So Why I'm voting For Hillary......Virgin Post....

[msanthrope]

Kept my Powder Dry until tonight.....I wanted to hear all, see all, absorb all....

And I'm voting for Hillary.

'Cause I'm 38 years old, and I'm just tired of waiting for all the men to fix it all....

'Cause I'm old enough to remember the peace and prosperity of the 90's.

'Cause the the whole Donnie McClurkin thang left a sour taste in my mouth.... (Bye Obama)

'Cause Al Gore won 2000--he divided NOTHING...... (Bye Obama--don't diss Al, Barack!!!)

'Cause Edwards will make a great VP choice....(Damn, he will!!!)

And if he won't, I'll take Richardson or Dodd...(either one, good VP)

And if not them, then Clark (damn I miss him!!!)

'Cause she's bulletproof....the Swiftboaters??? She will chew 'em up spit 'em out.....for like breakfast.....

'Cause Bill's gonna be "Mr. President" with panache......


And if it's not her, then I'M GONNA RUN MY ASS OFF FOR THE DEM CANDIDATE---LEST I FIND MYSELF WITH ANOTHER FREAK/REPUBLICAN/CHRISTOFASCIST POS......

[DemKR]

1. u go girl! n/t

[still_one]

2. You are entitled to your views, and I am entitled to mine /nt

[Joe the Revelator]

3. Not to pick, but a lot of your reasons for voting for Hillary involve your love for Bill...

You do understand that he's not running, right?

[msanthrope]

5. Umm, I don't 'love' Bill...and it's your type of male condescension

that reminds me why gender is a factor in this election.....and why I should consider the candidate who doesn't think that my vote comes down to 'love.'

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Oh you're on of these...never mind carry on

I'll just go to my man corner and remain inferior and stupid. :eyes:

[msanthrope]

13. Okay. n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

16. Yes, please do Wolsh.

:spank:

[Joe the Revelator]

20. Who's the "HO" you're supporting?

If I'm going to be accused of it, I might as well act the part.

Actually, I'm really curious about your sig.

[Clintonista2]

68. I thought you were heading over to your corner

Standing in the corner requires you to STFU

[laugle]

10. Touche!! Geez....that was snarky..............

[TheWraith]

23. How is that male condescension? Doesn't everybody love Bill?

I certainly do. Or are you simply the sort of person who likes taking offense?

[David Dunham]

4. Very good reasons. Hillary also not GOP-soundbite Obama

[annie1]

6. Hillary '08!!!!!!!!! and may she run with clark so all your '08 dreams can come true.

[Auntie Bush]

57. Then my dreams would cone true too. What a dream team that would be! n/t

[annie1]

58. i think this country would go crazy for a hil / clark ticket.

[Auntie Bush]

62. Yes, It would be guaranteed unbeatable ticket!

However if Hillary wins...I'm afraid she might pick Vilsack and I don't know him but he seems kind of boring...not inspirational like Clark. I heard that somewhere and I hope it isn't true.

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[Joe the Revelator]

11. *clap clap*

I love seeing hypocrisy shot down.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. Got deleted so obviously some people can't handle the truth. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

18. What? Why was that post deleted? What rule was broken there?

Thats complete an utter bullshit.

[Catherine Vincent]

31. bwahaha!!

[Joe the Revelator]

35. HAHA what are we laughing at?

[Catherine Vincent]

47. Because a post was deleted that you applauded.

(snicker) :)

[msanthrope]

19. Got deleted 'cause maybe it ain't the truth??? Or maybe DU

is part of the GOP/FReeper/Skinner conspiracy???? (Kidding, Skinner, of course....)

[mrreowwr_kittty]

25. What I posted was true.

Harold Mayberry and Darrell Jackson are homophobic preachers, who have made bigotted statements in public.

Mayberry endorsed her. This was considered quite a score for Sen. Clinton, as he is prominent in his community.

Jackson is a preacher and SC State Rep who is Clinton's co-chair and a $10000 a month consultant.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. I think it should be reposted as its own thread

If they can keep the racist shit from DemR open, then there is no reason to close yours.

[JackBeck]

9. Because she will continue the BCCI cover-up?

:shrug:

[JohnnyLib2]

14. Spoken like a ..... real voter.

:thumbsup: :kick:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

Harold Mayberry. Darrell Jackson.

Homophobes.

$10000 a month in consulting fees for Jackson.

Hypocrisy.

[msanthrope]

Could you show me the link??? n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

26. You can Google. Everyone knows this shit by now.

Anyone who is so incensed about McClurkin better know it, unless they want to admit they didn't bother to check into any of the other candidates' ties.

[msanthrope]

34. Incensed??? Never used that word----

The thing about McClurkin is not just disgust at the sentiment--it is disgusting, without a doubt....


However, on a very pragmatic front, it reveals to me who Obama thinks is more important. And it ain't the people I wanna hang with......I'm simply not gonna vote for a candidate who actively embraces sexual repression.

[Joe the Revelator]

37. And yet you're voting for Hillary

Talk about laughable.

[msanthrope]

42. Yes. I am. Proud to. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

48. Proud to be a hypocrite? Thats awesome...

and says a lot about the type of support Hillary has.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

76. Hypocrites and old racists. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

32. Heres a start

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02152007/news/nationalnews/shocking_200g_hill_deal_nationalnews_maggie_haberman.htm

[msanthrope]

38. Indeed..one should really take the NEW YORK POST as a credible source....

Jeebus............

[mrreowwr_kittty]

43. Oh now the link's not good enough.

Whatevs. :eyes:

[Joe the Revelator]

45. You're out of your mind and just avoiding facts for the shit of it.

Keep up the good work!

[msanthrope]

49. Umm....Dude---the day a DU'er need defend against

an NYPOST article, or a FOX NEWS STORY, or WORLD NET DAILY ARTICLE is the day this
website ought to hang it the fuck up.

Really. Although you might think it HUGH, or SERIES.....

Jeebus. You gotta do better than this....

[Joe the Revelator]

50. Ummm... Dude....there is a plethora of information out there on this

If you don't like the article I posted, you should check yourself, since you try to pretend that you're all informed or stuff.

[msanthrope]

52. So I should do your research for you???

Sloppy, sloppy--not a liberal arts education, eh???

[Joe the Revelator]

54. I'm not the one thats uninformed

You talk a big game, but get tripped up by the facts. Its fun to watch though, so keep it up.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

77. No, it's YOUR responsibility to research candidates YOU support

You haven't.

[msanthrope]

24. Could you show me the link??? n/t

[Just-plain-Kathy]

15. Bill didn't hold Papa Bush accountable for his bogus war and Hillary will let *w* & dick walk.

Bill gave us NAFTA!! The Iraqi Liberation Act!! After Papa Bush handed our military over to Halliburton, Clinton kept it that way!! He advised our senators to sign the IWR!! His Telecommunications Act consolidated our media!!!! ....Pardons!!!

It drives me crazy to see people here (at a place where I think smart people gather) support the wife of a president who was impeached.

Whitewater, treating the White House like it was a motel. Hidden documents!!! ...By no means should Hillary be our president!! ...We’re lead around like sheep by our corporate owned media!!

[Arugula Latte]

29. Not to mention "Welfare Reform"

which drove countless people into desperate situations...

As they say, Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we've had.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

39. We are so screwed. Our democracy is just an illusion, it's a show that makes our media rich. ..n/t

[RC]

17. Hillary will continue bu$h's war against the Iraqis

and the American people. With politicians like Hillary in high places, who needs enemy's?

[msanthrope]

21. Proof????

[TheWraith]

22. "the whole Donnie McClurkin thang"?

May I ask what you think the "McClurkin thang" constituted?

[msanthrope]

27. I think not just the PR headlining of the event---not just

the newspapers, or advertisements in local church circulars, nor the radio ads.....

it was the allowance of the Obama camp to let him M.C. the event, and have an open mike....the unfettered mike with the unchecked commentary on the "ex-gay" lifestyle...and the later refusal to eschew the commentary.

It's not just the message--it's the unseasoned approach to this that makes me hesitate...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

30. So much better to have a homophobe advising the candidate, eh? nt

[TheWraith]

36. I think you need to reexamine the actual events, rather than the spin.

McClurkin didn't "M.C." the event, and he didn't make any comments on homosexuality there. He was a performer only. And the Obama campaign did publicly disagree with McClurkin's views.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

44. Oh now stop making sense. Can't have that here. nt

[msanthrope]

46. I think I examined the events just fine--In part, I relied on

GLBT community here. And resoundingly, I think their analysis of events was far more credible than the PR spokespeople from the Obama campaign----

Indeed, could you tell me why I should not believe the community here?? But should believe the Obama spokespeople???

[BenDavid]

33. The one reason I am supporting HRC and will vote for HRC is

she actually wants to win. Now how refreshing is that compared to 2000 and 2004 and I believe this is why many folks hate her becasue HRC wants to win and become President....

Ben David

[JackBeck]

40. So let me get this straight:

You claim that 1) Gore and Kerry did not want to win, and 2) Gore and Kerry did not win?

[jgraz]

51. Also that all the other candidates are just running cuz they're bored.

:eyes:

[JackBeck]

56. For realz?

I figured they were all slumming for a Bohemian Grove invite.

Silly me.

[msanthrope]

41. Indeed--there's a fire in her belly that I don't see wth any

other candidate.....and she'll kick the crap out of the opposition.

[Laurab]

53. Oh, she is NOT bulletproof - they're just waiting

the repukes are drooling over the thought of Hillary winning the primary - and no, I can't show you proof, but it should be obvious. She will get-out-the-vote like no other, except it will be for the wrong party. For reasons I don't understand, she is as hated by much of the right as gwb is by us. She doesn't deserve it, he worked hard to earn it, but it's fact.

In fact, I hope we don't have to see what happens if she wins the primary - it would be ugly. I fear that if she won the presidency, our country would remain as divided as it is today, and she wouldn't be able to get much done. I prefer any one of the dem candidates to HRC just because of the polarization factor. Lately I've been feeling better about it, because I don't think she's going to win.

I do like your last line though - I intend to do the same, no matter who wins.

[msanthrope]

59. You know, I reject the idea we should run a candidate who

doesn't piss off the Republicans....at least, not toooooo much......

If nothing else, Hillary brings out the absolute WORST in the GOP....and in a way, if we use it just right, that's something to gain.......

Let 'em froth. Let 'em scream. Pop the corn.............

[Laurab]

65. I understand what you're saying

but, I'm afraid it would be too much - and we won't use it just right, either. Any dem will piss off the GOP, I don't think we have to worry about that, but for some reason, Hillary is hated with a passion, even after all these years. I don't understand it, and I don't think she did anything to earn it, but it's there nonetheless.

Yeah, it would be kind of fun for a few minutes if she won, but I really want someone in there who will be able to get things done, and not be fought at every turn. I just want my country back.

May the best man or woman win.....

[jgraz]

55. No offense, but your reasons are a bit thin

'Cause I'm 38 years old, and I'm just tired of waiting for all the men to fix it all....

How will Hillary's gender make her better at "fixing it all"?


'Cause I'm old enough to remember the peace and prosperity of the 90's.

And Hillary did what to bring that about?


'Cause the the whole Donnie McClurkin thang left a sour taste in my mouth.... (Bye Obama)

Hillary's not the only alternative to Barack.


'Cause Al Gore won 2000--he divided NOTHING...... (Bye Obama--don't diss Al, Barack!!!)

See above.


'Cause Edwards will make a great VP choice....(Damn, he will!!!)

He'll make an even better 'P' choice. Either way, it's not a reason to vote for Hillary


And if he won't, I'll take Richardson or Dodd...(either one, good VP)

Still not a reason to support Clinton.


And if not them, then Clark (damn I miss him!!!)

Lather, rinse, repeat.


'Cause she's bulletproof....the Swiftboaters??? She will chew 'em up spit 'em out.....for like breakfast.....

Like she did to Giuliani when he slammed her $5000/child idea? Oh wait...she just caved in without a peep.


'Cause Bill's gonna be "Mr. President" with panache......

Um...yeah. :eyes:


And if it's not her, then I'M GONNA RUN MY ASS OFF FOR THE DEM CANDIDATE---LEST I FIND MYSELF WITH ANOTHER FREAK/REPUBLICAN/CHRISTOFASCIST POS......

I truly hope you get the chance to run your ass off for another candidate. ;)

[msanthrope]

60. I might see you on the 2008 "Insert Dem Candidate Campaign"

We have no argument!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sparkly]

61. The ATTACKS here are just AMAZING!!

Sheesh people -- respect other people's rights to make up their own minds, even if you disagree with them!!

[JohnnyLib2]

63. Seconded.

:banghead:

[Cameron27]

74. Thirded

[Think82]

64. I noticce you didn't mention BIDEN. Is that because he's better? You have no defense?

[WheelWalker]

71. Doesn't want to invoke truth to power, lest someone cry,

"Help me, I'm MELTING!"

[emilyg]

66. Bravo!!!!

[Lord Helmet]

67. Bill Won't Be "Mr. President"

In fact, he won't be anything if Hillary wins. Just like how she wasn't anything when he was president.

[EvilAL]

70. He'll be the First Gentleman

[avrdream]

72. And First Gentleman is also good enough for me.

I, too, have lots of reasons for voting for Hill - primarily because I know she has the guts to take on Healthcare reform - but I think it is icing on the cupcake to have Bill as an adviser. Those were good times for Americans in my shoes and I know without a doubt that Hillary feels very similarly to Bill on those same issues.

I don't have that same "without a doubt" feeling about any other candidate running.

Enough said for me.

[Clintonista2]

69. K&R!!!!!!!!!!

[Beacool]

73. Great post!!!

Don't let the negativity of some spoil the moment. Hillary will be a great president!!! Win or lose tomorrow, she will still be our nominee. I trust that super Tuesday will tip the scale her way.

Go Hillary!!!!!!!

[Cameron27]

75. K&R

Look at her record and it stacks up against anyone else running.

[JDPriestly]

78. She has too many negatives -- voters who say they will not

vote for her no matter what -- to get elected.

She talks out of both sides of her mouth.

She is arrogant.

She is bitter.

That she is a woman is no guarantee that she is a liberal or wise. Maggie Thatcher was a woman.

We can do better than Hillary.

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