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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:28 AM
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Voting for Kerry as the Nominee is like Voting for Bush in Nov...

and Kerry's only chance is if he picks Edwards as his VP, and even then it'll still be too close to call. Nader is not the issue. Kerry has to be electable and if Nader can throw the election by being on the ballot... then what does that say about Kerry's electability?

I just hope when Kerry (unless he picks Edwards) loses in Nov you folks won't blame us ANTI-Bush, ANTI-ABB folks, because y'all nominated the wrong gal/ guy.

I hope I am wrong.

Voting your conscience is what dems are all about or atleast that's what I always thought it was about - maybe I was wrong.

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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:34 AM
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1. Don't worry, you are wrong
Haha, who knows who is right or wrong. I think the same thing about John Edwards running against Bush. I also think that Clark would make a much better VP then Edwards. There is nothing special about the guy IMO.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:35 AM
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2. nonsense
he's the most likely to beat bush of all the candidates who ran.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:42 AM
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3. that is just cool...
that you two (first to respond)

are actually nice folks. Thanx for both of your responses.

I was figuring on a wild onslaught of evil duers trying to silence me by offering me a free colonoscopy... I know I'm MISspelling this somehow...

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:46 AM
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4. lol
nope... and you spelled it right :)
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:47 AM
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5. Welcome back.
I missed reading you. :)
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:09 AM
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9. I missed being here...

and thank you Melinda for your kind words,

I had to take a vacation and now it's time to remind everyone that this was about electability and if Nader is a threat than maybe we are nominating the wrong person,

((((HUGz)))),

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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:59 AM
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6. What a pathetic post.
Voting your conscience means defeating Bush. We have primaries to pick the nominee which is still undecided. Those that hope Bush will win are suicidal,immature,crybabies,that care more for their silly ideologies than what is needed now.
If Bush wins, this will be the last real presidential election. Both Edwards and Kerry are polling well against Bush. I will support both on or off the ticket. Another ticket might be better,lets see.

If you predict defeat,you will get. Get It!
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:18 AM
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12. I'm not predicting defeat...

I appreciate you bringing this up. All I have done is expressed an opinion about Kerry's chances if he doesn't pick Edwards as his VP.

That is his only chance.


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The Mighty Boot Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:00 AM
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7. Really?
Will Kerry ram thru yearly tax cuts?

Send fellow humans to die and kill because
he can?

Install Charles Pickering and William Prior to
federal judgeships?

etc., etc.

If you can't conscientiously vote Democrat then
maybe (with all due respect) you're a member of
another voting bloc.

The people voting for JK in the primaries want a
Democrat in the White House. The fuc*ing BOZO in
there now can't be trusted.

Right now, that's what being a Democrat is all
about. To me anyway.

ABBEN
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:14 AM
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11. I haven't decided yet to vote ABB...

I'm just curious to see how people react.

And, none of what you are saying is really helping your case...

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:03 AM
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8. Pretty sure your wrong, but have no worries, I won't be blaming
you.

Just wondering, isn't ANTI-Bush and ANTI-ABB contradictory?
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:48 AM
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17. I can go both ways...

yeah I know how that sounds, but you can be anti-bush and anti anybody but bush by explaining that you believe that Kerry is the ABB and you believe that a vote for Kerry as the nominee is a vote for Bush in November since Kerry's only chance of winning is by picking Edwards as VP and that is still razor close,

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:10 AM
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10. Glad you got it out of your system AS
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 03:11 AM by NNN0LHI
Now lets get on with beating Bush. It will be fun. :-)

Don

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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:20 AM
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13. I guess it's good to hedge your bets, conscience and all, but
the democratic party hasn't selected a nominee. They all have great merit when I consider the * consequence. So, how does your conscience configure that? Is it ABB or ABMC?

And your candidate is? Why so shy about it?

I'm not electing a God. I'm looking out for myself. Making things good for others, makes it good for me, too. Screwing us by electing * makes the rest of us non-appointed martyrs.

Thanks for the consideration. I'd rather have a job. equality and regain some respect in the rest of the world.

You might have another agenda. I can't tell. It seems like you think I should vote for *.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:33 AM
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14. true...

it will be Kerry. You can believe me or not. You will see by next Tuesday in March that I am right. He needs to announce (as soon as possible) that Edwards is his VP of choice,

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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:15 AM
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21. Sorry. Putting Edwards on the ticket is not a deal breaker for me.
I’m not a fan of polls, but I do like ideals. So, I’m going to vote for Kucinich on Super Tuesday. I know he won’t win the primary, but that’s my only chance to register my choice within the party. And after that, it doesn’t really matter to me if Edwards, Kerry or Kucinich are on the ticket. I’m voting ABB.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:32 AM
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24. please vote Kucinich...

If ABB is your conscience then that's how you need to vote


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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:35 AM
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15. Don't worry, you're wrong

Edwards is worse than useless as a VP. The ticket looks like Kerry/Clark to most people, and if it picks up 'only' the liberal leaners, that should be a 51-46-3 victory. Yes, I think they'll be taking a lot of apologies....

On a jury is where to vote your conscience. In politics people vote according to their best interests.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:39 AM
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16. I think Kerry can give chimp a real run but
I would really love to see Kerry/Edwards or Edwards/Kerry. I think if Kerry and Edwards were on the same ticket they would be unbeatable. :thumbsup:
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:59 AM
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19. Kerry/ Edwards is our only chance...

ABB would have united everyone behind the eventual nominee so how was Kerry more electable, if Nader can strike fear and vicious anger against his or her fellow dems like has recently happened here in the DU - how would Kucinich or Sharpton or Braun or Dean have done any worse?

With all this ABB sentiment, don't you think Kucinich or Sharpton or Braun is just as electable as kerry - especially considering how a lot of Kerry (ABB) fans are quaking in their boots over Nader right now.

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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:54 AM
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18. I don't know how you can believe that when all polls
show Kerry beats bush* with a wider margin than Edwards. The Democratic Party is lining big time behind the nominee with one goal: to oust bush*. It seems there are a minority that get their panties in a bunch and say if their candidate doesn't get the nomination they aren't voting. But if thats the case they weren't voting for the Democratic nominee to begin with. Children love to play but when its time to work you can't find them.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:04 AM
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20. oh yes polls...

I remember Deans polls quite clearly,

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:20 AM
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22. You are wrong - see this thread
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:28 AM
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23. We'll see if I'm wrong...
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