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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:51 PM
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"We Will Support Hillary. Our Decision Is Not Open For Justification or Review"
Sign on Door in Iowa:

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:53 PM
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1. Yep, sounds like a Clinton thing.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:57 PM
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15. yep! And I agree whole heartedly. In other words...
... We know about Hillary. Every good thing. Every bad thing. We haven't made our decision blindly. We don't need anyone to "explain" to us why she isn't worthy of our vote. We don't owe anyone an explanation or a justification. Many of us were supporting the Clintons while those who would knock on these doors and try to sell us on someone one else were in grade school.

Vote for who you want to. We'll do the same.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. .
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:58 PM by wyldwolf
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:19 PM
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44. That sign should be shown to every volunteer for every campaign
for one reason

Some volunteer from another campaign pissed off those people and that is not the function of a volunteer...

Your function is to put a 1,2,3,4,5,6 next to the voter name helping your candidate to either further target this voter or to focus on another voter metaphorically speaking "down the street"

You smile, say you are a volunteer for X, ask if they are considering X, make a judgement with the code, thank them for their time and go on to the next voter.

Do not argue with them

Geez
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:40 PM
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59. Yep. "I don't have to explain to anyone." Sounds familiar. Let's see....
where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah...now I know...we've been hearing that for eight loooooooonnnnnnggggg years.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:23 PM
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73. Your comment is a good example of why they need that sign.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:54 PM
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2. Closed door and closed mind.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:54 PM
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4. "Closed door and closed mind" - Sounds like 99.9% of the clinton haters on DU
Is that who you were referring to?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
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11. i'm glad people see your
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:57 PM by sniffa
awesome post. :thumbsup:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:59 PM
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22. Thanks sniffa. So where's your Hillary avatar?
Dearie me, I sure hope the mods didn't tell you to get rid of it! That would be a shame :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #22
34. no they didn't
but they deleted your awesome post to me. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #34
41. I know :(
You're my idol.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. thank you
i'm flattered.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:17 PM
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43. There you go again - you inspire me!
When superb posts get neglected, you are always there to give them credit. Maybe some people don't appreciate it, but I surely do. Even though you dislike the candidate I like, too, I don't even mind a bit, and I even like your candidate, whether it's Oprah, a champagne (did I spell that right?) glass, or JE or DK - (I figure it's got to be one of those two.)

There are just so many truly thought-provoking, intelligent posts that are ignored by so many, and you are so often there, giving them the credit they deserve, proving a valuable service for many, and a lot of laughs for me, personally!


Inspiration personified - that's you!:hug:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #43
48. aww, thank you
:hug:

and it's a martini glass. and it's DK, CD, and then probably JE.

i encourage many DUers to repost their awesome posts as OP's because i truly believe they deserve to be recognized on the Greatest Page.

and honestly, i have no idea whom you support. :shrug:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:48 PM
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61. Oh, anytime, it's truly deserved.

I don't want to tell you who I (mainly) support, because I do believe we tussled over it once, and I can't bear the thought of arguing again - well, with someone I like, anyway... You wouldn't remember probably because you do argue with....well a few people, and actually I now support whoever has the best chance of beating HRC. I can live with any of the others just fine, and prefer the idea of an open and transparent administration, which I believe all of the others would provide.

Anyway, you're such a changed guy now - you are so POSITIVE, and helpful. Those posts you compliment are always so special, and almost always ignored until you get to them. We need MORE of those posts on the Greatest Page - there will never be enough for me!

:)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #61
67. well, then it's only one of two candidates
so i take it i can assume it's the other one.

and changed? i think i'm still the salty curmudgeon i've always been. :shrug:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:31 PM
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68. Well yes, you are, I think.
But I didn't "get" you before, now I think I'm on to you. Don't shrug those shoulders at me, young man - you are an instigator, and you ENJOY it, and you crack me up constantly.

Or, maybe it's the pain medicine I'm taking. I fell and have a compression fracture on a bone in my back (no, I'm not THAT old, it was a bad fall), and I'm just finding so much amusing stuff on here lately. I just changed my mind and I'm going to vote only for JE, because Hillary and Obama are going to jam the caucus phone lines - I read it on the Greatest Page!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:24 PM
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50. What happened to your "awesome" avatar from yesterday?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:30 PM
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51. the mods made him remove it
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. no they didn't
in fact, i'll bring it back right now just for you. :thumbsup:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #50
55. i removed it
but apparently, it's a big hit, so it's back now.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:40 PM
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58. ROFLMAO!!!!!
ahhh sniffa! :toast:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. figuring that i already told the guy i removed it
fuck it. it's back. :hi:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. This is great. I needed a good laugh tonight.
Your avatar seems to say... pppffffttt!!! :hi: Sigh. My face hurts. :rofl:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:38 PM
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69. Easily amused?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:55 PM
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6. Please. You have no idea what it's like to be in IA or NH right now.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
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8. Aren't there a lot of people here on DU who've made their decisions
and don't intend to change their minds, either?
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forsberg Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #2
12. hey, you gotta make your mind up sometime right?
they started with an open mind, and finally came to a conclusion!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:54 PM
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3. Excellent. I'm going to put a sign on my door in NH too.
What a great idea! :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:59 PM
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23. Indeed, I'm not answering my door anymore.
I just clear the flotsam and jetsam of campaign paraphernalia out of the screen door every night. :rofl:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:15 PM
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40. lol. I know what you mean... but I LOVE chatting with the canvassers.
I keep wishing they would come to my house. Ive had great conversations with the Edwards and Obama people. And Ive had tons of literature shoved in my door too! I think that half of them dont even bother to knock... they just shove the literature in the door. Never anyone other than Obama and Edwards though... how bout you bluebear?

I remember we chatted about the literature we'd received a couple of weeks ago. Since then Ive received 16 (!!!!!) Obama mailers... still nothing from Clinton. Whats your tally up to these days? My (compressed) stack of mailers is almost 1" thick. All Edwards, Richardson, Obama... still nothing from anyone else!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:55 PM
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5. They must be getting sick of door to door politicians.
I can't blame them. I cannot believe the responses to this thread.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:55 PM
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7. Hillary supporters obnoxiously shutting themselves up from the real world?
Doesn't surprise me at all.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. what a load of crap you spew
today it is especially smelly.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
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13. Sticks and stones Emerald
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:57 PM by Wolsh
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:57 PM
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16. Don't worry about Wolsh, he'll slip quietly away after Thursday
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:58 PM by Lirwin2
As someone who has already stated that they are planning to write in Bloomberg, it's surprising to see that he hasn't been banned yet.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:58 PM
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20. I'll be right here for the next 4 years Lirwin
It's you who I'm worried about. When Hillary concedes on Feb 5th, where are you going to be?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:04 PM
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30. Deleted message
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:09 PM
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35. um, isn't this against DU rules to call out another member as a freeper?
unless I"m confused
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:11 PM
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37. You get confused alot, don't you?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:11 PM
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72. apparently.
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 08:16 PM by Lerkfish
I look at the rules, and then I look at your posts.

:shrug:

since you continually post things against the rules, then I guess I am continually confused.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:38 PM
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:10 PM
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36. If voting for progressives makes me a "freeper"....
then I'll be the freepest freeper thats ever freeped.
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dogishboy Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:39 PM
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57. Bloomberg was never a progressive
unless you think standing up for * is "the progressive thing to do"
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 09:32 PM
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74. I think it is called Hillary World by them....I would have another name for it....
this thread is downright WIERD!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
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9. That sums up her whole campaign.
Just substitute "You" for "We" and you've got the message from Hillaryland.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:56 PM
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14. "justification or review"? In other words,
don't ask us why cuz we probably just don't know any better.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:57 PM
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17. Is this "closed door" attitude something we should be proud of?
Yuk.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:01 PM
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27. No, it's embarassing
When you live in a tight shell of pomposity, you miss out on a lot. Just this afternoon, I had a chance to meet some great young kids who were out canvassing for Dennis Kucinich. I had my Obama button on, so we kidded each other a bit. Anyone who spends New Year's Day slogging through a snowstorm deserves a good word, not a snide snub.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:13 PM
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39. "... a tight shell of pomposity..." - LOL !!!
THAT... was perfct!

:bounce::rofl::bounce:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:05 PM
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31. Honestly, I think it's a service
It tells everyone out canvassing not to waste their time knocking on that door.

And for some, it identifies whose tires to deflate on Thursday. :evilgrin:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. whu? tires to deflate?
what are you going on about? are you avocating vandalism? not really sure what you mean, here.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:31 PM
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52. that sign reads like stomping feet and pouty lips to me. nt
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:58 PM
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19. Must be why she's no longer taking questions. It's over..lol n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:59 PM
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21. In other words
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 06:00 PM by wyldwolf
... We know about Hillary. Every good thing. Every bad thing. We haven't made our decision blindly. We don't need anyone to "explain" to us why she isn't worthy of our vote. We don't owe anyone an explanation or a justification. Many of us were supporting the Clintons while those who would knock on these doors and try to sell us on someone one else were in grade school.

Go read your blogs. Trot around on your high horse.

Vote for who you want to. We'll do the same.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:59 PM
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24. And in the back yard
The unmarked grave of some unidentified shmoe wearing an orange knit hat.

Just kidding.

Glad no one's knocking on my door every day!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:00 PM
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25. There's value in those conversations even if your mind is made up
It's a shame that SOME Hillary supporters don't agree.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:00 PM
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26. resistance is futile



(btw, just injecting some humor. lighten up, folks)
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #26
47. Yup, we've been living with this for so many years!...
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 06:25 PM by calipendence


She's our "status quo" candidate... No questions asked or welcomed!



Obama avoided his first fight with a borg queen when the husband of one borg queen (Seven of Nine) left the senate race he faced in Illinois...

Guess he can't avoid this one! :)

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:01 PM
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28. Wow, I thought that sign was limited to Jehovah's Witnesses.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:04 PM
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29. I love it! If I was in Iowa or NH, I'd...
have such a sign for whoever I was going for after 300 people knocked on my door shilling for someone.

I'd screen all phone calls, too, with the same mesage on my answering machine.

At some point your mind IS made up and the politicking becomes a supreme annoyance.

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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:06 PM
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32. Possibly why so many said they were 'independent' in the DMR poll
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 06:07 PM by Texas_Kat
All the real Democrats in Iowa won't answer their phones anymore.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:12 PM
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38. Yes, thats it!
:rofl:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:17 PM
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42. And what would the reaction be
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 06:18 PM by MissDeeds
if this sign was posted by an Edwards or Obama supporter?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. Hate, Disgust and Outrage.
Why do you ask? :P
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:23 PM
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49. I'll put same sign on my door.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:32 PM
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53. This just looks like a "stop bugging me already" door sign.
Fine by me. I got annoyed when my phone kept ringing last time--I'd be even more annoyed if people kept coming to my door.
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #53
63. or possibly stuck on the door by a paid Hillary worker...n/m
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:00 PM
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62. Blind Faithful... Just What America Needs Right Now...
Does Peter Paul , Norman Hsu or Chinese Dishwasher Thousand Dollar Contributors mean anything to anybody? :think:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:11 PM
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65. Good for them.
I'd love to be in Iowa right now, but would hate to have to deal with the BS for months.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:14 PM
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66. Not so different from "You aren't changing my vote for Edwards so STFU" thread on DU
That thread made it to page one too!
I would think by this time, if you live in Iowa, you better had made up your mind by now - not the same candidate I would have picked - but I don't see any problem with it.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:47 PM
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70. I'd do the Same thing!
I make up my own mind and I don't like a bunch of door knockers.....phone ringers calling everyday after I have told them Once that I know who I'm voting for.........these folks have the right idea....and it is their right .to tell others to get lost!!
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:52 PM
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71. I love that sign!
I want one!
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 09:37 PM
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75. wohooo!!!
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