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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:06 PM
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When will the press turn on Obama?
When do you think they will (try to) turn him into nothing more than a rock star? You know it's coming. The press thrives on new stories and Obama's 15 minutes of the press allowing him to be a serious candidate is about up. I hope he can stand up. I was reading today that is why he always wears a suit and tie and never jeans.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:07 PM
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1. Three months before the November election (nt)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM
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4. Bookmark that.
That's just what will happen.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM
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2. Not until they hand him the nomination
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM
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3. At the moment, I think they're still shocked...
...that they buried him last year, but he seems to have climbed out of the grave.

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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM
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5. About the time he gets the nomination.
It'll be too late for recovery by then.

Karl Rove wins another one.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM
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6. 2015. During the August recess.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:09 PM
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7. ...
The day after he gets the democratic nomination. When it is too late to do anything ...
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:10 PM
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8. I think it will definitely happen, I just don't think it will be soon.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:11 PM
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9. When the G-O-P says "OK , eat 'em alive" & it will be ugly. nm


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:11 PM
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10. too late
and they won't give him a hard time during the general either.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:11 PM
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11. As soon as he has the nomination he becomes "Barack Hussein Osama"
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 06:11 PM by billbuckhead
As soon as he has the nomination he becomes "Barack Hussein Osama", the Islamic crackhead. When it happens, if you listen hard, you'll be able to hear the champagne glasses clicking and laughing in the corporate towers.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:18 PM
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13. I have no intention of letting a racist argument choose my candidate for me.
Imagine where we'd be as a country if we gave in every time a bigoted minority reared it's ugly head?

You want to vote for someone else, do so. On the issues.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:25 PM
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20. What about a losing argument?
Tell all the people losing their homes, jobs and families because of Republican/neocon policies, "We fought the good fight" or "we could have won the fight with the Republicans but we chose to take on the racists instead". Sorry!
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:31 PM
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23. I'll always choose taking on the racists.
The alternative is letting the racists dictate to me. You go ahead and give in to them, I'd rather fight the good fight to every last man.

There are more people that are offended by racist attacks than are attracted to them.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:38 PM
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24. Tell that to all the people of all races without healthcare
We almost made a black man president. So sorry you're dying.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:51 PM
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28. It's not about a black president or a female president.
It's about not changing my vote based on racists. They do not get to choose my candidate for me.

Your argument doesn't impress me. That I should vote for who I think the racists and the sexists will approve of. Well, shit, I might as well vote for David Duke.

Well beat them in November with a white man, a white woman, or an african-american man. If I decide my vote based on a racial or gender standard, what does that make me?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:20 PM
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29. It makes you naive, out of touch with reality and uncaring for the victims
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 08:21 PM by billbuckhead
David Duke isn't running as a Democrat but why leave his Republican buddies beat us?
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:58 PM
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34. Better than be complicate to a racist agenda.
I am not naive, sir. I worked the most racist counties in Southern Illinois during the 04 senate race. I've fought the fight and stood fast in the face of racism. Out of touch with reality? I think not. I've experienced reality firsthand.

Your argument is based in the assumption a black man or a woman cannot win. We will win in the face of hate. Throughout history we always have. If we chose to let racism, sexism, and hatred defeat us without a fight, then we have already lost the battle for our souls. And I didn't fight so many battles to let hate beat me now.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:09 PM
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35. Being in America makes you part of a racist agenda whether you like it or not
Obama is a vanity candidacy that is high in risk and low in rewards.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:35 AM
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38. Same could be said of Hillary
High Risk, low reward - Losing the majority in Congress

I have no doubt that Edwards, Clinton, or Obama can prevail. But with Clinton we activate that RW hatred they have for the Clintons and erase all the gains we make by electing her POTUS.
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Harmonicaman Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:15 PM
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12. Well
about 2 seconds after he bcomes candidate - if thats what happens. I'm not a US citizen, but in my opinion when someone like Edwards is ignored - especially after a comparatively good result, Considering amounts spent on campaigns, Edwards Iowa performance was pretty spetacular - and he gets ignored. I see a "build em up - knock em down" scenario with the US media. Even an evangelical nutjob as republican candidate would get better press than any Dem candidate, Obama is the candadate of choice for the Republicans, just watch that evangelical "fervour" come into play along with all shades of biblical hyperbole and fearmongering, and righty whitey commentators with backdrops of crucifixes and virgin mary's. Edwards just terrifies the media in the US - especially the Murdoch cabal, as such he will never get a fair shake of the screentime %. Should he happen to get the nomination, by some fluke that can't be ignored - stand by for the most screentime ignored presidential candidate in the history of televised presidential elections, and an absolute glut of hatchet jobs.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:54 PM
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14. As soon as it certain that McCain(most especially) or
Guilliani begin to appear have the GOP candidacy.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:31 AM
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37. I agree with that, too.
My vote was for 'as soon as he gets the nomination', but I like this one too. I like it a lot, which is to say, I fear it.

I don't think Guiliani has a prayer (thank god). But I don't like McCain, either. There's a reason why many Republicans despise him.

I don't see the Republican party doing right by their party members; I see a brokered convention, and I see the will of the people being subverted.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:19 PM
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15. Does anyone really relly believe in the earliest morning hours that Obama can win a general? When .
the media will simply ignore him, except when they put him on the news and they attempt to explain his gaffe or his stumble that day. Making certain to appear sympathetic, and never saying anything negative to avoid 'black' backlash with the advertizers. Why would MSM do this? Because the advertizers no damn well that the consumer is an 'average' American and that means mostly white or hispanic, and both groups are still half or more racists. Yes Virginia, the Mexicans particularly are very racist. But they get around it by making certain that the real message about Obama is that he is a nice fella, but a bit bumbling. Oldest trick in the books, and one of the most effective as there is absolutely no anti- negative or sympathy for the picked on backlash.

Will that tactic work this time? History says so. Would you bet against the Patriots in the 16th game if they had just won 15 straight? Well some did(they are from the group represented here by Obama supporters who allow for no mention of his shortcomings)

Oh, my ears already hurt from the howls of anguish from a certain group of DUers...but thems the facts folks, like it or not.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:19 PM
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16. Right after he "clinches" the nomination. They've built him up to tear him down.
They do it to so many of them.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:20 PM
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17. it's not going to happen
he's likeable.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:22 PM
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18. I don't know about that, Magic Rat.
The MSM usually get their talking points from the Republican establishment. I would put my money on that he will be attacked unmercifully.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:27 PM
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22. no, and neither will Huckabee
the media want a Obama - Huckabee matchup because they're the two most likeable and interesting candidates.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:25 PM
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19. You mean they haven't turned on "Obama-Osama" already?
News to me.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:27 PM
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21. They won't.
They will be as sweep up as the whole country is in this historic moment.

Wake up guys. This is not your father/mothers' election.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:46 PM
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27. The National Rifle Association is already tooled up for Obama
Do you honestly think these reichwingers will easily give up power?

Check out this NRA comic strip. <http://wonkette.com/politics/nra/nras-secret-graphic-novel-revealed-223889.php>
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:51 PM
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36. The question was when would the media turn on Obama.
Of course the NRA is drooling to go after him just like they would Hillary or Edwards.
And they would be happy to add racism to their appeal. With Hillary, they would mix in
misogyny. Right wing hate groups will all attack. They are on automatic. So what else is new?
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:41 PM
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25. people have been saying that since last year
When will the media turn on Obama so Hillary will win the nomination so that the media can defeat Hillary? The media conspiracies are a little wacky sometimes.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:42 PM
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26. I don't think they will. I think even the MSM has sense enough to know that there is something
America sees in Obama - and they'd better not piss off the throngs of people watching his videos and contributing to his campaign and flocking to see him. I wish we could get them that scared of us as Democrats, in general ! It bothers me, because I'm leaning to Edwards right now and he certainly gets none of this. But I really don't see the MSM turning on Obama. They mights as well turn themselves off if they do that, at least at this point.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:24 PM
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30. Gee, I wonder if those millions of anti-war crowds could get the MM attention
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 08:24 PM by billbuckhead
Kerry couldn't have been swiftboated without the complicity of the Mainstream Media. I think Hillary is pretty much immune to any more propaganda but Osama is a huge blank canvas for them to exploit.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:40 PM
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32. There's no fairness to it. I agree.
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:35 PM
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31. When the mania wanes...
and they have to generate more banners...more headlines...
to reel 'em in. They'll milk it until then.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:43 PM
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33. As soon as it's clear he will get the nomination
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:17 AM
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39. Depends on who the Repub candidate is
Depends on when they think Edwards is out for good. Hillary or Romney or set to win.
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