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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:44 AM
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Dowd rips Hillary (and Michelle Obama) in her last pre-Iowa caucus piece
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 01:46 AM by antiimperialist
Maureen Dowd's piece is out:

Has Hillary truly changed, and grown from her mistakes? Has she learned to be less stubborn and imperious and secretive and vindictive and entitled? Or has she merely learned to mask her off-putting and self-sabotaging qualities better? If elected, would the old Hillary pop up, dragging us back to the dysfunctional Clinton kingdom? She is speaking in a soft, measured voice in these final days, so that, as with Daisy Buchanan, you have to lean in to listen. But is she really different than she was in the years when she was so careless about the people around her getting hurt by the Clinton legal whirlwind that she was dubbed the Daisy Buchanan of the boomer set?


she was less harsh on Michell Obama, but said she thinks the Obama's are "owed" someething.

Oddly, Barack and Michelle Obama also radiate a sense that they are owed. Not for a lifetime of sublimation and humiliation, but for this onerous campaign, for offering themselves up to save and uplift the nation, even though it disrupted their comfortable lives.

Michelle told Vanity Fair that Americans would have only one chance to anoint her husband, vowing “it’s now or never” and explaining “there’s an inconvenience factor there” and a “really, really hard” pressure and stress on the family that can only be justified if her husband can win the presidency and “change the world.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02dowd.html?hp
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:47 AM
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1. Much as I'd like to accept Maureen's help here, I must decline - on the grounds that
she's a lying piece of RNC filth.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:49 AM
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3. Help? You wish. She called Edwards' anti-corporate message a "rant"
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 01:49 AM by antiimperialist
lol read the whole article.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:56 AM
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32. I don't wanna, do I haveta?
;)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:50 AM
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21. Well, that, too.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:47 AM
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2. Dowd is a fruitcake, but on Michelle she may be right...not ready for prime time!
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:51 AM
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4. Has she complimented any of our candidates?


Or does she bitch and moan about all of them?
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:01 AM
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7. ...not the point Michelle is NOT helping Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:10 AM
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14. I'd like to know your history, Didereaux. If you are such a staunch Dem,
where have you been all these years? And from the swamplands of TX? That's where I live. Do tell! And welcome, maybe.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:29 AM
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16. in the past I have not been greatly involved in anything to do with internet ;community' and
as I stated awhile back I belong officially to no party, I am a true independant, albeit it seems that on national issues from congress to president that I cannot remember the last Republican that I may have supported. I have also missed only one election in 40 years(you had to be 21 when I started).

My concern this year is to do absolutely everything in my power to help defeat abslolutely every Republican I can. But MOST importantly to help in any way I can to see that the Presidency goes Democratic. The USSupCT is my overweaning priority, but their are so many, many constitutional things needing to be rectified, and in my fantasies the Bush administration is brought into the courts to face the consequences of their actions.

I worry greatly that the Democratic Party will once again self implode from internal bickering over petty or secondary issues, that it will once again be taken over by the fringe elements and thus become unelectable in the general. In short I am a seriously worried citizen, too old, too poor and too infirm to do much more than scribble on computer screens...but I will do that!

In the primaries I overwhelmingly support Joe Biden, for the simple reason that his intelligence, although matched by most of the candidates is time-tempered, and that process yields the all important wisdom. Wisdom is what is lacking in the top tier.

As for swamplands, the wilds of Galveston County in a place that used to be known mostly for its cajun shrimpers, and its 'varmints' hiding from various and sundry authoritarian figures! heh
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:02 AM
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20. this link will probably tell more about me than I know myself heheh
There's about 70 photoshop hacks I've done, and they cover a lot of territory.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12461951@N03/
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:43 AM
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33. By the way Babylon, are you the official greeter? or screener for DU?
if so are there some forms or something for me to fill out? or affidavits to submit? Just wondering, as I do not want to be here
'undocumented' or anything. ;)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:52 AM
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22. Maureen Dowd HATES strong women.
Nothing she says about a woman who voices her own opinions can be accepted simply because of that filter.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:51 AM
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5. Maureen is an asshole
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:02 AM
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10. 2nd
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:04 AM
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11. Yup, she hates everyone. eom
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:07 AM
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13. Thanks for the response No Surrender!
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 02:09 AM by larissa
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(oh p.s.. even though it wasn't to me.. you answered the question I had asked a few posts above )
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:53 AM
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17. No problem...
:hi: :pals:
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:51 AM
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6. Dowd has got in right in this case.
Clinton will be Clinton.

And Michelle Obama is even more niave than her husband. Running for presidency sounds like a game to them. Oops sorry about interupting your comfy lives.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:18 AM
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15. So avaistheone..
Feel free to introduce yourself.

New around here?

What the....

"Oops sorry about interupting your comfy lives"




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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:59 AM
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19. Hi there,
Yes, I just joined up today. This evening was first chance to post. I must say I am enjoying myself here. Larissa, thank you for the welcome.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:57 AM
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23. You are MORE than welcome!


~~~~ We are glad to have you here!!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:14 AM
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30. welcome..
:hi:
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:01 AM
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8. dowd is a woman-hating pos
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 02:02 AM by annie1
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:05 AM
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12. I was going to say the same thing
I was wondering if it was just me that thought she hates every successful woman, specially if she is a Democrat.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:56 AM
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18. i'm getting really f'g tired of these f'g woman-haters like dowd and drudge...
really fucking tired. :mad:

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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 02:02 AM
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9. Dowd sounds like a DU post here.
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 02:02 AM by countmyvote4real
Who does she think she is to publish this crap?

For the record, I don't support either the Clinton or Obama campaigns. I just don't give much weight to this kind of opined analysis.

Maybe I said too much. Oops.

It is what it is.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:22 AM
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31. Nah
Most DUers aren't as snotty.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:41 AM
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24. maureen dowd = money seeker at the temple's door .
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:29 AM
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25. She hates everybody, and vice-versa.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:02 AM
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26. Maureen's problem is that she has no core
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 08:14 AM by Tactical Progressive
It's all just so much fodder to weave her superficial snark.

Publicans spending us into a second five-trillion dollars in 'supply-side' debt?
Why should she possibly care? Al Gore's brown suit shows he's a shallow man.

Democrats trying to get healthcare to 50 million Americans that can't afford even the slightest medical care?
So, is Hillary still "imperious"?

Publicans lying us into a trillion dollar war costing hundreds of thousands of lives?

Right-wing extremists corrupting our federal judiciary?

It's all just fodder for her smart-ass stylings.

Dowd is just an empty soul with a thesaurus, with a crying need to be the center of snark in the media whore world.
She reached that lofty goal sliming the Clintons ten years ago, paving the way for the media hatred of Dems that led to Bush.
I call her the rapier twit, but that's far too nice. She's determined to be one of the most wretched parts of the mainstream media.

Wondering what she could do if she gave a shit about anything real in this world is a waste of time.
She's just not that person.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:03 AM
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27. Now I've heard that thing about "being owed" (or "entitled") about both Obama and Clinton.
Where's that come from? I haven't seen or heard any of them indicate such a feeling.

I don't see a thing wrong with what Michelle Obama said. (Why pick on her, anyway?!) And who dubbed Clinton "the Daisy Buchanan of the boomer set?" (And when did boomers become a "set?" How pretentious can she get?!)

I can't stand Maureen Dowd.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:08 AM
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28. Reading Dowd is like reading a spoiled teenager's slam book.
Dowd lied repeatedly about Gore in 2000 and again about Kerry in 2004. She can't be trusted.

She is an elitist snob that wants to be the smartest person in the room so she hates these people because she knows they are much smarter than she is.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:09 AM
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29. Dowd is pissy and superfical.
And not nearly as funny as the Onion
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:01 AM
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34. who gives a fuck what that harridan has to say
:puke:
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