If Hillary has any tangable dirt on Obama, we'll know by this time tomorrow

[Joe the Revelator]

My guess is she doesn't have a thing.

[Bullet1987]

1. The problem is...

they don't have the time they want to mount an effective smear campaign. Even if they do release something tomarrow...that's only ONE DAY. And the most she can do is dissuade Indies from voting for Obama, she can't win their support because they largely don't like her. She's in a Catch 22.

[niceypoo]

24. Mount a smear campaign? lol

Please give examples of past "smear campaigns." You live in a paranoid fantasy world.

[Pirate Smile]

2. I think we would have known it a week ago.

[Fredda Weinberg]

3. It's not dirt. There are serious issues here regarding the general welfare.

If you regard all critcisim as attack your candidate won't remain viable for long.

[K Gardner]

5. Regarding whose general welfare? Because I'm concerned.

:sarcasm:

[Fredda Weinberg]

6. I'm serious ... let's start with poverty

Here's Obama's signature bill

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.2433:

S. 2433, The Global Poverty Act of 2007

Please, can you find anything specific in it? Looks great, but all it does is ask for a report. Can't we get past superficials and have a real debate on real legislation?

[papau]

8. interesting - a bit Reagan like in the way O's supporters can pretend he has ever changed anything

at federal level - or even proposed any real change - O's being the most conservative of the O/H/E crowd does not matter because like Reagan he seems to fly above consideration of achievements and policy positions. A smile goes a long way if you're considered good looking! :-)

[K Gardner]

10. Actually, I'm supporting Edwards, but I think to look at what is happening in

our party and our country and to say he has never changed anything is pretty disingenuous. Just from an outsider kind of view.

[papau]

19. Ok - below are his 2 big bi partisan bills that carry his name - the change was what?

he works with GOP to get a increase from 8 million to 25 million for small arms destruction around the world, and in return joins a promote coal bill that gives tax breaks to corporations.


Bill 1:
http://www.globalsolutions.org/in_the_beltway/lugar_oba...

The “Conventional Arms Disarmament Act of 2005” (Title II of S.1949), commonly referred to as the Lugar-Obama initiative, was introduced in November 2005 and proposes to restructure small arms destruction operations within the U.S. government.

Cosmetically, the bill renames PM/WRA as the Office of Conventional Arms Threat Reduction, and joins all conventional weapons stockpile security and destruction programs within the U.S. government under one office. More substantially, the bill authorizes $20 million dollars (later 25 million) of NADR funding to be specifically earmarked for small arms destruction. However, unless budget requests raise the level of total NADR funding to compensate for the Lugar-Obama earmark, the increase in small arms destruction would have to be funded from the coffers of other NADR-funded programs.

Bill 2

Senators Obama and Bunning Introduce Legislation to Expand Coal Use

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. Senators Jim Bunning (R-KY) and Barack Obama (D-IL) today announced that they have introduced S.3325, the "Coal-To-Liquid Fuel Promotion Act of 2006." Joining this bipartisan legislation as original co-sponsors are Senators Conrad Burns (R-MT); Richard Lugar (R-IN); Mark Pryor (D-AR); and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK). This comprehensive piece of legislation creates tax incentives for coal-to-liquids (CTL) technology and the construction of CTL plants. If passed, this legislation will help create the infrastructure needed to make CTL a viable energy resource throughout America......Tax Incentives for Investment and Production...Investment Tax Credit and Expensing - Expands 20% tax credit for CTL plants (including the infrastructure needed to capture, transport and sequester carbon) capped at $200 million a plant and limited to 10 plants. Provides a similar provision for expensing these investments, but does not allow double dipping....Fuel Excise Tax Extension for CTL - Extends the fuel tax credit for CTL products from 2009 (From SAFETEA-LU) until January 1, 2020.

[karynnj]

21. This is not his signature bill

He mentioned the amendments he got into the ethics bill, many over Schumer's protests. They are real accomplishments. You may want to look at the various amendments to S 1 - this year. That was the ethics bill. Look at the DeMint bill. This was an attempt by the Republicans to embarrass the Democrats by getting them to table what was really the stronger provisions of Pelosi's bill. Some Democrats, who really wanted ethics reform - even as they took over the House and Senate - prevented that. Clinton was not among them. Anti- corruption is an issue where of the top three - only Obama passed anything.

Obama also did pass ethics legislation and health care legislation in the Illinois Senate.

That bill, which was just introduced last month has yet to go to any committee, much less be voted on the floor. It puts the US behind the UN millennium goals - a noble idea. It calls on the executive branch to create a plan to do so and to keep the appropriate committee (s) informed. This likely won't pass under Bush - but if you look, you see that many things do not pass the first session of Congress they are argued in.

[TwilightZone]

4. It would be out already.

But congratulations on believing in idiots like Novak.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. I didn't believe him. In fact I compared his bullshit to Bush's line about

Iraq moving the WMD to Syria. After tomorrow though, the storyline should end.

[KennedyGuy]

9. If Obama doesn't have any dirt it has nothing to worry about

[mtnsnake]

11. Is it supposed to be Hillary who's coming out with whatever dirt you're talking about?

Or is it just rumors that somebody, but no one in particular, is coming out with it? Just wondering.

[KennedyGuy]

12. I know..someone seems a little nervous here

they keep worrying about "attacks"
what do you suppose they are afraid of?

[Joe the Revelator]

13. The line has always been that Hillary had something that she was holding on to

[KennedyGuy]

14. the "line"..from who..Novak?

great source..

[Joe the Revelator]

15. If I were you I would hope that Hillary had a card in her back pocket....

if she doesn't have a momentum changer, she's done.

[KennedyGuy]

18. Oh..Hi Wolshie

Biiiig kiss...

[mtnsnake]

16. That could be just a perpetuated rumor, but if dirt comes out, I'm sure she'll be blamed by some

Anyway, I hope there's nothing to it.

[emilyg]

17. Worry more about what GOP will come out with

against him.

[Colobo]

20. She doesn't have shit.

[AtomicKitten]

22. I hope she keeps up the ugly because it worked out so nicely for her in Iowa.

[Mother Of Four]

23. OHH OHH I know!

Breaking NEWS:

Obama is actually--
Black. No really...He is. And his family is actually....PROUD of him....imagine that.
Pssst don't look now but he's married to a--
WOMAN...of all things. Can you imagine?
He's fathered two kids out of--
LOVE ... How disgusting is that?

He fights ALL the time--
For our future.

If that's not enough...I'm sure I can dig up MORE dirt just like it! It'll sink him for SURE!

(Where is that pesky Sarcasm emote...oh there it is!:sarcasm: )

Yeesh...think about it people. If the Clinton Campaign had to stoop as low at "KindergartenGate" don't you think if they had REAL dirt they would have shoveled it by now? The only thing they are shoveling is poo.

I love Edwards and want him to win, but I'll vote for Obama proudly if he gets the nod. I'll write in a Dem if Hillary does, I'm sorry...but it's my right and I'm still supporting a Democratic Nominee- Even if its my own single person nomination.