ignorant obama solicitor called this morning....

[msongs]

this woman/girl called and asked if I'd consider voting for her candidate because he was the agent of change against washington insiders.
when I mentioned he IS a washington insider, she told me no, he is in Illinois not washington. when I advised her that he was the senator from Illinois working in washington most of the time and was thus an insider, she got all indignant and told me he did not live in washington, he was a senator IN Illinois, he lived in illinois, and wanted to go to washington to change things. We never did talk about policies, and without discussing the merits or lack thereof in obama's views, I suggested she learn more about what a US senator is and does.

she then told me that if that is how I feel then they do not want my support anyway.

seems like a promoter of any candidate ought to at least know who and what he/she is and does before trying to convert people to that candidate's side.

well at least the clinton campaign has stopped sending me solicitations to donate to her senate campaign in new york, 3000 miles away.
Now if Bill would stop sending me junk mail.....

Msongs

[Ian David]

1. Did she tell you to "fuck-off and die?" n/t

[fascisthunter]

4. ouch (nt)

[chascarrillo]

7. I apologized to everyone for that

[Catherine Vincent]

21. LOL!

You know if you wouldn't apologize everytime someone mentions it, no one would know it was you that said it. :)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. damn, I thought that was the Illinois motto

and I've lived here all my life.

[Ian David]

34. I was gonna say... I had no idea who said it. n/t

[MadBadger]

2. At least she wasnt doing a push poll

Unlike some calls that have been reported here, trashing Edwards and Obama.

[gaiilonfong]

3. You are right about that! n/t

[youthere]

5. That's unfortunate...

it seems like all campaigns get occasional volunteers that have more enthusiasm than knowledge.

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. It is a microcosm of his campaign

inexperience, juvenile, with lots of enthusiasm.

[saracat]

8. Maybe so.But while he isn't my first choice inexperience is better than corruption

triangulation, and greed!

[Capn Sunshine]

20. It sure beats arrogance and inside the beltway condescention

but every campaign is noteworthy in its own way.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

26. Sometimes that happens when you have a lot of enthusiastic volunteers

Not that the Clinton campaign would know about that.

[Evergreen Emerald]

30. nice attack! you are getting good at that!

[Perry Logan]

35. And a very short temper.

[OKNancy]

9. my nephew ( 24) likes him because he is cool..

I said, what about his health plan or his views on gays?... didn't know a thing.
I pointed out we had the "have a beer with" guy already. We aren't electing a friend..but a President. He promised to read up on the candidates, but I doubt he will, in fact I doubt he will even vote.

[cd3dem]

17. cool is not a critical qualification for a president

Jesse Ventura was elected MN Governor in part by buying pizza and courting the young person's vote. I was a 40 year old college student at the time, and many of the traditional college kids said they were excited to vote in their first election because they were voting for Jesse Ventura. He was cool! He was a wrestler and he wasn't like other politicians. After being elected, he made his positions more clear, and the young people were sad they voted for him.

"If students are smart enough to go to college, they're smart enough to figure out how to pay for it," Jesse Ventura said.

At the age of 18, a person is given the right to vote and is considered an adult. It is time to act like one. If your nephew is going to support Obama, then that is fine, but he needs a better reason.

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[tammywammy]

11. ....

bwhahaha

:rofl: That's exactly what I was thinking.

[adnelson60087]

12. Most of my wife's family support Obama

because he's black. They don't know squat about his positions and when they actually learn his policies, they don't agree with some of them. But they are still supporting him due to his being black like them. Sad, but true.

[cd3dem]

14. because he's black

do they know, his black roots were slave traders? and his white roots were slave owners? if they are going to vote on the race issue, they should consider all those facts...

otherwise, they and others should educate themselves on all the issues...

I saw many college kids vote for Jesse Ventura for Governor in MN b/c they thought he was cool... he came on campus and bought pizza... he was a wrestler, not a politician... and a few years later, they realized that the guy did not support funding colleges or anything else young people wanted... he only wanted to buy them pizza to get their vote..

great if Obama is getting people out of their homes and interested in politics... let's get them to read the issues and become lifetime voting dems...

[NYCGirl]

16. So Obama should be held responsible for what his ancestors did? NT

[cd3dem]

19. yes, IF the only reason you vote for Obama is because he is black

if you are going to be narrow minded and vote based on race, then consider all parts of the race issue.... not just the color of a person's skin...

[NYCGirl]

32. Yeah, because Barack Obama told his ancestors what to do!

:rofl:

[Evergreen Emerald]

24. that is what Michelle suggested

[mrreowwr_kittty]

27. Most of the Clinton supporters I know support her either because she's a woman

Or because she's married to Bill Clinton. I don't necessarily think those are terrible reasons but they certainly don't speak to her positions.

[ellisonz]

31. Exactly.

Hillary is wagging the Big Dog's tail.

[asdjrocky]

13. Wow-

Proof that a volunteer, not trained properly, can do more harm than good.

[cd3dem]

15. I received a similiar Obama call

I have never received a call like the one I got earlier in the year from an Obama supporter... she sounded uninformed, and lacked any meat to her script even.... I am listed as a strong dem and get all the emails and mailings and calls... this was unbelievable... she was also rude... and ended up hanging up on me when I said I was not going to be sending money to anyone yet as I was undecided...

[sniffa]

29. O'rly?

[Cha]

18. I'd say ignorant, rude, and

and kinda stupid. If you're going to be a surrogate for a candidate you'd better have some class.

[BeyondGeography]

22. And we're supposed to believe you because?

[hayu_lol]

25. I wonder how many of these calling shills are paid for by the GOP? ...

we all experienced a lot of this during the '04 election. Easiest thing in the world to call and say you are a supporter of ________and then appear to be so stupid that you reflect badly on the candidate you supposedly represent.

[sniffa]

33. becuz

[mrreowwr_kittty]

28. Volunteer phone bankers are not solicitors.

If she were a solicitor, she'd be paid and asking for money.