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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:28 PM
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Do you think Bloomberg will run.
me: i don't think he will run if obama wins the nom. but i think hil will win the nom and i think he will run.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:28 PM
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1. i doubt it, would he turn down a cabinet post---doubt it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:31 PM
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2. I wouldn't be surprised. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:50 PM
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3. I think he's in.
The man has deep pockets and nothing to do.
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whatdoyouthink Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:32 PM
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4. Depends who we Pick
in are primary....If its one or two - that are leading now! He will...
if a 3 or 4 wins...then he wont - but someone else will!!!
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:44 PM
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5. he will depending upon the major parties nominees...
one of his 'spokesmen' supposedly leaked last week that Bloomberg would announce after Super Tuesday when it will be apparent who the winners will be. My own guess is that he will run if the Dems choose a candidate who polls behind the Repug. Some would argue the opposite. He is counting on the independant voters and the dissatisfied centrist/moderate voters from both the majors.

He could win outright I think if say the Repug was a Giuliani or Huckabee, maybe even Romney, McCain on the otherhand would draw in too many of the old Republicans. If the Dems were to pick Obama and put him against McCain, Bloomberg will run...same may possibly be the calculus fro Clinton. Edwards is the only Dem who polls equal to McCain at this time. A Bloomberg/Edwards/McCain bllot might very well wind up in the House of Reps. Again that scenario might also apply to McCain/Clinton/Bloomberg. Would the House have to compromise and put him in? Who knows?

At this juncture this may be one of the more complicated elections ever, or it will merely be another example of political pundits pro and amateur being made to look like foolish jackasses after the fact! (and yes, this posting falls squarely in the category.

I will caveat any nay-sayers or specific candidate sycophants that wish to argue this, you better know your shit cause I am hungry and have a large bottle of Ketchup available. heh
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:09 AM
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6. Bloomberg Would Split the Anti-Bush Vote Right Down the Middle if He Runs
If the Repigs get all of the 29%ers (Bush lovers) and the Dems and Bloomberg split the rest, either the Repigs win outright or it goes to the House.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:11 AM
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7. Yes I think he will run and may force the election into the House and Senate. n/t.
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:13 AM
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8. He is popular, but
it is very tough to win as a third party candidate


he could affect the outcome for sure
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:31 AM
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11. If he picks up 10 states he could checkmate the electoral college and send it into the Congress. n/t
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:51 AM
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12. exactly and absolutely,
i just fiugure they will go for an R or a D


id take bloomberg over any of the Rs, but i prefer any of the Dems
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:15 AM
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9. If its Clinton, Edwards, Biden or Dodd he will run for sure.
He would get the anti-war vote, disenfranchised republicans and most independents.

He would probably think twice about Obama, because it wouldn't be as easy to get the anti-war vote.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:52 AM
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20. No, he would not run against Biden or Dodd, remember...
Chuck Hagel is the heir apparent to the VP slot on a Bloomberg ticket. Hagel and Biden and Dodd worked fairly closely on several things and are not to far separated on a lot of issues. Now if it was absolutely apparent that the American voter had suddenly written off either one of those for some unknown reason, and were leaning heavily toward the Repug, THEN Bloomberg would most assuredly run.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 07:31 PM
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22. It all comes down to the war.. They voted for the war.
And thus will be easy to defeat by an independent ticket.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:02 AM
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23. Way too simplistic
IMHO, almost certain he will not run against Biden, unlikely that he will run against Dodd either.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:11 PM
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24. Most things, in actuality, are quite simple.
If you have learned anything from watching Ron Paul, it is that people who are strongly against the war will sell out most of their other views to support someone who is preceived as "anti-war". Biden, Dodd, Edwards, Clinton are all saddled as war candidates and no matter how much lip service they have given the anti-war movement, in the end, they can be labeled as responsible by any 3rd party candidate wishing to carve away a large part of their base vote.

Biden and Dodd have no special signficance here. They are and can easily be painted as "war candidates" who are now giving politically convenient answers.

Frightenly, Hagel will have an easier time overcomming this, since he had to actually buck his own party to take his stance, so even though he initially showed the same cowardice as Clinton, Edwards, Biden and Dodd, the public will be quicker to forgive because ultimately it will be spun he showed courage.. whereas it doesn't take "courage" for a democrat to be against the war, since that is how they were perceived from the beginning.

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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:28 AM
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10. I don't know why this would be true but
TV talking heads I've heard talk about it always say he'd run for sure if it was Hillary and rudy running, sometimes they just specify Hillary.

I've never heard them explain why. Maybe they make it up because they like idea of NY drama, maybe there is bad blood I just haven't heard about.

My favorite TV rumor I heard bt chance. Before I turned off TV after hardball the start of Tucker came on with a teaser about Gore making independent run. I watched. They were saying he was having meetings with Bloomberg who was trying to get him to run and offering to finance it, that Gore was considering it.
I don't believe it. I believe Bloomberg would ask, just don't think Gore would take that route.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 10:42 AM
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21. Good question. If Gore wouldn't then maybe he would endorse?
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:57 AM
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13. He'd be even less qualified in an experiential sense than Giuliani
I can't imagine why anyone of any political stripe would consider voting for this guy (or Giuliani).

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:04 AM
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14. Well he has an 75% approval rating in NYC and is known worldwide, n/t
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:10 AM
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15. And not to shrug off running a government the size of NYC's
but I think we've started setting the bar pretty low for seriousness as a presidential candidate. The GOP, for that matter, has already dropped the bar to the ground, and apparently anyone can step over it.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:14 AM
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16. I don't think you realize the reach this guy has or the clout. Take a minute a check this site.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:29 AM
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17. I realize what you're getting at
and yes, this guy's a heavyweight. But in an era where disgust with things corporate has become widespread, I doubt a candidate as deeply corporate as this one would get much traction, even if he donned the guise of self-made man. Without making huge concessions to the populist wings of either party, or a hypothetical new one, he wouldn't make much of a dent, and I don't believe he's credible as a populist, despite his popularity.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:36 AM
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18. There is no such thing in the general population "as corporate disgust". n/t
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:43 AM
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19. I'm really skeptical of that contention
I think there's a ton of it out there.

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