Is it OK to harass Nader volunteers?

[uconnyc]

If I see one here in AZ trying to get him on the ballot, I'll be sure to give them my two cents!

[JHBowden]

1. I flipped one off on the expressway the other day.

When I see the words "Ralph Nader" I lose all strength of will, capacity for rationality, and so forth....

[MsDemeander]

27. And you are proud of that status?

There must be a more mature and democratic way to handle yourself.

[Forkboy]

41. yes,we know

[unfrigginreal]

2. Yes

Just be sure to be wearing brown.

[Blayde Starrfyre]

8. And walk this way

[minkyboodle]

36. lol

your name says how I feel about DU recently!!! :toast:
Scott

[mmonk]

3. nah

just laugh hysterically and go on your way.

[mdmc]

6. I'd give them the peace sign

all you need is love. :~)

[ulysses]

4. do you need

DU's permission to fuck with people for daring to be involved in the political process?

No! In fact, you should kill them. Run them down. Tire tracks, baby!

[WiseMen]

5. No. One must be pretty committed to some ideal to volunteer for Nader

[JHBowden]

7. Committed to Bush, perhaps.

:think:

[JackDragna]

9. Speaking on behalf of Nader supporters everywhere..

..it's this kind of attitude among Democrats which gives people cause to leave the party. Come "harass" us at your peril.

[Blayde Starrfyre]

10. Good point

The Democrats are going to have to be an umbrella organization this year, now more than ever. Ostracizing people for not following the DLC party line won't help. Convince them why they should be on your side.

[mouse7]

19. You've already left the party. Who cares what you think.

If you aren't going to support a Democrat beat Bush, you are already out of the party. If you abandon the party and the country in this hour of need, you're pretty much dead to the party anyway.

[Forkboy]

24. "Who cares what you think."

Where have we heard that before?

[Kimber Scott]

38. If we have to care what a Naderite thinks

do we have to coddle the Repugs, too?

[G_j]

39. "with us or against us, watch what you say, you're not a patriot"

yes sounds familiar doesn't it?

pot meet kettle

[HFishbine]

30. In case you hadn't noticed

It's going to be pretty damn hard to win an election with the 36% of voters who are IN the party. Might want to re-think that.

[Kimber Scott]

40. And what will you do...

vote for Nader and live under Bush rule for four more years? Maybe, in the next four years Bush can undo the two term rule and we can keep him for longer? You really are scaring me.

Honestly, though. This is a free country and we are all free to support and vote for whoever we please. BUT, this is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Independent Underground. I'm sure Nader supporters are more welcome over at Free Republic. Rush Limbaugh was praising the heck out of Nader this morning. He's ecstatic he's running. Kind of tells you something, doesn't it?

[Naderrific]

55. Thank you Jack

good point

[mmonk]

11. Its good you'll give them your two cents though

I wouldn't want them to go empty handed for their efforts.;)

[John_H]

12. Remember: They're INDISTINGUISHABLE from Rethugs

[Blayde Starrfyre]

14. Stupid

That is BS. The difference is that you might be able to talk Nader supporters into voting Democrat.

[John_H]

34. Nah, supporting Nader is stupid since he is INDISTINGUISHABLE

from any Republican--both want to defeat Dems.

Once someone gets wacked out enough to support a megalomaniacal wal-mart profiteering, union busting, INDISTINGUSHABLE-from-Bush liar there's little chance they'll have the sense to join the fight to rid their country of the worst admisitration in history.

[unfrigginreal]

15. Yeah, but we know 'em when we see 'em

We'll ferret all the bastads out and brand them for eternity.

[Forkboy]

18. And harrassing people is different how?

Or,like the Repubs,do have an excuse why it's ok for you to do something bad?

[John_H]

37. Supporting Nader is and Chimp is bad. Laughing at them is fun.

Making fun of the people that support them is heartwarming. Watching humorless, irony-deaf Nader and Bush supporters get irked when you make fun of them is a regular laugh riot.

[Forkboy]

42. So I was right

you are like the republicans and have an excuse why it's ok for you to harrass people.

[John_H]

47. No, I'm having a laugh riot as per my response to you

[Forkboy]

49. He who can laugh at himself

never ceases to be amused.

[IndianaGreen]

54. Let's act like the Freepers that harassed the Chuy's waitress!

Let's act like the Freepers that harassed the Chuy's waitress that called the cops on the Bush twins for having a fake ID!

Real liberals don't behave like Nazi brown shirts, but then, real liberals don't seem welcomed around these parts.

[iamjoy]

13. Please Do Not Harass

I see you are an Edwards supporter. Sometimes my temper gets up and I want to go all cut throat. Then I remind myself that the reason I like John Edwards is his positive message.

Let's not attack Ralph Nader, unless he attacks us first.

Try to have a nice conversation with them, that in our current system of plurality winner takes all electoral college, there is no way to see it other than a vote for Nader being a vote for Bush.

[Forkboy]

16. If you want to act just like Republican

[meow mix]

17. they all look like bush enablers to me

4 more years, just keep that in mind as you mentally super-impose bushes head onto thier shoulders.

[mmonk]

45. to some extent

Nader is no friend to the cause (results, not position wise). Therefore we must be steadfast in trying to convince his would be supporters that a repeat of another four years is not in everyones interest and their efforts effectively lead to that conclusion by splitting the opposition.

[HFishbine]

20. Yes!

Allegiance to the party is all!

[mouse7]

22. Allegiance to beating Bush is all

The "Democrats are just like Bush" crap is tiresome. People are bored with it. They know better.

[HFishbine]

25. "Democrats are just like Bush? You're close.

If the democrats start harassing people who are participating in the political process, then they will have indeed erased another of the few remaining distinctions.

[cally]

21. This just pisses me off

Of course it's not OK to harrass or abuse folks who are trying to change the political process. I don't agree with the way they are trying to do that, I do believe they are on our side.

We have to figure out a way to unify and harrassing folks is not the way.

[mmonk]

23. Nader is a decent man

with good ideas and conviction coupled with a bad idea to run at a time when it will only dilute the effort to remove the bush administration.

[MsDemeander]

26. If you don't support democracy and are filled with hate then yes

Otherwise I say run someone on their record and hope for the best.

[buddhamama]

28. don't give them your two cents

it is my undertsanding that all Nader supporters are rich college fund kids so why throw your money away.

better to give it to a homeless person.

or better yet, instead of wasting your time with someone who is already involved in our democracy, speak with someone who isn't.

[tobius]

29. I've seen plenty of posters here at DU

complain that they have been harassed because of their bumper sticker, tshirt,hat..etc.. and everyone chimed in to say that it proved how incredibly intolerant and ignorant "those" people were.


If you want to join in on that type of behavior, you reflect badly on the ideals espoused by those that seek peace with their neighbor.

[corporatewhore]

31. well i didnt like it when i was harassed by repugs when i helda sign that

was pro-killer D's during the time they went to new mexico

[mike_c]

32. is it OK for repigs to harrass dem volunteers?

do unto others....

[incapsulated]

33. Beat on the Brat...

Beat on the Brat
Beat on the Brat with a baseball bat!

Oh ya! Oh ya! Oh, ho...!




Oh, lighten up.

[West Coast Democrat]

35. Harass? No. Just protest with picket signs........

they can't deny you your right to protest.

[Forkboy]

44. Thank you

I know we dont agree on this issue but your method is the right way to deal with them.

[West Coast Democrat]

46. I would just do it for the sake of irony

Anyway, I was disgusted by the harassment Democrats received from Nader-supporters and Greens after sElection 2000. At pro-recount rallies there were ALWAYS Nader/Green-types hanging around and just yelling nasty things. I could ALMOST tolerate Nader and his supporters before that.

[Forkboy]

50. I dont agree with thier choice of action

I didn't see that,and it's sad to hear that happened.

However,that was thier right,as it's your to protest right back at them.

[Kimber Scott]

43. Just Ignore them... they will go away.

This whole topic makes my blood boil, but the more I think about it, there isn't really a chance in hell Nader will have the impact on this election he had on the last one. I'll be surprized if he gets enough signatures to get on most of the ballots.

I think it's best we Dems quit fanning the flames and let this one die out on it's own. The media loves a dogfight and if we keep giving them one over this, we're just giving Ralph free publicity.

Like I said... Ignore them. They will go away.

:kick:

[NV1962]

48. It's not just OK, it's a sport

It's hard work, but those droopy faces look so cute...

Double points when they get angry.

Shite, shite, Naderite, move on over to the right!

[IndianaGreen]

51. This fear of Nader works almost like homophobia!

Homophobes hate gays because they are insecure in their own sexuality, so they feel threatened by gays.

People that are secure in their own sexuality do not feel threatened by someone else's.

This fear of Nader I see in many threads in DU works almost like homophobia. I wonder if the people that are insecure in their own belief system, or in the "electability" of their candidate, are the ones that feel the most threatened by Nader.

People that are secure about their belief system and in their candidate, even if he has dropped out, do not feel threatened by a candidate like Nader who won't even have his name on the ballot of most states.

I don't see John Edwards having kittens about Nader!

[JHBowden]

53. Dean, Lieberman, Sharpton -- *everyone* has come out against this clown.

I detest Bush and loathe Ralph Nader, always regardless of how we're doing in the polls.

[jonnyblitz]

56. naderphobia. n/t

[Cheswick2.0]

52. Do you really imagine there is a huge group of Nader supporters here?

There are a handful of them. Maybe if you can ID them you could have them arrested and sent to Gitmo.