MSNBC: Finneman says that this is the end of the Clinton era

[Joe the Revelator]

Interesting spin on the large change numbers.

I may have got the guys name wrong, but he's from Newsweek.

[Roland99]

1. Fine with me. Bill was a corporatist. Listen to Chomsky on Bill.

And Hillary was going to be any different?

[Jackpine Radical]

2. As in Howie the Duck?

[Joe the Revelator]

I hate the cutsey names.

[Colobo]

3. Amen!

[kstewart33]

4. Yep, it's Fineman. He's jumping the gun abit.

In the heat of Obama's victory, he's overstating things a bit. If she loses NH and SC, she's done. But that's not happened, at least not yet.

[Captain Hilts]

5. Fineman hated Bill Clinton from the get-go. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

6. The spin is what matters. Its like what happened after the illegal immigrant debate question

[Poiuyt]

7. There's a long way to go

Obama may very well get the nomination, but Clinton still has the lead in a lot of the big states

[Thrill]

8. He seems fascinated by Obama

[Zookeeper]

9. I'm not a Clinton supporter, but Howie Finneman is an ass.

I grew quite tired of his smug (and stupid) pronouncements in 2004.

Edited to finish my sentence. :blush:

[Ikonoklast]

10. Yeah, that was an interesting take

I wonder if Hillary really resonates with the younger voters...NBC saying 57% of the youth vote went for Obama.

IF they turn out in big numbers in NH, could get interesting.

[speedoo]

11. He just laid out a scenario in which Obama takes NH and than SC.

And maybe even Nevada.

Fineman was very impressed with Obama's speech tonight but more importantly the "new generation" of young supporters flocking to Obama and his effective campaign organization. Lots of independents in New Hampshire.... check for Obama. Lots of blacks in South Carolina waiting to see if whites would vote for Obama... check for Obama. All the unions in Nevada waiting to decide who to endorse, well they ain't gonna endorse Clinton now, so that becomes a race between Obama and Edwards.

It really could happen.

[K Gardner]

12. Fineman looked absolutely awestruck at Obama's speech.. as he should have been :-)

[Joe the Revelator]

13. I think most voters who saw it were

nt

[K Gardner]

14. Yes, I know I was. Waiting for the replay on You Tube !

[BenDavid]

18. you never under estimate a clinton when it comes to politics and

I would not be jumping for joy just yet. I do congratulate Obama on a great win. Very impressive I must say, but lets say for the sake of it that obama does win n.h and then s.c. where to then? Super tuesday, and out of this list where does obama win, except maybe illinois...

Alabama 60 Primary
Alaska 18 Caucus
Arizona 67 Primary
Arkansas 47 Primary
California 441 Primary
Colorado 71 Caucus
Connecticut 60 Primary
Delaware 23 Primary
Georgia 103 Primary
Idaho 23 Caucus
Illinois 185 Primary
Kansas 41 Caucus
Massachusetts 121 Primary
Minnesota 88 Caucus
Missouri 88 Primary
New Jersey 127 Primary
New Mexico 38 Caucus
New York 281 Primary
North Dakota 21 Caucus
Oklahoma 47 Primary
Tennessee 85 Primary
Utah 29 Primary

I still say either by February 19th the earliest and March 4th the lastest HRC will have a majority of delegates to be the nominee.

Ben David

[dailykoff]

15. The Reagan-Bush-Clinton era.

And praise betty for that.

[jefferson_dem]

16. Please. Let it be so.

n/t

[Fleshdancer]

17. The most important Fineman quote:

"It's hard to know now who, if anyone, in the media has any credibility."
Howard Fineman

[peoli]

19. oh wow, nice quote

[Imagevision]

20. Obama: Well, Hillary, I'm looking forward to you advising me as well. (Laughter) ....

Looking forward to Hillary returning to her day job.