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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:26 PM
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What is a suspended campaign?
I don't know why it is so hard for some to understand, since it is very simple. Dean did not withdraw from the race, he suspended his campaign.

What does this mean? He DOES NOT expect to win, and WILL NOT campaign toward that goal. He WILL NOT withdraw his name from the ballots either. He doesn't expect to win any state, but will not release his delegates yet. If you remember previous conventions, candidates do not release their delegates until they address them a few days before the convention.

Some people here always have to make a comment like "he's out" when someone says they voted for Dean. Yes... he's out of the race for the Presidency, but he's not out of the race for delegates. It is unlikely he will be able to break the 15% barrier in most states, but since he won't be using any more energy, what's the problem??

No one is saying he will win the Presidency... he's just shooting for a few more delegates.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:32 PM
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1. Personally I expect Dean to have his delegates cast their votes
for him at the convention. The message would be that he indeed did stay in it until the end.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:37 PM
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2. it's a vanity thing....
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:42 PM
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4. No... that we he has more influence on the platform...
In 2000 McCain also suspended his campaign... Lieberman also did. Is it vanity in their cases too?
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:46 PM
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5. LOL.. of course it was.....
Its being in denial about losing... its when you lose your ass .. but cant face it.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:50 PM
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6. No it's not!
you really don't get it, do you?

He ACCEPTS HE IS NOT WINNING. He is not in denial of anything! He KNOWS he is NOT going to be the candidate. What is wrong with wanting a little more influence??
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:03 PM
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7. He has not EARNED ANY influence..
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 08:04 PM by zwade
He won nothing.. he was crushed in the elections.. what influence has he earned? He didnt outlast Sharpton or Kucinich. He went home crying to mommy.

GOOOOOOOOOOOO KERRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYY

Now Kerry has EARNED influence. Edwards EARNED influence. They earned it by at least winning something.

Dr. Dean can go back to treating foot fungus.

I consider him a quiter and a whiner.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:07 PM
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8. Yes, he did earn some delegates in early states...
whether you like it or not... that doesn't matter.

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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:11 PM
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9. yeah, he got 4% of the delegates
so let him talk for like 40 seconds.. but medicate him first... so the convention is not a laughing stock.


YEAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:17 PM
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10. I'm going to be my own moderator...
and for the first time, include someone in my ignore list.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 05:10 AM
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19. Just joined you in that.
That guy makes me want to :puke:

I think I might start doing that for a few more people.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 06:36 AM
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21. Not me! I'm a proctologist!
I like looking at assholes.
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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:18 PM
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11. He didn't quit
The voters fired him!



And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:24 PM
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12. and I consider you pretty $%^&* rude
nt
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:30 AM
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15. No, it's not a denial thing. It's about having a voice in the platform
The person who started this thread is right about this.

Dean is within his rights to do this. And Dean supporters have a right to support it, vocally and with their votes.

People need to back off on this. The Dean's are right on this.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:35 AM
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17. If only some of your fellow Kerry supporters were this respectful.
And I say this as a Kucinich supporter - Dean wasn't my guy. The actions and attitudes of some Kerry supporters here are pathetic.

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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:37 AM
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18. Don't get me wrong, there's a few of "them" I'd like to throttle
This guy is getting piled on unjustly.
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:32 AM
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16. Nope, arcos is right. It's to have a voice in the platform based on
delegates. Dean has every right to do so.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:42 PM
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3. He probably won't win any more delegates
except maybe in VT.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:25 PM
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13. You say he didn't win anything????
Why then have the remaining 2 candidates adopted a lot of his talking points? He earned credit for making all the candidates find their ba*ls for openly fight Bush! Before Dean, they were mealymouthed whimps.

You're right, he's not going to win the nomination, and I'm not going to vote for him on Super Tuesday, but all must give him the credit he's earned.
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Exgeneral Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 05:47 PM
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25. He won several in Idaho last night
funny, you don't see that in the news.......
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:24 AM
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14. kick n/t
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 05:12 AM
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20. Thank you for saying this.
It needed to be said.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 10:39 AM
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22. Being in Dean is never having to say you're dropping out.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:19 AM
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23. They all have a message so they hang in there.
All the candidates not at the top winning...even Nader have a messsage they want to get out to the people.

I'm not sure it's bad. It does force the leaders to adjust their agenda a bit. The Progressive Party never had a President but it certainly influenced great reforms in government at the turn of the last century. We could use that now.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 05:35 PM
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24. kick n/t
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