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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:07 PM Original message |
Why Obama Will Win Iowa...It's the youth vote stupid, under-represented in polls |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hmmmm I thought it was the youth vote that was going to put Kerry in |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Actually, they showed up in greater numbers than ever before. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Well, Kerry didn't exactly energize my generation the way Obama has... |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. yeah right |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Neat pictures, but... |
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NavyDavy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. yeah kerry is so like Bush...idiot |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Where did I say that Kerry was in any way like Bush? |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. That was my first thought, too, BW. eom |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Kerry was yesterday, it's a new ballgame with continued Bush bullsh8T...! |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. I heard they showed up to vote |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not to piss on the parade but the youth vote seems to be pretty unreliable |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The only way they would get out and vote would be if they had a military draft! |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Interesting tidbit |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Perhaps an inspiring, charismatic candidate who reaches out to young people... |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. And maybe that candidate is Obama |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Out until January 22. Campaigns were encouraging students to caucus at home, if they are from Iowa. |
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KingofNewOrleans (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. The youth vote isn't underrepresented in polls |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. If all you have is a cell phone, you are not included in the sampling frame for most polls. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. A Good Pollster Is Going To Match His Results To The Census |
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KingofNewOrleans (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Exactly, so they keep |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. But in doing so, have they skewed their results? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Good point. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. There Are Studies About That |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. If Obama actually does have the secret formula that gets young people to the polls |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. It has worked before though -- McGovern's primary win was definitely a youth movement. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. We hear the same thing every 4 years... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. You're right, SaveElmer. We've been over this before. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. Youths are underrepresented at the polls but they are even more underrepresented at the ballot boxes |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. The "youth vote" seems concentrated in the urban areas. |
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NavyDavy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. there underrated and also don't show up half the time....period |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. He is campaigning like a Republican |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. They said the same thing about Dean/youth vote in '04 |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. Heard it all before |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
33. He may. But if he is the candidate, and if McCain |
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