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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:45 AM
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GIULIANI: Rudy? He’s in Florida
In case, like me, you were wondering where Rudy was and why he didn't come out to play

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/friday/nation/ny-usjani045524720jan04,0,917296.story

MIAMI

Rudy Giuliani came through here for a quick overnight trip to show where he plans to start winning the presidency - in three weeks.

Sure, this sounds a bit funny. And, of course, his rivals deemed the tactic of blowing off Iowa, and trying to downplay New Hampshire, as weird and risky. And naturally, he and his campaign tout it as a great blow to conventional wisdom. But then, what's a Giuliani campaign without an emotion-laced test of who is right, who is wrong, who is smart, and who is worthy?


Giuliani set out well in advance to spin his losses in the first few primary states by playing up the contest here Jan. 29. He has been assuring supporters he can hold his lead in big states while other candidates, he hopes, cancel each other out elsewhere. And so he broke off from New Hampshire for Hialeah, in the heart of the Cuban-American greater Miami area, to address 150 supporters.


Giuliani adviser Brent Seaborn declared in a memo released to the news media several days ago that "history will prove us right." Seaborn called the tactic of downplaying the opening-state contests "bold, innovative and designed to deal with the radically different election calendar."
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:50 AM
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1. He's promoting his new campaign video ...
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:54 AM
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2. Rudy Toot Toot versus Huckabee
It should be very interesting to see how Giuliani plays against Mike Huckabee in the Florida primaries. As fed up as I am with the sort of southern conservative who ran the Republic into the ground from 2001 to the present, I am still aware enough to realize that Huckabee still has a strong appeal for culturally Southern and evangelical sectarians that Giuliani can't match.

I don't know enough about Florida demographics in general or demographics of Florida conservatives in particular to know if the strains of "Dixie" and the Southern Baptist Convention's Seal of Good Housekeeping are enough to overwhelm Giuliani's 9/11 drum-thumpng or his tough-guy speechifying.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:58 AM
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3. I still say it is going to be McCain
I think in the end they settle on the only one with any real chance of winnnig and that chance is razor thin
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:18 AM
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4. Florida is not a "southern" state.
Part of the state, the panhandle, definitely is southern, but from Orlando all the way to Miami and Key West, is where the population majority is, and there is very little southern influence there.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:27 AM
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5. A lot of transplanted New Yorkers
and people from the Northeast in Florida. I am, unfortunately, one right now. Rudy is trying to court these people. He is here right now and running a lot of TV ads promoting security and safety issues.

It will probably be a close race between him and Huckabee who will get the Southern evangelical base.

However, I am more worried that my vote in this state's Democratic Primary will not count. If I can, I will be voting for Obama. No, I am not a Hillary hater. I just prefer Obama. I lived through Hillary for 6 years and she was a disappointment.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:09 AM
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6. Read the quotes in the lead post ...
"history will prove us right."

"bold, innovative and designed to deal with the radically different election calendar."

This is the same Rovian Lexicon that was used to promote and push Bushco into the WH and drive their agenda for 6 years ... I know people are hating on Huckabee, but flat out, THE scariest R is Rudy ...

Both CNN and Fox had Rudy on live last night ... WHY in the would would any LEGIT media operation have on live a candidate, the evening of that states caucus, who literally completely blew off campaigning in that state ???
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:02 AM
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9. Two great points
Those are "thousand year" statements ala Rove

Also-they had Rudy on? Geesh and Edwards TODAY is getting at best negative coverage --with a live appearance too-I read here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3948461
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:17 AM
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7. The ONLY tv ads I've seen here are Rudy's.
Paul has billboards, but in my area they're very few and far between.

Odd strategy, considering that the thugs got stripped of half their Florida delegates. Maybe he's hoping for a big snowbird turnout for him.
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:59 AM
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8. Hey, I'd be in Florida too...
If I had no chance at the nomination. Too freakin cold in Iowa!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:05 AM
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10. getting all the Diebold machines set for the primaries to come...eh, Brent?
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:13 AM
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11. Rudy registers in Iowa. Campaigns a lil' in Iowa, and places 6th
in iowa I believe and the media is giving Rudy a free ride and not making it a big deal that he lost Iowa. Whereas the same mediawhores have reported I would venture to say all through the night and into this morning about HRC placing third in Iowa. Campaigning hard in Iowa and using their made up by them "theory of inevitability" against her. Yes, I am sad that HRC did not do as good as we all hoped, but do I now jump on the obama bandwagon? HELL NO! That is just 1 state out of 49 and I will support HRC "till the last dog dies".

I still say no obama supporter has shown me after n.h. just where he is to get a majority of delegates to win. Sure the polls will change in states but not so that obama takes the lead. I give him illinois on the 5th of february but tell me where else he wins. I still say HRC will either by the 19th of feb or at the latest march 4th have a majority of delegates.....

Ben David
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