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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:04 PM
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Hey March 2nd! Vote Edwards or you're missing the point..
Edited on Mon Feb-23-04 01:04 PM by jmoss
.....It seems like Kerry is already leading GW by 10 points. It seems like Kerry is the perfect candidate. But the problem is that once GW starts running his ads, and making more televised performances (i.e. the GOP machine starts moving full-throttle), those point gas are going to shrink. I'm an Edwards supporter, and I even think that he is leading GW: 53-45, is a partly a load of crap right now.

--Many Americans tend to flow with the media. It's in "our" collective nature.

--The media is flooding the airways with the ongoings of Democratic primaries & caucuses-many of which sample only who a portion of Democrats (much smaller than the amt. who will vote in November), only, either think "should" be, or "will" be the Dem nominee.

...Once the media hype becomes more balanced, the polls will shift in favor of GW.

..Once the dust settles from Boston in July, we''l be left with our only hope to take on George Bush.

....GW is already starting the negative campaigning. If Kerry prevails, he will fire back with tons of negative-centered retorts.

...In an already polarized general electorate, this "catching bees with strong, powerful nets", will yield only so many cross-over votes.

..John Edwards, on the other hand, while I'm sure he'll run his share of anti-Bush ads, will probably use his "catching bees with honey" style of politics.

..He will get plenty of financial support from those who are waiting to back the Dem.nominee.

..More people will be politically "seduced" by him. Time and time again, I have heard people from all over this country say, "You know? The more I see him, and the more I hear him..the more I come to really like John Edwards".

..And just as quickly, the 4+ debates will start...and John Edwards will kick some serious --a--s--!!!

And that is when the prospect of what the primaries have been telling us in places like Iowa, Wisconsin, S, Carolina, Missouri & Oklahoma: Many, many undecided voters will flock to Edwards. Far more than to GW..and far more than would have for John Kerry--with his dry, deliberate rhetoric.

Kerry doesn't have the charm that Edwards does.
Edwards will lose many millions of votes to Repug's. But John Edwards will get just enough, in the just the right paces, to give our party back the White House. And no matter who wins the White House for Democrats, this empowers all of those progressive Representatives, Senators, and Governors that we all love to root for. It takes away the Republican veto-bottom line!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:06 PM
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1. Nobody will be voting FOR Kerry.
The votes will be cast AGAINST Bush.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:08 PM
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2. your right, in part
Many are voting ABB. There are many undecideds. In making cold calls to Wisconsin. I heard a lot of anyone but Kerry. THESE folks have a right to stay home. Edwards can get these folks to the polls. That's important.
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katieforeman Donating Member (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:33 PM
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4. Right, we need togive people a reason to get out and vote innNovember
I like Kerry too. But he is much more vulnerable to attack than Edwards. There are plenty of dissafected Republicans and Independents, we need to give them a candidate they like.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:26 PM
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3. Come on.
Some people like Kerry. He doesn't really connect with me, but I see how he connects with lots of people. He's more than an anti-Bush vote.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:38 PM
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5. That's delusional.
Many, many of us have supported Sen Kerry from the beginning. Since before he even declared, as in my case. We do so in the belief that he is the best candidate our party can put forward. So far those who vote for Democrats have agreed with us resoundingly. To suggest that all votes for Kerry are "hold your nose" votes against shrub is delusional. You are entitled to your opinion. It is not universally held, though.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:54 PM
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6. I like Kerry, I really really like him!
Edited on Mon Feb-23-04 02:56 PM by emulatorloo
I have for a long time, though I had kinda forgotten about him for a while.

I like Edwards too.

On the other hand, I feel opposite of you re repug attacks and who will best be able to fight back.

Kerry has already demonstrated that he will fight them, and he is tough about it. He won't take any BS from them

See this press release:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0221d.html

Be sure and read the whole thing because there is some hot stuff here!

However, I worry that the GOP will paint Edwards as having absolutely no experience that would qualify him to be Commander in Cheif of the Armed Forces. They will ignore all the wonderful things Edwards says about "Two Americas" and jobs and just say he is not qualified to be President because America is at war. This will be an effective argument from the GOP, and there is really no answer that Senator Edwards can give other than "I will not let you frame the debate this way." And that will not be a good enough answer.

One the other hand, if they try the same tactic on John Kerry, he will speak w authority on the issues. Already he is planting the seeds that GWB is less qualified to be Commander in Cheif of the Armed Forces because he has broken faith with the troops. Kerry will then be able to frame the debate. . .to talk about Bush's record re jobs, ashcroft, etc etc.

Please understand that I like John Edwards and will happily work for him if he is the nominee. But also understand that I believe John Kerry has a better chance of dealing with attacks from the GOP and challenging the Bush admin, despite his less than stellar speaking abilities.

On edit. . .missing word, clarify thought
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:15 PM
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7. What point? War time preznit crowned at ground zero point?
What will they be debating about?

MATTHEWS: OK. I just want to get one thing straight so that we know how you would have been different in president if you had been in office the last four years as president. Would you have gone to Afghanistan?
EDWARDS: I would.
MATTHEWS: Would you have gone to Iraq?
EDWARDS: I would have gone to Iraq.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3131295/
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