Bi-Partisanship? Are you KIDDING me?

[Mythsaje]

"Voters are tired of the fierce partisanship in Washington."

Well, good for them. Damn us for trying to stand up for the Constitution, and civil rights and liberties. Damn us for not allowing them to deconstruct the New Deal with no opposition whatsoever. Damn us for giving a shit.

Is someone actually going to try to tell us that the Republicans would ease up on their fierce attacks on everything remotely decent about America and all it will take is a leader who isn't "partisan," someone who plays well with both sides?

What does that even MEAN?

For the past thirty years or so, since the beginning of the Reagan era, they've been pounding away at the protections granted to us by not only the Constitution, but everything remotely civilized about America. They've led us into pre-emptive, unnecessary wars, they've attacked civil liberties with their "War On Drugs" and then their "War On Terror" and it's not getting any better. RW memes rule the day when it comes to these things and certain lowlife "journalists" decry "partisanship" when someone points out how wrong they are.

Their economic ideology is little better than the "law of the jungle," where the strong (the rich and/or ruthless) rule over all the lesser creatures.

Their cultural ideology is about sticking their noses in the homes and bedrooms of their fellow citizens.

And we're supposed to play NICE with these assholes? To what end? So we can even further justify their stances, their ideologies, and allow them to pretend that it's all for the better, that they're NOT either completely misguided or horribly corrupt?

No. We don't need bi-partisanship. We don't need someone who plays well with Republicans. We need someone willing to kick ass and chew bubble gum...but is all out of bubble gum.

Unless of course we want to continue down this eminently destructive path and dive over the cliff like mad lemmings at the trail of a evil pied-piper.

I can't believe a single one of us can possibly think this is, first, even possible, or, given that, even rational?

:banghead:

Un-fucking-believable.

[asdjrocky]

1. Great post! I'm with you, I don't want to work with these people-

I want to grind them into dust! k&r

[HuffleClaw]

2. what, that was a headline? n/t

[smokey nj]

3. Amen, Mythsaje!

The only way to defeat bullies is to stand up to them!

[Perry Logan]

4. Note how the media suddenly shills for bipartisanship--now that the Democrats are in the ascendency.

You heard no such calls for bipartisanship when the Repubs were busily gang-raping America. Now that it's all gone bad for them, they're reaching a friendly hand across the aisle.

Why shucks. Republicans are nice after all. Go ahead--let's trust them again. Go ahead!

[Snarkoleptic]

10. "...reaching a friendly hand across the aisle."

If by 'across', you mean under.
If by 'aisle', you mean public restroom stall partition.
Then I must agree with you wholeheartedly.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

25. It's just that Limbaugh, Coulter, and their slimy ilk slandered the left with

impunity for years without a complaint from the MSM, but the minute the left started fighting back (Air America, Fahrenheit 9/11, etc.), the MSM were full of laments about how "the political environment has gotten poisonous."

[TwilightZone]

5. Bi-partisanship is usually promoted only by the party not currently in power.

For obvious reasons.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

23. During the Reagan administration, the REPUBLICANS were constantly

scolding the Democrats for not being "bipartisan."

[gateley]

Maybe with a new Democratic President to suck up to, they'll change their tune

a bit. Some of them are probably okay, but are strapped by the R administration. I'm trying to be optimistic because until we get more Dems in Congress, we HAVE to work "with" them.

[Vincardog]

6. I do not cooperate with FASCIST . PERIOD

[Bjorn Against]

7. Great post Mythsage, I agree 100%.

Bipartisanship gave us the war in Iraq, bipartisanship gave us tens of millions without health care, bipartisanship gave us the Patriot Act, bipartisanship gave us Alito and Roberts, bipartisanship has consistently given us terrible legislation. I don't want someone who is well liked by those who are working against our best interests, I want someone who will fight for what is right.

[sellitman]

8. This is why Obama scares me.

although I perfer him to Hillary.

[Kucinich4America]

9. I'm tired of the partisanship in Washington myself

Namely, the corporatist, fascist, warmonger party which controls 97.5% of the Republicans and just enough of the Democrats to fuck most Senate votes.

[Greeby]

11. Sorry, I don't negotiate with terrorists nt

[Hydra]

12. I don't share values with the person who wants to send my job overseas

So why would I want to get along with him?

Wonderland gets fucking kookier by the minute.

[caseycoon]

13. Bipartisanship is the LAST

thing we need right now!

[sandnsea]

14. Your post says YOU are tired of it

Your post says you are sick of the partisan bullshit coming from the Republicans for the last 30 years. Aren't you saying you want a President who can expose it and defeat it, when necessary - and disarm it with logic and clarity the rest of the time.

[Mythsaje]

20. Indeed...which is why I support the only one with a history of fighting

and winning. Not fighting and losing.

[sandnsea]

27. The only one who loses more than Hillary

is Dennis Kucinich. The one who has fought the toughest battles and won is Barack Obama. Convincing a jury to feel bad for a little girl who got her guts sucked out isn't all that tough.

[Mythsaje]

29. Hey...a record for winning is a record for winning.

And that's not the only case he's ever fought.

[rucky]

15. I'm mostly with you, but I want to throw something out there:

What if we conducted our foreign policy with the same attitude?

[Bjorn Against]

16. Most of the rest of the world is already on our side and opposed to the neo-cons...

Our "partisanship" happens to have the support of the majority of the world's people so we can stick to our principles on issues of foreign policy and gain respect from the rest of the world at the same time.

[diane in sf]

17. I don't want no stinking bipartisanship--it doesn't exist. As the pugs have

said, its another word for date rape.

[onehandle]

18. We need a greater majority in Congress to put them firmly in the corner.

I know just the Democrat to extend our control on his coattails.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

24. If so, that needs to include a lot of wimpy Dems being replaced by

spiny Dems. They already HAVE the majority needed to block legislation, and they're not doing it.

[Riktor]

19. Intended Consequences...

1) Republicans spend like crazy, driving the nation into debt.

2) Republicans invariably screw up and get booted out of office.

3) Democrat takes office.

4) Democrat looks at the budget and screams, "HOLY SHIT! We gotta pay this off before the interest kills us!"

5) Democrat raises taxes.

6) Republicans immediately take to the air to condemn yet another "tax and spend liberal", who "raised taxes to pay for social programs."

7) Media outlets jump on the buzzword, which spreads like a virus through the homes of centrist and right wing Americans across the country.

8) People turn on the Democrats and elect another Republican disaster for another eight years.

9) Sensible Democrats take a look at said Republican's disastrous proposals, knowing full well they are, in fact, disastrous, and refuse to jump on board.

10) Opportunistic Republicans seize the day yet again, and point fingers at the Democrats for being "partisan".



After all, when Bush doesn't budge, regardless of the mountains of factual evidence which proves his "opinions" groundless, he is "STICKING TO HIS GUNS". Whenever the Democrats don't do exactly what the Republicans want them to do, they are being "partisan".

[ellisonz]

21. If you really gave a shit you would put winning ahead of ideological purity...

As one poster above noted, it has been said by the enemy that "bipartisanship means date rape." Now if you recall the 2000 election and the Bushism "uniter, not divider," people yucked it up and he won, and to this day we still mock it like as if it was some big fallacy. Well the truth is that I don't want to always been the one getting "raped," rather I want to take the other guys pride and dignity away from him by screwing him at the negotiating table and then acting like everything is A-OK to the electorate so my power becomes greater. People love this shit, and it ain't about you or I, it's about winning. Politics is fundamentally a balancing act. Deal with it.

:hide:

[Mythsaje]

28. No, I won't "deal with it."

Course, I'm not a cowardly appeaser, either.

[Perry Logan]

22. America has been in a state of civil war ever since 2000. Bipartisanship is treason.

[laureloak]

26. We DO need bi-partisanship. We need at least 3 active

parties participating in congressional decisions at all times.

No more one-party crap that threatens to destroy democracy.

[western mass]

30. A reason not to support Obama.

You don't cooperate with criminals.

[MadBadger]

31. You know this argument is complete and utter BS

And my opinion is not popular, but I dont think all republicans are criminals. I think their ideology is fucked up, but I dont....wait for it....I think some of them actually may be decent people. My best friend is an ignorant Republican, like some of the people in the senate. My girlfriend is somebody who thinks that Ron Paul speaks amazing truths, but she isnt a bad person

[WCGreen]

32. Sometimes you have to do what is right....

Not just what is popular...

And teh GOP is a party of obstructionists the like of we haven't seen since after the first world war...