Can someone get me a link that proves that Hillary directed the Obama is a Muslim smear.

[xultar]

I need that.
Thanks.

[surfermaw]

1. Do you think there isn't one. I do!

[xultar]

3. Can you help me locate it?

[KennedyGuy]

2. Oh..don't be absurd..

that would require facts...

[mikelgb]

4. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3951492

[Lerkfish]

5. LOL!

so excellent.

[xultar]

8. Wow. Thanks Mike. I don't see that as proof. Good try though.

[goodhue]

6. Bob Kerrey

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/clinton-backer-bob-kerrey_b_77249.html

[xultar]

7. Doesn't that prove thta Kerrey is an ignorant fuck. If I were to judge Obama by some of his

supporters on DU..I'd have to say Obama is not fit to be the nom.

If you are going to judge one candidate by one standard you should judge them all on the same standard.

[KennedyGuy]

9. Can't do THAT..he's OBAMA!!!

[goodhue]

10. But Kerrey is not an ignorant fuck

Far from it. He knew exactly what he was doing, as did Clinton.

[xultar]

11. Ahh...she did it. She told him to say that. The most stupidest thing on the planet.

[goodhue]

12. Well it probably was Mark Penn, not Hillary

But certainly Kerrey's media appearances endorsing Hillary and saying oh by the way isn't it great Obama is Muslim were at the behest of the Clinton campaign. I agree it was a stupid thing to do.

[xultar]

15. I just can't believe after all the hoopla over that issue in the past. Anyone

would be so fucking dumb. If Hillary's team is so cut-throat...you'd have to say by inference they are smart.

CNN has done a show on that shit for god sake. It has been disproven numerous times. I think he may have meant to say of Muslim heritage. That would be true but a swipe none the less and still fucking stoopid.

I really think it means that Kerrey is ignorant cuz if Hill's team is as cut throat as you say they wouldn't be that dumb.

[goodhue]

17. I'm not sure if it is cut throat or dumb

But either way Kerrey was dispatched by the Clinton campaign to say what he said on national TV.

[Auntie Bush]

30. Do you have a link for that?

Or is it just your own gut feeling that's been posted as fact?

[goodhue]

35. The link is from the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/clinton-backer-bob-kerrey_b_77249.html

[Kucinich4America]

38. So you believe it's "smart" of Team Hillary to exploit the racist bias of idiots to gain votes??

Tell me I just read that wrong :wtf:

[Catherine Vincent]

16. Yes, he sure did.

Kerrey can't stand the Clinton's. He did it for a reason.

[goodhue]

18. Kerrey endorsed Clinton

And that is why he got on TV, and talked about Obama being of muslim background

[xultar]

19. But he is of Muslim background. That isn't bad. If Obama can't take that now

after the nom he'll fold like a deck chair.

[goodhue]

20. It may not be bad, but it was a smear

[Jai4WKC08]

21. How can something "not be bad" and be a smear?

C'mon folk. The Repubs are the ones circulating an e-mail that calls Obama a Muslim. This isn't Clinton's doing.

Sheesh.

[goodhue]

23. when it is not true, and plays on racist jingoism

from the link posted above in response to OP . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/clinton-backer-bob-kerrey_b_77249.html

While campaigning on behalf of Hillary Clinton this week, former Senator Bob Kerrey became the fourth Clinton supporter this month to raise a false smear against Barack Obama, one of her main rivals for the Democratic nomination. Adopting the bigoted language of lies that have circulated about Obama on the Internet, Kerrey falsely implied that Obama attended an Islamist school; falsely said that Obama had "chosen" to be Christian; and falsely claimed Obama was repelled by his own middle name. Obama is actually a life-long Christian and a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. In January, CNN debunked the smears against him, reporting that allegations that he "was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a 'madrassa' are not accurate." In October, The Nation's Chris Hayes traced how false emails about Obama have gained traction online.

The smears come after several other dirty tricks from Clinton backers were exposed this month. Last week, Clinton Campaign Co-Chair Bill Shaheen falsely implied that Obama had a drug problem or possibly dealt drugs, while Clinton Campaign Pollster Mark Penn repeated similar charges on MSNBC. After over 24 hours of criticism, the Clinton Campaign announced that Shaheen made the personal decision "to step down" because the comments were unauthorized. On Monday, however, Clinton said that actually "we asked him to step down." Earlier this month, two volunteer chairs resigned from the Clinton Campaign after sending emails lying about Obama's religion, while a third Clinton volunteer was on the same email chain.

Yet Kerrey's comments are distinct because he is the highest level Clinton supporter to publicly push the Muslim smears against Obama, and he is also ratcheting up the rhetoric. In a series of high profile interviews, Kerrey has gone out of his way to cover every aspect of the smears - saying "Muslim," "madrassa," "Hussein" and that Obama chose Christianity - and also raising traitorous language. Pressed about his comments on CNN, Kerrey purported to distance himself from the very smear campaign he was advancing: "There is a smear campaign going on. And people are acting as if he's an Islamic Manchurian candidate." That phrase only turns up 29 hits on Google, however, and nine of the references quote Kerrey. So very few "people are acting" or saying that - unless they're discussing Kerrey's sly effort to raise the line of attack.

In a Sunday interview with ABC, Kerrey offered some bizarre advice on ads Obama "should" run. "There's this nonsense out there about him being a Muslim Manchurian candidate. He should do a commercial, look the camera straight in the eye, and say, 'My wife Michelle and I are Christians, but my father was a Muslim and my paternal grandfather was a Muslim, and that fact and my name means I can speak to a billion people around the world..." Apparently, Kerrey thinks people will believe that as an experienced pol, his strategy to dispel a "Muslim Manchurian" smear is to run ads that say "Muslim" more often than "Christian."

[Jai4WKC08]

32. But what Kerrey said was true

And was actually very complimentary. I happen to think he was sincere. I have heard he's a pretty stand-up guy.

Fwiw, and regardless of what you think he may have meant, there was no racism involved.. Islam is a religion, not a race. There are LOTS of white people who are Muslims in the world, as well as every other race, and have been for almost as long as Islam has been around.

[goodhue]

37. Kerry falsely said Obama had attended a muslim school, and had chosen to be Christian

Kerrey falsely implied that Obama attended an Islamist school; falsely said that Obama had "chosen" to be Christian; and falsely claimed Obama was repelled by his own middle name. Obama is actually a life-long Christian and a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. In January, CNN debunked the smears against him, reporting that allegations that he "was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a 'madrassa' are not accurate."

[Jai4WKC08]

39. I thought it was Christian doctrine that everyone chooses to be a Christian

As for the madrassa, I believe that was the proper word for it. Kerry never said it was radical or Islamist. I don't remember him saying anything about Obama's being "repelled" by his middle name either.

I heard what he said. Maybe I didnt' hear all of it, but only what was broadcast? I dunno; it's possible. But what I heard Kerrey say was NOT insulting in the least. What's more, I tend to think anyone who wouldn't vote for Obama because what Kerrey said, would not vote for him for the simple fact that he is black. And no one needs to be told that.

Hint: they won't vote for Clinton either.

[goodhue]

40. I'm not Christian and am not familiar with Christian doctrine

The point of the smear is to falsely suggest Obama has a muslim past.

[grace0418]

29. It's not bad to be a liberal, but people use that label as a smear all the time.

It's the tone and the context.

[Jai4WKC08]

31. Ok, that's a good point

'Course, I think it only became a smear because we liberals let it.

[grace0418]

36. Absolutely. I totally agree. I know more than a few people who *are* liberal but

hate to be *called* liberal because of the "negative" connotation.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. And he endorsed them for a reason.

Hatred runs deep.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. I Used To Post On The ESPN NBA Board

I had this long argument with this poster back in 4/07 about Obama's religion...This rumor has been out there a long time...

[Cameron27]

14. You won't get one,

but it doesn't matter. Every rumor, smear or gossipy innuendo will be believed as long as it's about Hillary Clinton.

[MethuenProgressive]

22. It's been posted more than once on DU by his supporters - so it *must* be true.

:shrug:

[robbedvoter]

25. I remember Faux having a field day with it long before the actual primaries started

The whole "madrasa" thing was being spit and re-spit before people even knew who's running in this race.

[ronnykmarshall]

26. I'd like to see that mother fucker too!

I had to cuss, cuz I know you like to as well, mother fucker!

[BenDavid]

27. You want receive any link. Just like the supporters of Obama

trying to blame the Clintons for playing the race card, and then saying the Clintons were anti-muslims....Throwing mud in hopes it sticks and some un-educated person will believe it and this is what obama campaign is trying as well....If you listen to obama new speeches you will hear him making oblique reference to the race card.Historical illustrations chosen by Obama's speech writers are race-related. That can be no accident. One illustration blatantly promotes revisionist history. Abraham Lincoln resisted Confederate succession with force of arms not to free the slaves, but to save the Union. Putting aside whether it yields him the votes to win the nomination, is there anything worthy of criticism with regard to Senator Barak Obama's somewhat oblique playing of the race card? As a well informed citizen, that's for you to answer.

[MethuenProgressive]

28. Snopes.com doesn't mention Clinton at all.

FOX News.

[IndianaJones]

33. here is a thread researching that very topic...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3951492&mesg_id=3951492

[babylonsister]

34. I've never seen anywhere that said Clinton specifically directed

her volunteer staffers to send it out, but they did:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/second-clinton-volunteer-_n_76047.html