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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:16 AM
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Obama-mania vs Edwards steadfast support for the poor/middle class
Should be no competition -- but, Obama has Oprah and mega $$$$s. So, the poor/middle class may just have to wait a bit longer for justice/fairness.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:19 AM
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1. unless Oprah gives them a new Pontiac
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:14 AM
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7. *snort*
Or at least arranges for them to receive a new Pontiac from...Pontiac.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:20 AM
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2. Who did Obama work to try to help for three years after college - the rich? Who did he work to help
after Law School?

I take it you haven't read his book or don't know much about his life.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:27 AM
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3. How's this ...
grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia ... went to Columbia and Harvard - something my kids will NEVER be able to afford no matter how well they do in school. How did that happen given he came from a 'middle class' family? We're middle class, yet we currently have $56 dollars in our bank account after paying the mortgage, heating bills, grocery bills, second semester 'public' school fees, etc.?



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pjazz19 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:34 AM
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4. a thought
Just because he hasn't shared your experiences doesn't mean he can't understand the issue at hand.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:41 AM
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5. He hasn't shared the experiences of the majority
of middle class Americans - black, white, brown, red, or bi/multi-racial ... nor their fears or pain, at being dealt a raw deal to subsidize the wealthy/multinational corporations and an unnecessary invasion/occupation to further line the pockets of the same wealthy/multinational corporations at our great expense.

We CAN'T afford to send our kids to college;
We CAN'T afford to pay our co-pays;
We work harder and longer - year after year for less and less ...

And, yeah, that IS a big deal.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:18 AM
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9. How did FDR become FDR?
He was reared in the lap of luxury, too, right? Never had to worry about HIS social security, right? And yet . . .
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:24 AM
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10. Smart kids of lower income families don't have to pay tuition at
Harvard or Princeton.

I know, my daughter goes to Harvard.

She is smart, but we are not rich.

Check your facts on what's what prior to attempting to say that Barack has had a different experience from you or me; he hasn't.



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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:04 AM
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11. Are you ever relevant?
You are totally without perspective in your mania for style over substance.

Thread after thread.

The key question is who can accomplish the task of taking our Government back from a Corporate Oligarchy.

The list you should post is the one showing the special interest, ie, LOBBYIST monies going to Obama and NOT to Edwards.

Whose vote is for sale?

Can this Country afford an apeasement policy with the enemy ( Republicans ) or a major correction ala FDR?

I say we need a radical course correction that starts with taking down the Corporations who sponsor Wars and profit from them!

The only candidate up to that is Edwards whose Trial attorney experience with corporations and insurance carriers ( which I have too ) is enough to cement an everlasting hatred of these obscenely rich Corporations, who profit at our expense.

When Obama stops taking their money or answers why he does, I'll listen. So far he avoids it while talking change.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:16 AM
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18. Edwards earned the money himself. That's quite different from
having advantages from a prior generation such as Mittens Romney or our current resident in the White House.

The reality is that there are many smart and talented students who do not have the chance to go to Harvard or other elite schools, regardless of income, and that going to Harvard does provide advantages later.

All of our candidates have had to face challenges and all of them deserve credit.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:30 AM
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15. there are A LOT of poor people in Hawaii and Indonesia
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:32 AM
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16. and fucking Reagan and Nixon grew up poor
they certainly fought for the poor dind't they ?

and FDR and Robert Kennedy ?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:12 AM
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6. If too many folks are "wowed" by Obama's glamour and suave...
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 02:18 AM by Triana
...but ignore his seeming lack of details and substance compared to Edwards (and let's face it - to the youngest voters the 'wow' factor is all they care about - that, and what their friends say), then yup, we'll have to wait.

Murkin voters can be pretty stoopid. The young ones and the older ones. NO common sense.

EDIT: of course when the media totally ignores the best candidates instead choosing (in order to protect their corprat status-quo power and profits) to promote only the glitzy and moneyed ones - you can't expect voters to exactly be well-informed. An educated electorate is very dangerous to the status-quo. So they're going to do everything they can to avoid that. Like mushrooms - keep 'em in the dark and show some bullshit on them and they'll vote the way you want them to.



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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:17 AM
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8. A little rationality please
I'm an Edwards supporter, too, and I can recognize that a president Obama would also be very good for the working classes.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 AM
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12. Time out. Where and when has Edwards steadfastedly supported
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:23 AM by 2rth2pwr
the poor/middle class? Or are you just referring to his recent rhetoric?

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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:22 AM
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13. "Recent"?
He was passionate about this back in 2004, as well, which is why I supported him then, as well as now. His work as a trial lawyer was always to defend ordinary people from corporations.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:24 AM
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14. didn't he do a study on poverty after he left the senate? i think i recall B Clinton mentioning that
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:49 AM
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17. Yeah, that's right. He went and studied poverty at
..what was it...that hedge fund thingie, Fortress Investments?
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