It takes 2025 DELEGATES to become the nominee. Just think.....

[Ninga]

After all that money spent on the media and mailers in Iowa, all that time, and all of the noise of the caucus

(drum roll here please)

Delegate count:

Ob ama 18
Edwards 17
Clinton 16


Looks like a 3-way tie to me.

The M$M sure has a way of making things seem bigger than they are......and the gullible fall for it every time.

The M$M contols the pupet strings and we all hop around like good little wooden puppets....heads and arms and legs flapping

[AzDar]

1. Go, Johnny, GO!!!!

:patriot:

[Yael]

2. Don't forget Super Delegates.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/01/04/america/Democrats-Delegates.php

The Democratic National Committee has allotted states a total of 796 superdelegates to the party's national convention this summer. Those delegates, mainly members of Congress, other elected officials and DNC members, are free to support any candidate at the convention, regardless of the outcomes of the primaries and caucuses.

Most superdelegates contacted by the AP before the Iowa caucuses were undecided. However, among those who have endorsed a candidate, Clinton leads with 160, compared to 59 for Obama and 32 for former Sen. John Edwards.

[usregimechange]

3. frankly I think that is a bullshit usurpation of democracy.

[tekisui]

6. Agreed on that note.

No one, regardless of their job, should carry more weight than another. Much less as much weight as a percentage of the population.

[Yael]

7. No question. 40% of the needed count is beltway

[EVDebs]

8. ? The voting age population of IA= 2 million; NH= 1 million

California has suburbs of SF and LA greater than these states combined ! THAT is the true usurpation of democracy. That these little podunks get to decide who stays in the race and who doesn't. One man/woman, One vote.

[EVDebs]

4. THANK YOU, Ninga, The truth needs to be told. If not for the internet and DU

we'd be completely at M$M's mercy. There's still a chance to get the word out.

[Gman]

5. If Hillary does get eliminated, I'll never support Obama because of

the people that support him and their behavior. I'll go with Edwards.

[Yael]

9. We would be happy to have you

Thanks for your #2 support.

:hi:

[EVDebs]

10. Agreed. Edwards should stay in the race. CA, here we come ! nt

[Bitwit1234]

11. But but but but but Hillary has more than four times the number of delegates

Obama the Idoler has already...what in the hell are those little old 18

[Ninga]

13. dupe - sorry

[Ninga]

14. As of today, Hillary has won 16 delegates. Period. Edwards 17 and Obama 18.

2025 is a long way off.

[Forkboy]

15. You're a highly disturbed individual.

[Ninga]

16. Unless I am missing your sarcasam....the only delegates won so far have been the ones from Iowa.

[tammywammy]

20. You should really make this it's own thread

Very insightful.

[Occam Bandage]

12. Head, meet sand.

[asdjrocky]

17. Great post Ninga-

Don't ask for that deposit back on that room yet. We're going.

[Ninga]

18. Hi sweetie....yes......our room....with all the Edwardians stacked to the ceiling and plenty of ice

in the bath tub.

Good to hear from you.

:loveya:



:toast:



:hi:

[asdjrocky]

23. Great to be back.

I'll be in Reno the 16th through the 20th, doing what I can.

[Jai4WKC08]

19. I don't believe that's correct

According to my local paper (KC Star), Obama won 16 delegates, Hillary won 15, and Edwards 14. Those figures are corroborated at the CNN website.

Yes, you read that right. Even tho Edwards beat her in percentage of caucus-goers (by about a quarter of a percent), Hillary ended up beating him in number of delegates won. And that's what really counts.

Of course, if you count super-delegates, Hillary is ahead of both of 'em, but they won't mean jack if she doesn't win it in the primaries to come. And in fact, one or two delegates from any state don't really mean anything at all. A lot can happen between now and the convention.

[Cameron27]

21. Thanks Jai

[northzax]

25. individual caucuses are weighted

based on things like past participation. Different caucuses have different numbers of delegates to award. This is why caucuses suck as a way to determine anything. They make good theatre, but they are antiquated and undemocratic. Come on folks, it's 2008 already, fucking Russia has secret ballots, time for the democrats on Iowa to join the pack

[Infinite Hope]

22. K&R. [link inside]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3959514&mesg_id=3959514

[cascadiance]

24. If it continues to split this way, might we have a "brokered convention" with Al Gore entering in?

Just wondering... Al Gore seems to be out of it right now, but if it becomes obvious that there's no consensus pick by the convention, I wonder if he can be persuaded to enter in and be the nominee then...

[suston96]

26. Where did you get those numbers from?

From Iowa it's Obama 16 , Clinton 15 , Edwards 14.

Edit for link: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hY742M_s1ttD_ycf2Zusn1o1fD3QD8TV78A80

[Kucinich4America]

27. By the DLC's own standards, Hillary needs to drop out of the race NOW

In 2004, they demanded that Howard Dean quit the race after he finished third in Iowa. And never mind the delegate count either. In 2004, Kerry didn't actually overtake Dean in number of delegates until well into the primary season.

So, unless you want to admit that the DLC are a bunch of hypocrites, Hillary (and we all know they are).....

Pack up your carpetbag and go home. :)

[Kucinich4America]

28. By the DLC's own standards, Hillary needs to drop out of the race NOW

In 2004, they demanded that Howard Dean quit the race after he finished third in Iowa. And never mind the delegate count either. In 2004, Kerry didn't actually overtake Dean in number of delegates until well into the primary season.

So, unless you want to admit that the DLC are a bunch of hypocrites, Hillary (and we all know they are).....

Pack up your carpetbag and go home. :)