Obama was FOR "Single Payer Universal HealthCare"...

[bvar22]

...before he was AGAINST it. (from tonight's debate)

NOW, Obama supports a Non-Universal HealthCare plan that funnels $MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars into the pockets of the wealthiest CEOs in the WORLD!

SEE!!!
This is what happens when you "reach across the aisle to Republicans", "search for the middleground", and "give the Health Insurance Industry a seat at the table".

It is time to run the pigs out of Washington, not give them a seat at the table!


You must FIGHT these greedy bastards.
If you give the pigs a seat at the table, they WILL eat EVERYTHING!

Lets elect a DEMOCRAT, not a "Centrist Triangulator".


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[kurth]

1. Expect little to no CHANGE in the health care crisis with Obama

[AtomicKitten]

2. I heard an interview with Obama wherein he stated he prefers

what is tantamount to the superior Kucinich plan but that that would require dismantling the entire system and he believes he can deliver universal healthcare faster with his plan ...

not that that will make any difference to you but it is a point in fact

[bvar22]

4. No need to "disassemble" anything.

That is a BOGUS excuse.

Simply expand the existing MediCare System to all Americans.
The existing FOR PROFIT Health Insurance Scam will collapse under its own immoral corruption without any help from us.
The expanded MediCare system will be able to employ many former Health Insurance bureaucrats, but many of the Managers will need to find a more moral form of employment....such as bill collectors and loan sharks and such.

I won't cry for any Health Insurance execs who have to look for work. None of them cried for all the manufacturing jobs that "Centrist Democrats" sent overseas...and none of them cried when they made profits by denying sick people medical treatment.


Centrism SUCKS.
Reaching across the aisle in a spirit of healing SUCKS.
I am NOT interested in maintaining the Status Quo.
I will be willing to reach across the aisle when LABOR and the Working Class regain all the ground we have lost since Reagan.
THEN, I will be willing to discuss the the Status Quo.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[AtomicKitten]

7. Your scorched earth 'tude deems everything short of Kucinich "centrism."

That attitude renders you simply not credible, but does fuel your already hyped-up OTT POV.

[msongs]

5. is that like voting "present" you can't be held accountable? nt

[AtomicKitten]

8. "Squawk." nt

[midnight]

When John Edwards brings home the troops they are going

to need that Cheney care, so we would be wise to listen to John and start with the revamping of this gold mine.

[midnight]

3. When John Edwards brings home the troops they are going

to need that Cheney care, so we would be wise to listen to John and start with the revamping of this gold mine.

[sandnsea]

6. No, he doesn't think it's feasible and never has

Since we have the hodge podge we've got, he doesn't think it's feasible to think we can jump from here to single payer. That's very specifically what he said.

I'd think his verbal support of single payer would please people, but noooo, still find something to bash him about.

:crazy:

[featherman]

9. IMO all the DEM candidates actually believe that

single payer health care as the ultimate goal and just common sense for a modern industrial state. But no serious Democratic candidate can propose this "radical solution" to such a heavily propagandized populace in the current political climate. It's going to take a MUCH stronger DEM majority in Congress and some serious re-education before such a plan can be set in motion. So our candidates must dance around it with silly band-aid plans.
"Socialized medicine" is a bit of a third rail in American politics. We can only hope to change that cultural attitude and go for it when we have the votes and strength to pull if off.