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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:39 PM
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Prediction: Clinton fires Penn in 24 hours
After suffering a near fatal setback in NH, Hillary will have to make a dramatic move to repackage herself.
She will fire Penn and then we will see the New Hillary version 9.0.

Here is the foreshadowing in Time

Specifically, those inside the campaign and outside advisers fault Penn for failing to see the Iowa defeat coming. They say he was assuring Clinton and her allies right up until the caucuses that they would win it. Says one: "He did not predict in any way, shape or form the tidal wave we saw." In particular, he had assured them that Clinton's support among women would carry her through. Yet she managed to win only 30% of the women's vote, while 35% of them went for Obama

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1700705,00.html?xid=rss-politics-cnn

Now here is the question:

What will the New Hillary be?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:42 PM
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1. She will be the "warrior woman"
No, wait, that's what she is now...

:P
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:47 PM
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2. Character is tested in adversity, not triumph
She is now in the crucible.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:24 PM
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9. "Grace under fire."
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:50 PM
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3. She has to seize the reins of her own campaign
This is her test of leadership. So what if Bill disapproves?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:53 PM
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4. By then it will be too late
The fact that she saw anything promising in his bullshit tells me a lot about her judgment.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:54 PM
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5. Xena!!
:rofl:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:02 PM
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6. Well, Edwards' people were modeling the same turnout as Clinton's nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:02 PM
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7. Is that 24 BUSINESS hours?
;)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:55 AM
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10. Well it turned out to be about 9 hours
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:09 PM
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12. Mark Penn has been fired?
:shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:57 PM
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13. It was reported that as soon as the polls close he will be moved aside. a little premature i admit
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:05 PM
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19. Have they made an announcement yet?
:shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:18 AM
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20. Nope they decided to go out and win the election instead lol
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:33 AM
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21. That seems to be a pretty good choice
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:08 PM
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8. What would be great. Carville, bagala and the war room folks
minus judas maximus george (abc) came back and take over this campaign and beat obama and beat him bad....go after him hard and be down right mean. Hell, they will be called all kind of names if they do this from racists, to bigots and all that but its hard to be call a racist when one's life work says different....

I chuckle at obama people in here getting all up in an uproar and calling other du members that support hrc, racists....Racism is, very simply, evil on a monumental scale. Condemn it wherever and whenever it reveals itself, and it is perhaps most crucial to condemn it precisely when it is most "inconvenient".

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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:04 PM
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15. Funny
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Mr_Monday Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:56 AM
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11. Kind Grandmother nt
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:03 PM
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14. I predict that she will be..
Still married to Bill, still thought as "shrill and impersonable" and the Runner Up to the '08 Democratic Nominee.

But, that's just me.. what do I know?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:05 PM
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16. Someone said earlier on MSNBC that instead of firing...
others would just move in. Reason given was long-standing personal relationships with the current group.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:08 PM
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17. I saw it when someone posted here about Obama's 1000 Iowa house parties.
1000 house parties all on one night! That's when the Obama organization really impressed me. Penn should have taken note then.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 PM
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18. I knew this day would come. But it should have happened sooner.
From my OP on December 30th.

Hillary! Wake up and toss these parasites out of your campaign while you still can.

Show some spine. Tell your campaign "Who's your mommy?"

Lose the losers. Tell Penn and McAuliffe and Carville "thanks, but no thanks".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3909933
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