Arnold Schwarzenegger, ahead of qualified Democrats, would be a fine addition to an Obama cabinet

[wyldwolf]

[terrya]

1. What for?

Seriously, what Department? He's Governor of California...but what Cabinet Department would he be qualified to run?

[rinsd]

4. That was gonna be my question.

[peacetalksforall]

2. Are you giddy this morning from something? No way. Thumbs down.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. .........

[Cha]

5. arnie sucks.

Who's brilliant strategy idea what this?

And, yeah, hillary's ideas and voting record suck even more.

[wyldwolf]

7. "hillary's ideas and voting record suck even more." How so?

[Cha]

14. Trying to smear obama

with personal attacks and her bushit enabling for the last 5 years.

And ol bill's goin' on charlie rose disingenuously stating that his experience trumps Obama's.
snip~
.."He had spent 11 years as governor of Arkansas. He was, he said on "Charlie Rose," "the senior U.S. governor." Well, yes, but of a state with a total population less than Chicago's. And Arkansas is not only small but poor, with an overwhelmingly rural economy."


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped1219clintondec19,0,4787815.story

And, bill coming up with the now infamous..
Clinton/Bush Ties

"But there is a history to the Clinton and Bush families possessing damaging secrets about the other, a kind of balance of terror in which the Bushes usually have the upper hand and the Clintons have chosen mostly to make concessions and seek favors from the more powerful family.

On Dec. 17 in South Carolina, Bill Clinton demonstrated that tendency, saying Hillary Clinton’s first act as President would be to send Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush on an around-the-world mission to repair America’s image.

“The first thing she intends to do is to send me and former President Bush and a number of other people around the world to tell them that America is open for business and cooperation again,” said Bill Clinton, who is proud that he has accompanied the senior Bush on many international humanitarian missions.

Clinton’s comment could be viewed as both a slap at George W. Bush and a kiss-up to his father. But the elder Bush responded icily through a spokesman, saying he supports his son’s foreign policy and “never discussed an ‘around-the-world mission’ with either former President Bill Clinton or Sen. Clinton.”

http://consortiumnews.com/2007/121907.html

And, I don't want her "Mama Warbucks" attitude anywhere near our White House(after it's been fumigated and exorcised)..

snip~

Mama Warbucks

"Her presidential campaign has received far more money from defense contractors than any other candidate -- Democrat or Republican -- and her close ties to the defense industry has led the Village Voice to refer to her as "Mama Warbucks." She has even fought the Bush administration in restoring funding for some of the very few weapons systems the Bush administration has sought to cut in recent years. Pentagon officials and defense contractors have given Senator Clinton high marks for listening to their concerns, promoting their products and leveraging her ties to the Pentagon, comparing her favorably to the hawkish former Washington Senator "Scoop" Jackson and other pro-military Democrats of earlier eras.."

http://www.alternet.org/election08/70860/

[wyldwolf]

17. "hillary's ideas and voting record suck even more." how so?

:shrug:

[rAVES]

39. If you have to ask... please... dont vote.

[Cha]

48. Or even trust himself

to go outside unattended. Typical hillary emissaries' rebuttal..ignore facts and bow down to the one who does no fucking wrong..bullshit.

Another tactic is to bring up and jackal around Obama's dumb stuff but defend to the stupid degree all the crap that hillary and bill, mark penn, bob kerrey, et al try to pass off ..down the pike.

[Occam Bandage]

6. For what position?

[Ignis]

33. Any. (nt)

[slackmaster]

8. The question is meaningless without specifics

Like what "qualified" Democrats we are talking about, which cabinet position, and some discussion of how qualified each person is for it.

[wyldwolf]

9. ok... got it.

;)

[Bitwit1234]

10. I'd say what Obama cabinet..????????

Do senators set up their own cabinets NOW???? Maybe someone should explain that to him.

[NavyDavy]

11. if does pick him for some position he can go the way of DK and

his Ron Paul comment....byebye

[Kucinich4America]

26. What about Hillary and her Colon Bowels/Poppy Bush comments?

I don't endorse Ron Paul, but at least he's against the insane, genocidal, fascist PNAC foreign policy, created by the very Bush Crime Family that the Clintons seem to be embracing.

[Bluestar]

12. Arnold is, at heart, a true Repuke

He only changed his tactics to more moderate when he was hounded day and night by the nurses and teachers here in California and thought he would lose the last election. He finally pandered to them and realized he had to make a shift to the middle in order to survive. I credit Maria with giving him some good advice. As such, he hasn't been a bad governor here.

But I say never give him an inch, because then you'll see his true colors. Rumor has it that he is going to run for Senate after his term is up--we need to defeat him and send him back to Hollywood.

[robbedvoter]

25. No, at heart he's a Hitler admirer, posing as a Repuke

[truebrit71]

13. Ahead of Hillary? Hell yes...

..at least with Arnie you KNOW you're dealing with a repuke, not just someone that votes like a repuke but talks like a Dem...

[wyldwolf]

16. based on your description, I'd swear you were referring to Obama

[truebrit71]

18. ..based on your response I' can tell you haven't seen his voting record...now YOUR candidate on the

..other hand...

In between voting for bankruptcy bills and authorizing illegal invasions of sovereign countries, sounds alot closer to what I actually said...

But you knew that....:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

19. well, let's compare voting records and stated position on important issues, then. Game?

[truebrit71]

20. Sure.

..knock yourself out..

Voted FOR credit card companies HRC - Yes BHO - No
Voted FOR iraq war HRC- Yes BHO - NO
Voted FOR iran war HRC- Yes BHO - NO

[wyldwolf]

29. here we go:

Voted FOR credit card companies HRC - Yes BHO - No

Obama voted against a 30 percent ceiling on charge card interest rates

Voted FOR iraq war HRC- Yes BHO - NO

He wasn't in the senate to vote on the original IWR but has stated he doesn't know how he would have voted had he been there.

Obama has the exact same votes as Clinton on Iraq, and when Senators Kerry and Feingold offered legislation on the floor to redeploy, Mr. Obama made a speech against it.

Voted FOR iran war HRC- Yes BHO - NO

There has been no vote on an Iran war. He skipped the vote that would have put him on the record in regards to the non-binding Kyl-Lieberman, even though he voted for similar legislation earlier in the year.

Right wing spin on social security Obama- yes Clinton - NO
Leaving millions uninsured in his "univeral access" health plan Obama yes Clinton - NO

[truebrit71]

35. Bullshit...

Obama did NOT vote on the B/K bill
Obama has ALWAYS been against the Iraq War
Clinton voted FOR war with IRAN with the Kyl/LIEberman vote...

Thanks for playing...

[wyldwolf]

38. would you like links to support what I posted?

LOL! You're losing it.

Kyl Lieberman was a non-binding resolution. Not sure you brits understand that.

However, Obama co-sponsored a bill entitled "The Counter-Proliferation Act of 2007." One provision goes like this:

(14) the United States should designate the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, which purveys terrorism throughout the Middle East and plays an important role in the Iranian economy, as a foreign terrorist organization under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, place the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps on the list of specially designated global terrorists, and place the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps on the list of weapons of mass destruction proliferators and their supporters;

:)

Obama was talked into giving his anti-war speech, made it as a part-time legislator in a blue state, downplayed it when he was elected Senator, removed references to it from his website, stated he didn't know how he'd vote for it had he been in the Senate, and has voted the same way Clinton has on Iraq since being elected.

[truebrit71]

41. Yawn...that's the best you got?

:eyes:

HRC = DLC/GOP-lite
Obama = Fresh Start
Edwards = Fresh Start

[wyldwolf]

47. LOL! You can't debunk any of it.

[Name removed]

27. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[sniffa]

30. nice

:thumbsup:

[wyldwolf]

32. that's funny. Everytime we get into these exchanges

YOUR posts get deleted. Seems you're being the asshole.

[truebrit71]

36. Funnier still is going to be listening to you whine after she loses...

...:rofl:

Oh, and the deleted message in this thread is because you shut off your PM's....:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

40. what's that I see?

DELETED MESSAGE!! ..and you think one of your messages was deleted in an open forum because I shut off my private messages? :rofl:

[truebrit71]

42. Yup...you don't have the stones to take criticism privately...so the mods do it for you publicly...

...How HRC of you..

The votes in Iowa can't come soon enough...

Then maybe you'll pipe the hell down...

[wyldwolf]

46. so the mods take criticism for me publicly? Huh?

How... stunningly nonsensical.

[dionysus]

34. i wish i could recommend this post

[TwilightGardener]

15. Depends.

[OHdem10]

21. Can someone explain why our party has to be appeasers

and Triangulators.

Bush put a token Democrat as Sec Of Transportation. What did this
really accomplish??

If someone gets elected that is soon enough to talk about
BI-Partison appointments.

[xxqqqzme]

22. he's not qualified to be governor; what could he

possibly do in a cabinet position? Education? Ask California teachers; HHS? Labor? ask California nurses, police & firefighters. He is a bought & paid for corporate shill. The current coastal commission is proof of that.

[LeftishBrit]

23. I voted no..

but it occurs to me that he might have less potential to do harm in certain cabinet posts (obviously not Sec of State or similar), than as Governor of California. It could be one way of kicking him upstairs and perhaps getting a Dem as Governor.

[robbedvoter]

24. Yeah, cuz we need some pedigreed nazis on our ticket - sig heil!

The Bushes will be jealous!

[no name no slogan]

28. Only if they create a new "Department of Pumpitude"

then he could be the Secretary of Pumpitude

[bullwinkle428]

44. Hear me now and believe me later!

[ShaneGR]

31. Maybe on environmental issues?

I know he's actually been quite liberal on environmental law in California.

[BestCenter]

37. That's what I was thinking of as well.

I'd like to hear some rebuttals.

[Perry Logan]

43. It's best to regard Republicans as traitors till we can get them shipped out of the country.

[jefferson_dem]

49. I wonder if Hillary would pick a Repug Secretary of Defense...like Bill did.

Hmmmm...

[Little Star]

45. Someone tell Obama Arnie is a repug & a gropper of women.

NO wonder every one is saying he's not experienced enough to be president.