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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:14 PM
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Primer Lesson: Obama sponsored and fought for 823 bills over 8 years as an Illinois lawmaker
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 10:24 PM by ClarkUSA
In this primary season, if you have two pockets, here's another small copy of a document that you would do well to carry as a sidecar:
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html

It's a small graphic the New York Times put together last summer highlighting some of the more than 800 bills Barack Obama sponsored
while in the Illinois Senate.

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On a day when the Clinton campaign went deeply negative and launched two attack websites, coordinated with a Times article, based on
3% of 4000 votes Obama cast in the Illinois state legislature (link: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/12/20/clinton_to_launch_attack_websites.html),
I thought it would be useful to take a look at some of the very progressive things he not only voted for during the same tenure, but a few
of the 823 bills he sponsored and fought for over those eight years...


:redbox: Universal healthcare

:bluebox: Renewable energy

:redbox: Embryonic stem cell research

:bluebox: Death penalty reform

:redbox: Lobbyist reform

:bluebox: Ending racial profiling

:redbox: Ending discrimination against GLBT

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Hmm, hard not to look at that graphic and think: wow, progressive down the line!

Yet strangely I keep reading that Obama is a "naive", anti-progressive, anti-change corporate Democrat. Paul Krugman, exclusively on the
basis of his disagreement on mandates and the fact that he once used a politically incorrect word in the same sentence as "Social Security",
says it's so.

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But I like to question my progressive heroes. I like to read widely among those with whom I agree and disagree.

And so I read how progressive policy planner Robert Reich, who implemented the Family & Medical Leave Act, disagrees, finds Obama's
approach more effective, and is fed up with the grandstanding: http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2007/12/democrats-should-stop-battling-over.html

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And then I read how liberal journalist and FDR biographer Jonathan Alter thinks that Krugman's recent critiques are poorly-supported and
poorly thought-out: http://www.newsweek.com/id/80882

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And then I take a look at Obama's state record again.

And I read a quite different, very positive assessment of his state record that the New York Times published a few months back:
In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


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And then I look at that famous speech at an Illinois anti-war rally that took place in October 2002, the same month Senators Biden,
Clinton, Dodd, and Edwards voted the Iraq Force Authorization into law: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

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Could it be that he's become a two-faced devil in the past three years?

I look at his votes in the US Senate to check, and find that he is the most liberal Senator among the four candidates currently serving
(Clinton is the least so): http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm

Hmm.

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I consider those issues that matter most to me that may not get as much play in the media: the dreadful Cuban embargo, clean tech
and energy independence, restoring our Constitution, and net neutrality and open standards.

And I discover:

1. Obama is the only candidate among the top three frontrunners that supports lifting the embargo, liberalizing family visits, and moving
toward normalized trade relations with Cuba: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/09/hillary-and-bar.html


2. A thorough review of Obama's energy plan reveals a surprising openness to ban traditional coal manufacture altogether, and shows a
generous investment of $50 billion in clean tech R&D. Grist approved! http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/10/8/13403/3579


3. Obama, a former constitutional law professor himself, is endorsed by the great liberal constitutional law scholar Laurence Tribe who
campaigns for him and calls him the "best student I ever had": http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98

4. Lawrence Lessig, head of Creative Commons and the leader of the net neutrality and copyright reform movement, switched from John
Edwards in 2004 to endorse Barack this time around: http://lessig.org/blog/2007/11/4barack.html

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Hmm, on all the things that matter to me...the rush to war with Iraq, the Cuban embargo, energy independence, restoring the Constitution,
and net neutrality... he's right in line with my values, and progressive as humble pie (or perhaps a Chicago deep-dish with some Hawaiian
pineapple).

So what's going on here? Is it something with the weather? Is Obama really a naive "Demoncrat" in a Goretex disguise?

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Or is it just...

...friggin' primary season? http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_12_02_archive.html#2495398911017374380


:shrug:


Originially posted at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/20/152430/02

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:21 PM
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1. Thanks, and bookmarked for all the great links! nt
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:22 PM
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2. thanks!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:28 PM
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3. That's funny...cause the Big Doggie said he only had one year experience...
prior to running for POTUS.

Pretty healthy progressive record.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:44 PM
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7. The Big Dog plays on a Big Stage...
As can be seen by his 8 years of proffering uncontrolled globalization!

That's experience.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:30 PM
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4. here's a spiffy graph
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:36 PM
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5. What, no comments from the Hillary peanut gallery? Facts getting in their way????
So predictable!

Keep this kicked for TRUTH
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:49 PM
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8. Stop voting Present!
Get over Iraq:P
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:38 PM
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6. Thanks for all this info.! I'm going to send it to a few people who I've gotten interested in Obama
:hi:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:19 AM
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10. Great! Hope it gets them FIRED UP!
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:13 PM
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17. She's buying his book "The Audacity of Hope" without me even mentioning it!
She went to his website and now is more interested in him than Hillary. (She was torn between the two for reasons other people say-she's "more experienced," "a fighter," and female). And even though she liked Obama, she didn't think he had enough necessary qualities to be president. She has now changed her opinion about him, unaware of all the things he's done in the past. She's now leaning towards Obama and I have a feeling after reading his book and the links you posted it will put her over to his side. :hi:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:09 PM
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18. Thanks for all you do, jenmito...
I have a feeling you have a wee bit to do with your friend's conversion to the Bright Side from the Dark Side. :hi:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:57 PM
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9. I am oh-so-far from the HPG*
Hillary Peanut Gallery referred to above

But I am also just tickled shitless by this crazy game of ping pong between the two camps. :popcorn: I mean, come on! It's like when your four-year-old comes running in with a fistful of dandelions and says "I brought you a bouquet, mommy!"

Sure Obama was an active and respectable state senator. I'm from Illinois; I liked him then and was proud that he made the keynote address and that he got elected to the US Senate (in the easiest laugher of a "contest" in history). But what exactly does it meant to have 'sponsored' some 800-plus bills? It means he said "me too" 800 plus times. And of those he voted 'correctly" on, how many passed? Did he have any effect whatsoever? Go dig out what bills he actually authored (I expect there is an impressive list), what uphill battles he led in floor fights to get populist bills passed over corporate objections.

You have sold me that his heart is in the right place (I already knew that). So is my Scottish terrier's (she agrees with everything I do). Doesn't mean she'd make a good effective president.



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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:41 AM
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11. Well, we all know that ClarkUSA wants to put all the facts on the table...
so it would be nice to have Clark list the bills that Obama voted present on.

Ummm, since he did bring the matter up.

There is no question that Obama is very bright. President of the Harvard Law Review does not go to dummies.

However, his lack of political experience still shows. His very recent admission that he is considering The Gropenator for an administrative job is a disaster.

As far as the Iraq excursion goes, Obama was not in the Senate to vote on the matter, no matter what he was doing in Illinois.

So anyway Clark, list the bills that Obama voted present on.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:11 AM
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12. Mind pointing me to where he said Arny would get a job?
Most I've seen is that he complimented him on the environmental work he was/is doing and commented that it was missing in Washington, nothing about a position for him
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:30 AM
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13. He never did say it. On the other hand, Bill said that Bush Sr. would work for Hillary.
Does that mean Bill's lack of political experience is showing?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:05 PM
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16. "So anyway Clark, list the bills that Obama voted present on."
Clark votes "Present" on that one! :rofl:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 01:32 PM
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19. For an alleged Richardson supporter, you sure like to spam positive Obama threads a lot
Why aren't posting your usual daily dozen Obama Hate OPs? Is Mark Penn too busy carving up the Christmas turkey to send
talking points to HillaryIs44?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 07:14 PM
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23. Do the work yourself... since you're so interested in 3% of Obama's 4000 votes
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 07:17 PM by ClarkUSA
I'm sure HillaryIs44, HillaryHub,Taylor Marsh, and the half-dozen more Obama attack websites The Clintonian Cackler's campaign has set up can help you.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:43 AM
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14. great post, thx. nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:01 PM
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15. Obama is the man
If you dismiss him as an empty suit or pro-corporate you are missing the bigger picture.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 01:33 PM
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20. cool, thanks. i was wondering about his career in the state senate, i'll read up.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 01:58 PM
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21. Great work!
Edited on Sun Dec-23-07 01:58 PM by calteacherguy
:thumbsup:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 01:59 PM
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22. "deeply negative?" Because his record was pointed out?
Sorry, your bias permeates the post--no credibility.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:03 PM
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24. This from one of the top Hillaryworld advocates of playing the Hillaryous gender/sexist card?
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 08:08 PM by ClarkUSA
Sorry, your venomous bias permeates every single reply you make in an Obama thread. Like Bill and Hillary, you have
no credibility, only obvious spin, when it comes to judging Obama.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:14 PM
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25. No one has suggested here that Obama is an 'empty suit.' ...
He is a superb speaker, his speech at the last convention was magnificent. The media chose not to broadcast it or to pre-empt it with something quite trivial.

The guy is intelligent. No one has said he is not.

Before I choose to back another candidate, I looked Obama over pretty carefully. He was worth the attention.

Bottom line for me is that I don't think he is ready at this time.

Of all our candidates, Hillary offers much more than the rest.

The fact that Obama is Black is a plus in my book. I would have voted for Shirley Chisholm years ago. Barbara Jordan never made the run. She was an absolutely brilliant woman. Shirley was a fighter--we need a fighter now. Hillary is that fighter.



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