," and now that Hillary's done it he won't cut her any slack, either.

[Birthmark]

15. Well, wherever he goes...

...he can count on my discretion. I won't be watching him. :)

[gaiilonfong]

17. OK n/t

[bagimin]

78. How will he sleep tonight?

:rofl:

[Birthmark]

86. Self-righteously, of course.

[Cha]

12. What's that

suppose to mean?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. Means that KO was wonderful until he criticized Hillary.

But now he's crap.

[Birthmark]

21. Yes, because I *must* be a Hillary supporter...

...except that I'm not. Keith has become a self-important blowhard. He's not as bad as O'Reilly yet, but he's getting there. I realize that some depend upon him to tell them what to think, but I'm not among their number. He can pontificate all he likes. And those want to swoon over him can swoon.

I won't notice. I promise. :)

[Berry Cool]

37. It's entirely possible for people to watch Keith without depending on him

to tell you what to think.

It is, however, difficult for some people to comprehend that.

And as for not noticing, you're noticing right now. Better stop.

[Birthmark]

62. Apparently it's not. ;^D eom

[Berry Cool]

72. And you think that was amusing?

Oh well. Must be easily amused.

[Birthmark]

87. I am indeed.

Thanks for asking.

[Cha]

25. Thanks, I'm sure KO

will miss them. I'm just glad to know he wasn't ever favoring her.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Sure puts the lie to the frequent claim that KO has been shilling for Hillary,

which he never did.

[Cha]

9. This is the second time I've

read KO is calling hillary on something..I wish I could remember what happened last week. But, before that it seemed he was talking real good about her.

Anybody who plays that freakin' al qaeda card needs to be hauled in. Fuck those talking points..fearmonger.

[K Gardner]

16. Well, remember how many segments KO has devoted to the Bush Fearmongering.. and the segments

about all those time they raised the "terror alerts" to their convenience to divert attention..

Keith HATES that shit.. no doubt he was going to call her on it.

[Cha]

31. It's incredible that we

have someone in m$m who hates those fear talking points as much as some of us do!

[NoSheep]

13. As if you didn't get it before.....

:eyes:

[jenmito]

20. I was going to start a thread about this. Keith doesn't like when someone plays the fear card...not

even if it's his girl Hillary. I am so glad Keith saw the light, like so many other people.

[Berry Cool]

40. Hillary was never "his girl." Ever.

No one was "his." Ever.

He's got integrity and he's consistent when it comes to covering the candidates. As hard as that is for some people to believe.

He didn't need to "see the light" because he was never favoring Hillary to begin with.

[jenmito]

46. I disagree...

I still watch Keith every night, even though up 'til tonight he DEFINITELy was in the tank for Hillary AND Bill Clinton. He said as much to Matthews when Matthews, one night, said something like, "She seemed genuinely friendly. You might start to warm up to her." He replied something like, "START to warm up to her?"

But he's been railing against RWers using the fear card, always pointing it out, showing time lines of the nexus between fear and politics, etc. So when SHE did it, he apparently jumped off her bandwagon.

[Berry Cool]

74. If he was "definitely in the tank for Hillary and Bill Clinton,"

how come in the back of his latest book, he thanks not only them but John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich and I don't even remember who else?

How come he doesn't vote? How come, when he's been asked who he'd like to see as president, his answer is Elizabeth Edwards?

Some partisan.

Yeah, I remember the "START to warm up to her?" comment, but never did he imply that she was the only candidate he was ever "warm" to.

He's very consistent about disliking it when candidates play the fear card. He doesn't care who they are. You just saw evidence of it tonight. That was all. He was never on her "bandwagon" any more than he was on anyone else's.

[jenmito]

79. You just proved my point by saying he thanked them in the back of his book.

So he thanked Edwards, too, and LIKES the Edwardses. Did he thank Obama? Why did he repeatedly mention, after Obama's win in IA, that it was only REALLY a one point victory among Dems.? Why didn't he have any good words for Obama that night?

[MS Liberal]

22. Keith is wrong!!!!

Facts are facts, the new President will be tested by our enemies starting on day one. Hillary is right, for once Keith is wrong. Hope enjoy the Obama bandwagon. I'm sticking with Hillary.

[K Gardner]

30. OMG.. elect Hillary or AlQueda will attack?? Are you freakin kidding me??

[IndianaGreen]

33. That's what we call fearmongering. Bush and Cheney have been doing it for 7 years!

Vote for anyone but me, and Al-Qaeda will attack!

[Lugnut]

35. Oooga booga

I'm so skeeered.
:scared:





:sarcasm:

[gmudem]

51. You should send in an application to the Giuliani campaign

I bet they'd like your input.

[DURHAM D]

55. I just got off the phone with an upset friend.

He turned off KO for the first time ever (as did I) because he was so angry. He was angry about the entire Hillary report but in particular about the MLK comments.

My friend is a historian - he has always admired KO for his grasp of history. Tonight KO lied. As my friend said - as children we never forget the first time our parents lie to us (and we know it). Tonight KO lied to us. He knows better than what he said.

My friend also suggested that KO probably does not find Tweety nearly as offensive as we thought he did.

KO is on script now. He should not be any more of a problem. Obama's path has been totally and completely cleared by the corporate media.

On a personal note - I am speeding up my plans to move from the east coast to the middle of the country. I will feel safer there.

[truebrit71]

64. You're gonna have to get a boatload more specific about WHAT he "lied" about...

...I watched it and couldn't see or hear any lies. Can you list them for us please?

Many thanks.

[suston96]

23. We are not liking KO.

His show has deteriorated so that now he is a Chris Matthews echo.

We will soon be saying goodbye to KO

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. But everybody LOOOOOVED him when he was thought to be a Hillary partisan.

Funny how that changed...

[suston96]

39. We loved his special comments, but alas, KeithO has had a mind meld with Chris Matthews...

Now they are both Fox news guys wannabes.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

41. LOL!

KO was the greatest thing since sliced bread until he committed the mortal sin of criticizing Hillary. Funny how that works.

[IndianaGreen]

36. "We?" You got a mouse in your pocket?

Keith's inconvenient truth is that Hillary is following Karl Rove's playbook of yelling "Al-Qaeda" to frighten the American people.

[suston96]

50. A mouse? No, that is the "majestic we". I am royalty.

[IndianaGreen]

28. Keith replays at midnight ET, for those that missed a great segment on Hillary

We even got a DUer Clintonista accusing Keith Olbermann of being a "Hillary hater." This sounds so much like those that call us "self-hating Jews" because we fail to follow the pro-Israel orthodoxy.

[Lugnut]

32. As he should

I can't be the only person in this country who is sick of hearing somebody try to scare me.

[Mother Of Four]

38. Anyone have a link yet?

The most recent show I could find was Jan 4 :(

[IndianaGreen]

42. MSNBC will post the transcript sometime tonight, but you can catch the rerun

at midnight ET.

[Mother Of Four]

63. Thank you kindly n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

43. Oh wait ..

wasn't KO a Hillary shill last week?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

45. So we were led to believe.

But tonight he criticized her, so now he's REALLY REALLY BAD and we will NEVER WATCH HIM AGAIN because he's an OBAMA SHILL and he SUCKS!!

:sarcasm:

[DURHAM D]

48. I think he feels defensive - but can't identify the feeling.

The corporate media is not in any manner doing their job of vetting Obama.

Hillary has to run a national political campaign against the "men" of her party, against the corporate media that is sponsoring Obama, and she has to try to help that same corporate media do their reporting/vetting job. She is just one woman.

The lack of due diligence by the media leaves it up to Hillary to bring up Obama's green factor. I do not want Obama in the oval in case of any sort of emergency - I have no reason to believe he will/can make a reasoned decision. He's got nothin'. Same as Bush.

[jenmito]

58. What experience does she have besides voting FOR the war AFTER consulting with Bill?

And now she's fear-mongering? No thank you!

[Colobo]

52. Go Keith!

[BootinUp]

56. Olberman's recording is skipping

and out of sync.

[jenmito]

60. Um, no way. He's been defending Hillary up 'til tonight. He can't stand fear-mongering and tonight

he let it be known-as he always does when he sees it. Maybe you're right afterall-he's still pointing out fear-mongering. You're against that when it's YOUR candidate who's guilty of it?

[BootinUp]

61. My candidate doesn't kick out UN inspectors

and launch invasions against a country when the issues are being effectively dealt with sans massive violence. Keith should know better. This country isn't going to elect an anti-war candidate, they will elect a smart one that prefers a multilateral approach to dealing with rogue nations. I'm sure I can pick out some tough words from Obama on terrorism if I wanted to.

[truebrit71]

66. Man you REALLY bought in to what the General told you eh?

Wow....:eyes:

KO hit the nail on the head tonight...again...

[BootinUp]

67. where's the beef? nt

[IndianaGreen]

73. Clintonistas are reduced to quoting a Burger King commercial from the 1980s

You guys really belong in a museum somewhere.

[BootinUp]

75. IG reduced to broad brushes and personal insults.

get a life.

[jenmito]

68. Your candidate voted for the IWR and against the Levin/Reid amendment for further diplomacy.

Now she's claiming SHE'S somehow ready to "lead from day one"? I don't think so. The fear-mongering is straight out of the RW playbook.

[BootinUp]

70. what a boring "netroots cw" response. nt

[jenmito]

77. Do YOU even know what you're talking about? 'Cause I sure don't.

[ObamaAmerican]

59. Hillary clearly represents the status quo. She's negative and unelectable .eom

[mtnsnake]

65. KO has been pretty boring lately so why not pile on Hillary like everyone else. Its good for ratings

[Berry Cool]

76. I am thoroughly and entirely amazed by what I see here.

Seems like a lot of people just loooooove KO until he says something negative about THEIR candidate, or doesn't say anything on a given night about their candidate. Then, all of a sudden, he's an MSM media whore, a shill, a liar, a fellow of Tweety, a repeater of talking points, a robot programmed by his corporate masters to parrot only what they want him to say...He was never any good, he was just a fake, a phony, a mirage...they'll never watch him again.

Never does it seem to have occurred to some people that maybe, just maybe, what KO said can be explained by one simple fact: that he's an independent thinker who isn't always going to agree with ANYONE on everything.

That when he disagrees with them on something, it's not necessarily because he's following orders from someone else. Maybe, perhaps, just maybe, he's (steel yourself for the shock here) thinking for himself.

Oh, but noooo. That would explain everything too easily. Except that some people would have to realize that it's possible for a perfectly intelligent human being with integrity to agree with them about A, but disagree with them about B. And if they tried to wrap their brains around THAT concept, their poor little heads would explode.

[doublethink]

80. Fuck I finally found the sane, reasonable response in this thread!

The last frickin one .... thank you Berry Bush. Not posting much in DU lately, just kind of enjoying reading the adult responses to all these kids bickering in here. Too funny. Peace. :thumbsup:

[springhill]

81. God..........

Thank you for your sane comments. It never ceases to amaze me the number of really immature people who post on this board these days.

[BattyDem]

83. Thank you for an excellent post!

:toast:

Keith has always slammed people who play the fear card. Why would he (or should he) let Hillary off the hook? :shrug:

[bullwinkle428]

85. Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Zueda]

82. Keep in mind...

the way she runs her campaign is the way she will govern.

[IndianaGreen]

84. Reminder that Keith Olbermann repeats at midnight ET

Coming up in less than half an hour on MSNBC.