Hillary says her inaugural address will cause oil to drop to $60 or $70 a barrel

[BeyondGeography]

Clinton pledges to stand up to oil-rich nations

Independence, Ia.- Hillary Clinton promised this morning, in the town of Independence, that she will send a defiant message to oil-producing countries during her inaugural address, if she's elected president. Reliability is one of the new themes in Hillary Clinton's stump speech. And one of the vows she's making is to slash America's dependence on foreign oil.

"If I tell you I'll stick with you, I stick with you," she told a crowd of about 350, repeating a theme that has popped up frequently on the campaign trail this week. "If I tell you I'll fight for you, I'll fight for you."

America will be the country that leads the way toward energy independence, she said after arriving about an hour late by car after pea-soup weather prevented her from flying from Des Moines to Waterloo.

"When I stand up in my inaugural address and say to the entire world, particularly the oil-producing countries, We're not going to be taken for a ride any longer. We're going to stand up and say enough, ... when I say that, those countries will know because they follow our elections, they follow what we do in our politics as closely as we do, they'll know that I always try to do what I say."

Clinton, a U.S. senator from New York, predicted her words would cause the price of oil to suddenly drop, to $60 or $70 a barrel. Oil was $20 a barrel when President Bush took office, she said...

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/NEWS/71219038/-1/caucus

[DS1]

1. When I stand up in my inaugural address

alrighty then

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

51. At least she didn't say coronation..

[glowing]

2. Hmm...

That would be nice, but its not the most important thing weighing on my mind in theses elections... Shoot, if we were paid for the increased costs of inflation and for the adjustment that needs to happen with oil, we'd be able to pay for it.

I guess she has it all worked out with the powers that be.

[Cha]

21. Right! Not the important thing.

But, hey, I bet it's riveting to lots of people who need that oil dropped.

[hatrack]

3. When I give MY Inaugural Address, roasted Cornish game hens will fall from the skies!!

And there will be sides of onions rings and roasted vegetables, and new sets of tires will miraculously appear on every American's car!

:eyes:

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[hatrack]

20. Did I mention they'll be steel-belted radial low-rolling-resistance tires that'll boost your MPG?

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

22. Cornish game hens? lol!

But, do the leaders of other countries know you keep your word?

[hatrack]

45. They'll look funny trying to denounce me with big mouthfuls of chicken, I kid you not!

:toast:

[AlGore-08.com]

23. When I give MY inaugural address, Jesus will personally give every American their own genie!

And a Nintendo Wii!

[bunnies]

4. Is that even plausible? nt

[hatrack]

5. No way in hell - what's she going to do, brandish an ear of corn and scare them with Mighty Ethanol?

India - oil consumption up 404% 1980 - 2006
China - oil consumption up 440% 1980 - 2006

China's oil consumption by 2020 at current rates of demand growth - 18.5 million barrels a day.

Whatever, Hillary.

[bunnies]

7. Thats what I thought.

Why the hell would she say something like that? It seems so absurd to me. Makes her look like she doesnt know what shes talking about.

[Tom Rinaldo]

17. She has a point, and so do you.

Short term movements in the price of oil are fueled by increases in world tensions, short term economic uncertainties, risk of middle east oils supplies being disrupted, etc. If you accept her assertion about the type of presidency she would run (which clearly is open to debate) then it is plausible that Clinton getting sworn into office, coupled with major announcements about the types of international diplomatic initiatves she says whe will take, could have an immediate calming effect on oil commoditiy trading. Few would argue that Bush's Middle East policies haven't significantly negatively impacted the price of oil. The sharp suden upward price spikes we have seen take place in oil prices during the last year can't be pegged to ongoing industrialization in China and India.

But in the longer run, over a matter of several years to a decade, prices of Oil will continue to do climb over today's prices for the reasons you give, even with a toatal reversal of Bush's policies. The only thing that could mitigate against continuing steep rises would be massive gains in conservation and alternative fuels and energy sourses.

[BeyondGeography]

19. Paul Tsongas' pander bear was made for these moments

[SoxFan]

24. EXACTLY!!!

That's the very same thought that came into my mind.

It's no coincidence that Paul Tsongas' daughter is a field organizer for Barack Obama!

[BeyondGeography]

25. Break out the bear!

[ellisonz]

52. "When I am inaugurated, all of your wildest dreams will come true."

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. Except what I said was true. n/t

[Strelnikov_]

46. No, most likely not even her husband is buying this one

See post 44

[Why Syzygy]

6. This is embarassing.

High oil prices are due mainly to speculation in oil futures. The investors have driven it up. Can she really be this misinformed?

[jgraz]

8. She's not misinformed. She's hoping we are.

That's been the heart of her campaign all along: betting that we're stupid enough to swallow her bullshit and nominate her.

[Cha]

26. She was obtuse enough

to enable bushit even after his numbers fell..That's gotta be missing something in the gray matter area.

Or there's an undercurrent goin' on that has yet to be brought to the surface concerning the bush dynasty and the clintons.

[jgraz]

32. Hmm...I have to disagree. I don't think she's stupid at all

I think it's all cynical attempts to manipulate the voters. "See? I'm tough -- I can vote to kill people!"

OK, maybe she's a little stupid to think we'd buy it, but I think it's mostly arrogance and raw ambition.

[Cha]

33. Okay, a

compassion cell.

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. Votong to kill people makes oil prices go up...

...at least use your attack lines in the appropriate context.

[jgraz]

37. You know that and I know that.

Hillary's betting the rest of the unwashed masses don't know that.

[Mother Of Four]

9. Uh.....

:wtf:

That's not how it works in the real world Mrs. Clinton

Sorry.


This is going to backfire on her bigtime, people do NOT like being make promises that are so obviously unable to hold water.

The majority of people expect Politicians to make odd promises, but it usually goes like these lyrics here....

"Lie to me, I promise...I'll believe"

Not "Dump a whole pile of crap on my head and call it shampoo, telling me to ignore the smell."

[bunnies]

13. lol. Ironically, Sham-Poo is exactly what it is. nt

[Mother Of Four]

14. heh

:silly:

[Mother Of Four]

28. You inspired me to make a new graphic.....

This can be used for politicians of any flavor :)

[bunnies]

30. !!

:rofl: Its perfect! Nice work!

[Armstead]

10. Sort of like she walked away from health care after the first round?

[rAVES]

11. Witch craft is frowned upon by the fundies!!!

[flvegan]

12. "...they'll know that I always try to do what I say."

Solid, Hillary. I'm sure you've got them all quaking in their boots.

Laughable.

[AlGore-08.com]

27. My favorite part was the use of "if". "If I tell you I'll stick with you, I stick with you."

IF not WHEN.

Somebody really needs to tell her and her speech writers that this type of sentence construction increases the perception that she's without convictions or political courage. It's such a simple thing to pledge to "stick with" regular folks. It doesn't tie her down to a specific policy or time line. Sheesh.

[DiverDave]

15. oh please.

sure.

[zbdent]

18. So, they don't print the quote where they claim she says the oil will drop to x per barrel ...

expecting full honesty in reporting? Don't hold your breath ...

[slackmaster]

29. I actually believe an inaugural address could have an effect like that

But Hillary doesn't have a clue how to write it.

[Speck Tater]

34. Just what we need: Another delusional president. nt

[dailykoff]

36. I think somebody handed her Cheney's speech.

Fortunately, nobody noticed.

[AngryAmish]

38. This is just fits with her pattern of Elitism

She believes that she is good and just and smart smart smart and she will bestow little gifts to us poor stupid Amerikuns.

Look at her Christmas commercial. She is "giving" us gifts, like healthcare, universal pre-k, etc. Listen, you arrogant SOB, if and when we get these things, we earned them and we pay for them. You give us NOTHING!!!

The only way for her decisions to crater the price of oil is if she bombs the oil terminals of China, India and a few other major importers.

[BeyondGeography]

39. That was Tweety's take on the commercial this morning

Spot-on.

[AngryAmish]

48. Oh God, I agree with Tweety!?!

I need a shower.

[BeyondGeography]

50. Sorry to break it to ya

But since he hops around a lot, just about all of us find ourselves in the shower at one time or another.

[zulchzulu]

40. Oh gosh, Hillary! That is so cool you have that kind of power!

:sarcasm:

[sandnsea]

41. And then she's gonna jawbone 'em

When are people going to reject this blustering bullshit.

[Occam Bandage]

43. Perfect analogy. This will come back to bite her in the ass.

[Occam Bandage]

42. Hoping the Supreme Court will overturn the laws of supply and demand?

Oil ain't getting any cheaper, guys.

[Strelnikov_]

44. (Bill) Clinton: "We May Be At Peak Oil"

Speech: The Opportunity for Private Citizens to Effect Positive Change in an Increasingly Interdependent World
4/24/06

http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/5728

. . .

The Indians and Chinese are in this huge fight now to see who can get the most oil. We may be at a point of peak oil production. You may see $100 a barrel oil in the next two or three years, but what still is driving this globalization is the idea that is you cannot possibly get rich, stay rich and get richer; if you don’t release more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. That was true in the industrial era; it is simply factually not true. What is true is that the old energy economy is well organized, financed and connected politically.

. . .


Clinton raises alarm about oil depletion
6/22/06

http://www.energybulletin.net/17470.html

Former U.S. president Bill Clinton has urged newspaper editors to focus more attention on the depletion of the world’s oil reserves. In a June 17 speech to the Association of Alternative Newsweeklies convention in Little Rock, Arkansas, Clinton said a “significant number of petroleum geologists” have warned that the world could be nearing the peak in oil production. Clinton suggested that at current consumption rates (now more than 30 billion barrels per year, according to the International Energy Agency), the world could be out of “recoverable oil” in 35 to 50 years, elevating the risk of “resource-based wars of all kinds”.

During a question-and-answer period, the Georgia Straight asked Clinton if he believed that Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, and United Arab Emirates had exaggerated claims about their proven oil reserves. The four Persian Gulf states are among the six nations with the greatest listed proven reserves. (Canada and Iraq are the other two.) “I don’t know if they’re overstating their reserves,” Clinton replied. He added that he expects oil prices will reach US$100 per barrel “in five years or less”.

. . .

At the AAN convention, Clinton delivered a detailed scientific explanation of some of the problems with the Ghawar oil reservoir. Clinton echoed Simmons’s claim that massive amounts of water have been injected into Ghawar to maintain oil pressure. “It implies less oil than we previously thought,” Clinton said.

Clinton also recommended that everyone at the convention read The Empty Tank: Oil, Gas, Hot Air, and the Coming Global Financial Catastrophe (Random House, 2005), by Jeremy Leggett, a petroleum geologist and international campaigner for Greenpeace. Clinton also emphasized the importance of developing the alternative-energy industry and weaning his country off its dependence on imported oil. He claimed that promoting renewable power would also stimulate the American economy.

[Capn Sunshine]

47. She must have some XOI LEAP Puts

February 08? Hillary has a proven skill in the futures market

[HuffleClaw]

49. *snicker*

ok, now its getting just silly

[K Gardner]

53. More Pearls of Wisdom... I'm simply speechless.