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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:16 PM
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Clinton campaign says Obama breaking state law
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- The Clinton campaign is accusing the Obama campaign of violating state law by placing automated phone calls to numbers on the Do Not Call list. An Obama official said the accusation is just "11th-hour false attacks".

A poll out tonight shows Obama leading Clinton by 10 points.

Former State Rep. Sandy Keans, a Clinton supporter from Rochester, said she received a call.

“This afternoon, I received a pre-recorded phone message from the Obama campaign attacking Senator Clinton even though I am on the Do-Not-Call List," Keans said.

The Clinton campaign quickly called a press conference call on the issue.

Former state Democratic party chair Kathy Sullivan, a Clinton supporter, said she was "disappointed" in the Obama campaign.

The ad itself was not a negative message and identified itself as being paid for by Obama.

In response the Obama called the move desperate.

"Every hour since Hillary Clinton lost in Iowa, her attacks have become more and more desperate. This call was in direct response to one of many 11th-hour false attacks Clinton has made at the end of the New Hampshire campaign. Our disclaimer absolutely complies with the federal law and our vendor has assured us that he scrubbed the list for people on the Do Not Call registry. However, if this call went to someone who should not have received it, we will make sure the vendor takes every step to make sure this doesn’t happen again," said New Hampshire Obama campaign co-chair Ned Helms.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/politics/primarysource/2008/01/clinton_campaig_3.html

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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:18 PM
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1. Political calls are protected by the first amendment and not subject to the DNC list.
Pathetic.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:28 PM
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18. true - and some folks are trying to close that loophole - link below
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:40 PM
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24. Maybe they get changes made.
I actually like the calls. Used to hate it before Tivo, but now I think it's fun to debate the less informed.

Personally , I think the growing use of cells as primary phones is completely changing the landscape of polling and GOTV efforts. Phones are the old way, a less valuable campaign tool every day, IMO. So a political do not call list wouldn't bother me at all.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:20 PM
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2. GOBAMA
Don't let "Madame Ready on day 1" get away with her LIES!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:20 PM
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3. Love the ad at the bottom, Qualify for Air Combat Training.... I
expect people with designs on hijacking airplanes need not apply this time around.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:21 PM
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4. This is Taylor Marsh DLC Clinton Operative Spin
It started on her website. Huffpost has picked it up and has debunked the illegality!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:21 PM
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5. OMG.. breaking the law?? Are they gonna TASE him? !
Dear Hillary -

Save yourself. Give up now. Lucrative speaking career awaits.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:22 PM
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8. good one
LMAO
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:21 PM
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6. This must be what Novak was talking about
:rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:22 PM
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7. Sheesh, I love how they're not attacking
I just read today they had changed their minds about doing it.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:24 PM
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10. Oh..I know..perish forbid
any negative word is an attack..
Oh..I'm gonna get the vapors for sure here..
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:23 PM
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9. So, if I get another call from the Clinton campaign, I can sue them?
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:24 PM
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11. No. But you should email a disingenuous hit piece writer and let them know
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cmaff05 Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:27 PM
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17. Hillary is sweating it
Hillary's campaign is really sweating it if this is what they've been reduced to. This is really a non-issue.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:25 PM
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12. These calls are explicitly allowed under state law
RSA 664 is the chapter which covers political expenditures and contributions, and also has the laws concerning automated phone calls. However:

664:1 Applicability of Chapter. The provisions of this chapter shall apply to all state primary, general and special elections, but shall not apply to presidential preference primaries.

The calls are not against the law. Period.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:26 PM
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16. Can you make this a separate thread?
Just to set the record straight>?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:40 PM
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20. Done
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:25 PM
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13. There is no law saying that people on the DNC can not be called by Political campaigns
I don't know what hillary is thinking.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:25 PM
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14. ButterflyBlood says Clinton campaign is full of shit. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:26 PM
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15. LOL...Stop them from beating us, please
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:30 PM
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19. Throwing shit at the wall...hoping it sticks...lol
This makes them look VERY desperate...
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:46 PM
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21. From the FTC's "Do Not Call Registry" web site
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 08:48 PM by BattyDem
If I register my number on the National Do Not Call Registry, will it stop all telemarketing calls?

No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop most telemarketing calls, but not all. Because of limitations in the jurisdiction of the FTC and FCC, calls from or on behalf of political organizations, charities, and telephone surveyors would still be permitted, as would calls from companies with which you have an existing business relationship, or those to whom you’ve provided express agreement in writing to receive their calls.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt107.shtm

On edit: Oops ... I just realized that chascarrillo posted this info in a linked thread. :blush:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:31 PM
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22. Good grief. What next? "Clinton campaign says Obama jaywalked?"
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:35 PM by Garbo 2004
They called a press conference for this? Maybe they should have first fact checked what NH state law actually is? This is the kind of high powered, top drawer organization Clinton has and they're reduced to this?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:33 PM
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23. LOL @ the Clinton camp!
Gosh, they are truly desperate.
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