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TheStateChief Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:03 PM
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Kerry Advisor Bruce Reed Mocks Dean While Promoting Kerry's Pro-War Stance
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 01:27 PM by TheStateChief
I will be supporting Kerry, but it is comments like these that make me very uncomfortable about what we're going to be hearing from Kerry after the nomination has been sewn up:

David Asman: John Kerry has said in the past, suggested, that perhaps it was a law enforcement issue more than a war issue. But does John Kerry think that we are in a war.

Bruce Reed: Of course he does! Somebody needs to tell the White House that they're not running against Howard Dean anymore. John Kerry and John Edwards supported the war in Iraq, they've been tough on terrorism, this White House is so desperate to scare people about terrorists that their own education secretary called the teachers union a terrorist organization. I think they need to calm down over there.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:05 PM
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1. duck!
n/t
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:06 PM
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2. I know the Kerry camp has openly scourned former Dean people
The Kerry campaign in Ohio basically told them to buzz off.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:08 PM
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6. Probably explains the influx into the Edwards ranks.
I know we've picked up over a dozen here locally...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:15 PM
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11. Bruce Reed is an Edwards supporter. Get the accusations straight, eh?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:19 PM
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13. Wrong Bruce Reed supported Kerry, not Edwards
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:43 PM
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18. Since when?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:46 PM
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21. Since last year
I've always heard Reed's name as the DLC chief backing kerry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:02 PM
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26. Impossible. It was always From for Lieberman and Reed for Edwards.
They only grudgingly accepted Kerry, since his voting record was way to the left of other DLC members...especially way left of Dean and Lieberman.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:55 PM
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23. Better tell John Edwards that, before he sends Reed to speak for him again
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/jim/2003/11/18

>>>>>>>
"The division in the party over Dean is less about ideology than about power. Three years after Bill Clinton left office, he and Hillary still control what remains of a Democratic establishment. Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), was installed by Clinton. Most of the powerful new fund-raising groups, known as 527s, and the new think tanks, such as the Center for American Progress, are run by the best and brightest of the Clinton administration. As "National Journal" noted in a detailed look at what it called "Hillary Inc.," the senator's network of fund-raising organizations "has begun to assume a quasi-party status." And some of the best Clinton talent is heavily invested in non-Dean campaigns, especially Joe Lieberman's (Mandy Grunwald and Mark Penn), John Edwards's (Bruce Reed), and Wesley Clark's (Bruce Lindsey, Eli Segal, and Mickey Kantor).
>>>>>
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:31 PM
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28. Gee...no reply?
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NoCorporatePols Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:03 PM
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31. Edwards / Kerry - 2 peas in the same corrupt pod
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:07 PM
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3. Does echoing the scare tactics help anyone calm down?
That's one of my biggest problems with the status quo candidates. They echo bush's spin about TERRA-ISTS!

We should have caught those responsible for 9/11 before it happened, and could have. It's not more powers for spying on citizens, more TIPS programs, or any of that crap -- it's making the system we already have function properly.

Geezaloo.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:07 PM
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4. Who cares.
You got a point?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:08 PM
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5. I thought Bruce Reed was an Edwards supporter. Did he switch to Kerry?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:15 PM
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10. I didn't know he was a Kerry supporter, either
:shrug:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:08 PM
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7. You're really overstating this and flame baiting
why don't you just cut to the chase and post another gay marriage thread?
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:11 PM
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8. send his ass to the frontlines

Iraq has nothing at all to do with 9/11. The invasion was planned
before 9/11 ever even happend.

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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:14 PM
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9. Kerry knows that Bushco's only hope for success is to scare the hell
out of the American people. I'm glad he is confronting the "liberals are weak on defense" crap head on. He must get ahead of this issue or we will talk of nothing else for the next 8 months.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:15 PM
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12. Truth in advertising please
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 01:39 PM by Uzybone
how is this mocking Dean??? Everyone knows that if Dean had been the nominee (yikes!) the WH would run a 100% national security campaign, playing on fears about how Democrats aren't up to the task of defending America. I'm glad that they are now playing on our "turf", cultural issues, because they cannot run on defense when they have a cheerleader going up against a war hero (possibly 2 war heroes).


edit: can to cannot(I really should stop using can't)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:23 PM
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15. Did you listen to Bush's newest stump speech?
They are going after Kerry on national security and they will use the $100 million to pound it into sheeple's minds that Kerry is Osama and Saddam.

from MSNBC just a taste of what is yet to come
Past Votes May Dog Kerry Campaign
Democrat's support of Bush at issue
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4356093/

Here's the part that they will use to hammer Kerry with...
Kerry has had the hardest time explaining to voters why he supported the congressional resolution authorizing the Iraq war but later opposed the $87 billion bill to fund the reconstruction effort in Iraq and Afghanistan. In last week's Democratic debate, Kerry offered a lengthy explanation of how he supported a "process" for winning international support for any military operation and pressuring then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to allow tougher weapons inspections.

They will do to Kerry what they did to Max Cleland. This vote for the 2002 Iraq War and vote against the $87 billion additional funding will be used to cream Kerry over national security and support the troops, which Kerry used to promote his electability during the Dem Primaries.

The only satisfaction I'll get is that those Osama ads Gephardt-Kerry supporters used against Dean, will come back to haunt them. Karma is a b*tch!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:29 PM
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16. Let me guess...
Your answer to presenting a strong front on national security is a certain fresh-faced former tort attorney. Lovely.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:45 PM
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20. I do not support Edwards. I'm voting for Dean on March 2
and ABB in November, but that won't stop me from, assuming that kerry gets the nomination, enjoy watching him get skewered by Rove's minions. I can see those Osama ads Kerry & Gephardt supporters used against Dean being resurrected to be used against Kerry. Karma is a b*tch!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:56 PM
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24. So you in turn Mock Dean?
Yikes!

You are just one more supporter helping me to ignore Kerry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:00 PM
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29. Why are Dean supporters allowed to blame Kerry falsely
with no concern from you?

Shouldn't we ALL be concerned that anything voiced against any Dem be at least ACCURATE?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:33 PM
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32. You're worried about false accusations against Kerry by
Dean supporters? And you want anything voiced against any Dem to be ACCURATE?

Holy smokes. What an incredible conversion. This is bigger than Paul on that road of his.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:45 PM
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33. YOU wouldn't acknowledge accuracy in regard to Dean - that's not my fault.
I didn't jump on any of the questionable claims against Dean. Just the ones that rang true, like his centrism and his coziness with the utillities.

If you have a problem with that then take it up with Dean.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:23 PM
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14. Bruce Reed DLC co-chair?
Often joins Al From in writing anti-Dean articles at ndol?
He is not a Dean person.
Neither is Will Marshall, PPI, sharing offices with DLC, and who is a Kerry adviser.

I can not imagine why the Kerry camp would be interested in Dean people at all.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:44 PM
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19. Bruce Reed is an Edwards supporter.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:41 PM
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17. I didn't know Reed was a Kerry advisor
oh Jesus fucking Christ.:eyes:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:47 PM
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22. FUCK this. I'm not voting. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:01 PM
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30. Aww, c'mon
You've been taking this kind of crap from establishment Dems for years, even if you weren't directly aware of it.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:59 PM
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25. Is their some proof that Reed is a Kerry advisor now?
I wasn't aware of that if it's true. I get the feeling Mr Reed just needs an enima again personally.

I hope Kerry wouldn't hire him, but stranger things have happened.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:22 PM
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27. He's an Edwards supporter, but it's more fun to blame Kerry for every
perceived slight.
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