As an Edwards supporter I have got to say, Hillary did very well tonight.She looked and sounded good

[saracat]

She took it on the chin and acquitted herself with grace.Kudos to Hillary for a nice debate performance!

[itsrobert]

1. She wasn't really bad. It's just that she was outclassed by Edwards and Obama

No shame in that.

[kurth]

2. She did better than Obama

who is now being given all kinds of excuses (sleepy, tired, overworked, thinking too hard, etc.)

[murielm99]

8. He was low-key.

I think that was planned. It is possible that his advisers told him to be low-key. Perhaps they anticipated that everyone else would pile on him because he won Iowa. They wanted him to appear unruffled by attacks.

I am not sure whom to support. I think Edwards did well, and so did Obama. It was a difference in styles.

[Cha]

27. Obama was himself..

no excuses. hillary is the one who is the "warmongering weasel".

[indimuse]

30. OBAMA: "we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with

ISRAEL
by Ali Abunimah
March 05, 2007


Israel is "our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy," Obama said, assuring his audience that "we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs." Such advanced multi-billion dollar systems he asserted, would help Israel "deter missile attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza." As if the starved, besieged and traumatized population of Gaza are about to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Obama offered not a single word of criticism of Israel, of its relentless settlement and wall construction, of the closures that make life unlivable for millions of Palestinians.

Obama has FUNDED EVERY IRAQ BILL SINCE HE ARRIVED IN THE SENATE!! OK?

[Cha]

34. Yeah, I get it...you want

hillary, the warmongering weasel.

[Evergreen Emerald]

36. there you go again repeating debunked distortions.

I can only assume, after seeing the truth about Clinton's record, and knowing that she is not a warmonger, or a weasel, that you have another agenda.

[Cha]

37. hillary's surrogates assume what

they want that doesn't have any reality base.

[Evergreen Emerald]

38. Zidzi: if you cannot find reasons to support your candidate without

resporting to spewing the distortions and debunked lies, then he must not be much of a candidate.

[Cha]

41. hillary is such a warmongering weasel..

but you knew that.

[cali]

39. LOL! you are a desperate little critter. Would you like to see what

Edwards said in 2007? I bet you wouldn't. Let me shove it in your face:

"EDWARDS AND IRAN....Here is John Edwards two weeks ago, speaking about Iran to the Herzliya Conference in Israel:

Edwards: Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons. For years, the US hasn't done enough to deal with what I have seen as a threat from Iran.....To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table. Let me reiterate -- ALL options must remain on the table....

Question: ....Would you be prepared, if diplomacy failed, to take further action against Iran?....Secondly, you as grassroots person, who has an understanding of the American people, is there understanding of this threat across US?

Edwards: ....As to what to do, we should not take anything off the table....As to the American people, this is a difficult question. The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and if they trust their president. So Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran."

Gee, JE is soooo critical of Israel. Not. And neither is Clinton.

And the lies about Obama's record of voting on Iraq funding are deplorable. He has not voted for every funding bill, and his record on the issue mirrors the MOST liberal dems in the Senate.

I don't expect you to respond to this, but consider yourself spanked- hard.

[saracat]

44. So nice of you to attack Edwards in my thread complimenting Hillary Cali .Boy, you sure aren't the

person I gave you credit for being. I thought you didn't do this kind of thing. You said you didn't jump into positive threads posting negatives.Hah! Times have changed it appears!

[pnwmom]

3. i thought Edwards did extremely well, too.

As far as Hillary goes, I especially liked the likeability moment. She handled that well.

I'm looking forward to any of our candidates facing the Rethug during the general campaign.

[Labors of Hercules]

35. I definately agree with you about the likeability moment.

It's the first time I've really thought she was charming.

[CTyankee]

42. I thought she looked a bit hurt just for a split second. It was such an "in your face" remark.

Perhaps it was one of those instantaneous moments that you are transported back to when you were 10 years old and the other girls on the playground said that nobody likes you. I felt for her, I must say, in that moment. Her resolve returned to her and she handled it humorously, but I saw a bit of hurt just for a flash...

[Thrill]

She tried to attack Obama

and get him to get angry and pissy. And it didn't work. I believe that had to be a shock to her. He was very calm. And the status quo quote from Edwards very effective. It got her in a very attacking mode.

[stillrockin]

4. She's still a corporate shill.

[emilyg]

25. Get a new line.

[earth mom]

28. Why? The truth should be known. Lying & Cheating is for rethugs. nt

[Beausoir]

5. She has substantive answers. This is an important election. No more light-weights!

[annie1]

11. unfortunately the majority of people don't care about substance.

[Beausoir]

13. Nope. It's the "who would you rather have a beer with" crowd. And the Dean Screams! crowd.

These are the people who got us into this mess in the first place.

And, I fear, there are more of them than us.

NEVER overestimate the intelligence of the American voter.

[annie1]

16. it's really sad to watch.

[babylonsister]

18. You are full of a lot of stuff. I wasn't for Dean, or anyone then. So what

am I? You are pre-supposing stuff that never happened. Pipe down or prove it. :eyes:
Your ballyhooing signifies nothing.

[babylonsister]

6. Obama rocked. Love it or not. But Edwards is my second choice,

not Clinton, ever.

[saracat]

9. Well, personally, for me, Edwards won. I think Barak was a bit bland but , while I am not a fan of

Hillary, she did okay. I think some are painting her performance in a light that is not true.Just my opinion.All our guys did well, except for maybe Richradson who is beginning to annoy me.I get that he is a governor already!LOL!

[mathewsleep]

7. nice debate performance? are you

high? she came off angry and bitter. obama came off tired. edwards came off the strongest when he defended obama vs hillary's attack. and that's what it was, an attack. at least she didn't have a staffer come on stage and say it for her, and then fire him of course.

[Dhalgren]

10. I saw the debate, I am not a Clinton supporter and I agree with the OP.

Clinton did well tonight. I saw nothing "bitter" or "angry" in her performance. She acquitted herself well, as did Edwards.

[mathewsleep]

15. were you watching

the same debate i was? did you not see this.

[saracat]

19. And/ I thought she handled that well. What was she supposed to do?cave?Sorry.I am not a Hillary fa

but she handled herslf well.

[creeksneakers2]

29. It admirable of you to say that

Willing to give credit when you see something that merits it. We need more like that on DU.

[Dhalgren]

20. Yes, I saw that - I saw the whole debate. The part you are referring

to was a point won by Clinton! I don't know what you think a debate is, but she won that point. She wasn't over the top or "shrill" or whatever the "catch-phrase" is that the meme requires, she was simply making a forceful point. I lean strongly toward Edwards, but this sniping at Clinton for what was actually a very good performance is just silly. I think that folks around here do not understand what a "debate" is...

[saracat]

14. I thought edwards won but Hillary did not do badly.She handled the likability remark very well

[mathewsleep]

17. yes

you are right, she did come off better then. almost likable. she seemed genuine; which is rare, but nice.

[Dhalgren]

12. I agree with you, sara.

I am leaning toward Edwards, and thought he was really good tonight. But Senator Clinton did very well and came off pretty good, I thought...

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. Despite another post debate thread I started

I think Edwards did very well tonight also. He showed a lot of well placed passion, and he had a clear message that he wanted to deliver, a popular message, and he delivered that message very effectively. Edwards made an excellent presentation of his case.

[NastyRiffraff]

22. I thought all of our Democrats did well

I was proud of them, particularly after suffering through the Republican debate trainwreck. The contrast was striking. Remember when people were saying Republicans were the "grownups"? I hope those people watched the two debates tonight! I think Edwards won overall, but everyone made their points very well.

[Big Blue Marble]

23. As an Obama supporter, I was very proud of Edwards.

He is my second choice. I thought he was passionate and articulate. I thought Hillary came across as harsh
and angry. She was not likable, not at all. Who wants to scolded for four years?

[emilyg]

24. Thank you. Very nice of you.

I wish we could put Clinton and Edwards together.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

26. Same here. And that "likeability" question was bullshit.

I was at an Obama gathering watching the debate, and some people (mostly men) were tickled by it. But I made my feelings known and several of the women around me agreed. It was entirely unnecessary and a blatant appeal to sexism. Screw you, Charles Gibson. You have earned my everlasting hatred. Hillary IS actually quite likeable, maybe not as much as Obama, but why was SHE asked about that when none of the other candidates were? I can't believe that John McCain would win any "likeability" contests either. Why wasn't he asked about how he deals with being widely viewed as a curmudgeon?

[Naturyl]

31. I agree. Props to the Clinton camp

I'm an Edwards guy, but Hillary put in a very respectable showing.

So did Obama, although he was basically sleepwalking through it. All he needed to do was show up and not get owned, and he managed that.

[shayes51]

32. Thank you!

[ElizabethDC]

33. Thanks, saracat, that means a lot coming from you

I know you don't particularly care for Hillary.

[saracat]

43. Hey , well fair is fair, and there is no need to be "revisionist" about a Debate.

One doesn't have to support a candidate to think they did well. Thanks for the acknowledgement Elizabeth.

[robbedvoter]

40. Thanks.

Not a Hillary supporter, but in the face of so many ugly posts - I do appreciate some truth in that matter.

[jillan]

45. Agreed! I thought she was a class act.