This Is Where Hillary Won It: Words Are Words, Actions Are Actions

[fightindonkey]

This is the problem. These people are all talk, have no experience with anything. It's all, "He makes me feel good." That's what got Bush elected. You wanted to "have a beer with him." These people are not here to be your friend, but to get the job done. This is what always lost elections for Democrats. Heart over brain. Emotion over substance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDQsAqpJzMc

[David Dunham]

1. I agree completely

[mathewsleep]

2. your wit

and sarcasm had me going there for a moment. i almost believed you, good one.

[avrdream]

4. Don't think that was sarcasm, mate.

Hillary (and Bill Richardson) were right about actions over words. I love words as much as anyone does but empty promises are just that: empty.

[Beacool]

3. I agree!!!

That's how we ended up with Reagan and Shrub in the first place!!!!

[notundecided]

23. Herd Mentality

Follow the herd. Obama being leader of the pack.

Once this race becomes one of substance rather than popularity, HRC will
do well.

[JTFrog]

25. Yes because this country has such a history of following strong black leaders.

:sarcasm:

Did you ever stop to think that the herd that broke away from the Empire in the 1700's just doesn't want another Empress?

[silverojo]

5. Hillary won nothing

She looked about as cool and collected as Bill O'Reilly in his worst moments. Obama and Edwards made it very clear that she's not the agent of change that We The People want.

It isn't emotion that makes people supporters of Obama or Edwards. It's the intellectual realization that America needs something new, and that the same old Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton cycle isn't the way to change things.

[avrdream]

6. That's intellectual?

"No more Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton"?

Give me one small break.

Empty promises from the 2 "change" candidates.

[indimuse]

14. edwards goes dowwwwwwnnnnnnn....

:silly::silly::silly:

[lumpy]

7. Couldn't agree more. High flying rhetoric without solutions

will get us nowhere.

[Quixote1818]

8. The problem is Hillary is part of the problem not the solution

Hillary hasn't done anymore than Obama or Edwards and at least Edwards has experience fighting special interest and the powerful corporations. Hillary's "Actions" have only reinforced those within the corrupt good old boy network. She is part of the problem not part of the solution.


Richardson is the only one who has the kind of experience she falsely claims to have.

[eridani]

9. They are surely right that actions are more important than words

Voting for Kyl-Lieberman (and abataining from the vote) were very, very bad actions.

[creeksneakers2]

10. Kyl-Lieberman was a great idea and it worked out great

Kyl-Lieberman made war with Iran far less likely.

[eridani]

11. It was a vile attempt to legitimize an attack on Iran

It was written WELL sfter all concerned knew about the NIE stating that Iran had no active nuclear program. Cheerleading mass murderers all. IWR was not technically supposed to be an authorization for war either, but that's how Bush used it. Bush wants to use Kyl-Lieberman the same way, and has been stopped only by objections from our own military.

[creeksneakers2]

18. It was originally a vile attempt to legitimize and attack on Iran

Then it was amended to take those parts out. That's when Hillary voted for it.

Bush never made any attempt to use Kyl-Lieberman. Condi Rice said it didn't apply, so there was no plan to use it and they never were going to use it that way.

The idea of Kyl-Lieberman was to put pressure on Iran for supposed Iranian interference in Iraq. Shortly after Kyl-Lieberman passed, Iranians told the Iraqi government they would no longer support insurgents in Iraq. According to the military, the attacks all but stopped then. Kyl-Lieberman was a big success. It made war far less likely.

Do you really believe 70 Senators would have voted for authorization to attack Iran? That would be political suicide.

[eridani]

20. Nice that we have opposition from some of the imperialist assholes who still--

--recognize that attacking Iran would be really stupid and who won't let Bush do it. Quite a nice protective bulwark against the possible ill effects of Clinton's nasty pro-war pandering.

[AtomicKitten]

12. I think you should make this OP into a video game.

It is that awesome.

[Nimrod2005]

13. That was the most stupid thing she said all night! Sorry

[LordJFT]

15. which is why the next president needs to be able to do more than win a debate

he/she needs to make the right choices when it counts *coughIraq*

[ElsewheresDaughter]

16. word!

[rucky]

17. Those were words, too.

She was pretty vague when it came to backing up that statement.

[Cameron27]

19. She didn't win it, because the pundits won't let her win it.

The lines been drawn, Obama/Edwards = change, Clinton = experience, no change, status quo. Truth doesn't enter into it.

[origin1286]

21. The good thing bout all this...

...is it might motivate all of them just a little bit

[Guaranteed]

22. Actions are actions. And what, exactly, has she DONE to stop these clowns?

Hmmmmm?????

Yeah, words are words, especially coming from a hypocrite.

[JTFrog]

24. LOL! The smell of desperation is getting thick on DU! n/t