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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:48 AM
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Hillary's excellent record.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:53 AM by Perry Logan
At the risk of being old-fashioned, here's Hillary Clinton's excellent record, refuting pretty much everything her detractors say about her:

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Humane Society of the United States 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Trust for Historic Preservation 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Education Association 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Children's Defense Fund 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Association of University Women 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Organization for Women 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 91 percent in 2006.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 100 percent in 2005

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent from 1988-2003 (Senate) or 1991-2003 (House).

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Public Health Association 80 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 93 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 84 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 88 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 83 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Committee for an Effective Congress 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 100 percent in 2005.

According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 80 percent of the Senators.

According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on social policy issues than 83 percent of the Senators.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Alliance for Retired Americans 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 92 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Bread for the World 100 percent in 2003-2004.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Partnership for the Homeless 100 percent in 2003-2004.
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=WNY99268

She was promoting universal coverage before it was cool. Furthermore she helped to create the SCHIP program. And most importantly she was dead on in the debate the other week where she said political will was the most important thing needed to push health care reform through and we know without a doubt she has that.

She has fougt unrelentingly for a woman's right to choose as well as women's rights both domestically and abroad

Create a Strategic Energy Fund - Hillary has proposed a Strategic Energy Fund that would inject $50 billion into research, development and deployment of renewable energy, energy efficiency, clean coal technology, ethanol and other homegrown biofuels. Hillary's proposal would give oil companies a choice: invest in renewable energy or pay into the fund. Hillary's proposal would also eliminate oil company tax breaks and make sure that oil companies pay their fair share for drilling on public lands. Instead of sending billions of dollars to the Middle East for their oil, Hillary's proposal will create a new clean energy industry in America and create tens of thousands of jobs here.

Champion a Market-Based "Cap and Trade" Approach - Hillary supports a market-based, cap and trade approach to reducing carbon emissions and fight global warming. This approach was used successfully to limit sulfur dioxide and reduce levels of acid rain in the 1990s. By capping the amount of emissions in the environment and allowing corporations to buy and sell permits, this approach offers corporations a flexible, cost-efficient method to do their share to reduce emissions and combat global warming. The program will reduce emissions, drive the development of clean technologies, and create a market for projects that store carbon dioxide.

20% Renewable Electricity Standard by 2020 - Hillary believes we need to shift our reliance on high carbon electricity sources to low-carbon electricity sources by investing in renewable energy sources, such as solar and wind. As President, she'll work to require power companies to obtain 20 percent of their energy from renewable sources by 2020.

Make Federal Buildings Carbon Neutral - Hillary believes that the federal government should lead the way in reducing carbon emissions from buildings. Buildings account for 40 percent of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, and the federal government owns or leases more than 500,000. Hillary would require all federal buildings to steadily increase the use of green design principles, energy efficient technologies, and to generate energy on-site from solar and other renewable sources. By 2030, all new federal buildings and major renovations would be carbon neutral, helping to fight global warming and cutting the $5.6 billion that the federal government spends each year on heating, cooling and lighting.

Protecting Against Exposure to Toxic Chemicals - Hillary wants to make the products we use safer, especially for children. There are tens of thousands of chemicals used in the U.S. and hundreds of new chemicals introduced each year, but little health testing is conducted for many of them. Hillary would require chemical companies to prove that new chemicals are safe before they are put on the market, and would set more stringent exposure standards for kids. She would also create a "priority list" of existing chemicals and require testing to make sure they are safe. To improve our understanding of the links between chemicals and diseases like cancer, Hillary would create an "environmental health tracking network" that ties together information about pollution and chronic diseases.

Hillary's Record

In the White House, Hillary led efforts to make adoption easier, to expand early learning and child care, to increase funding for breast cancer research, and to help veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome who had too often been ignored in the past. She helped launch a national campaign to prevent teen pregnancy and helped create the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, which moved children from foster care to adoption more quickly and the number of children who have moved out of foster care into adoption has increased dramatically.

She was instrumental in designing and championing the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which has provided millions of children with health insurance. She battled the big drug companies to force them to test their drugs for children and to make sure all kids get the immunizations they need through the Vaccines for Children Program. Immunization rates dramatically improved after the program launched.

Hillary has been a leading member of the Environment and Public Works Committee since she was elected to the Senate. Today, she chairs the Superfund and Environmental Health Subcommittee and in that capacity has promoted legislation to evaluate and protect against the impact of environmental pollutants on people's health and clean up toxic waste.

Global warming and Clean Air
Spoken out forcefully about the need to tackle global warming in hearings, speeches, rallies and on the Senate floor and co-sponsored "cap and trade" legislation.
Worked to reduce air pollution that causes asthma and other respiratory diseases by writing and helping to pass new laws to clean up exhaust from school buses, and other diesel-powered equipment.
Supported legislation to reduce pollution from power plants, including harmful emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, mercury, and carbon dioxide - emissions that contribute to poor air quality, smog, acid rain, global warming, and mercury contamination of fish.
Aggressively fought the Bush Administration's ill-advised attempts to weaken clean air laws.

Improving Water Quality and Protecting Drinking Water
Helped to overturn the Bush Administration's attempt to allow more arsenic in drinking water.
Cosponsored legislation to protect lakes, rivers and coastal waters by fighting the spread of destructive invasive species, such as the zebra mussel.
Helped ot pass new clean water laws, including measures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound.

Protecting Public Lands
Fought oil company efforts to pen the Artic Wildlife Refuge in Alask and Pacific and Atlantic coastal waters to drilling.
Cosponsored the Roadless Area Conservation Act, which prohibits road construction and logging in unspoiled, roadless areas of the National Forest System, and voted for additional funding and manpower to combat forest fires in the west.

Reducing Dangerous Chemicals and Cleaning Up Hazardous Waste
Supported legislation to restore the "polluter pays" principle by reinstating a chemical company fee to fund cleanups of highly contaminated "Superfund" waste sites.
Cosponsored the "kids-Safe Chemical Act," which requires chemical companies to provide health and safety before putting new chemicals in consumer products.
Proposed legislation to create an environmental health tracking network to enable us to better understand the impact of environmental hazards on human health and well-being.

Tackling the Toxic Legacy of 9/11
Pushed for health care benefits for first responders, residents and others whose health has been impacted from breathing the toxic dust and smoke in New York City after 9/11.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/8/20/134810/677

Hillary Clinton co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977. In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom she had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation, and she served in that capacity from 1978 through the end of 1981. For much of that time she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so. During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million, and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.

Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Clinton became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years. Bill appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

Hillary Clinton chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992, where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system. One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.

And a bit of stuff from the White House years:

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare. She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.

The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.<124> She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.<125> She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.<43> The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.<43> Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.<43> In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.<43> As First Lady, Clinton hosted numerous White House Conferences, including ones on Child Care (1997),<126> Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997),<127> and Children and Adolescents (2000),<128> and the first-ever White House Conferences on Teenagers (2000)<129> and Philanthropy (1999).<130>

Hillary Clinton traveled to over eighty countries during this time,<131> breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.<132> In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself.<133> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<134><135> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

"...Hillary Clinton traveled to over eighty countries during this time,<131> breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.<132> In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself.<133> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<134><135> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries..."

More:
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/israel/index.cfm
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/darfur


The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
easures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound.

HILLARY'S EXPERIENCE ON THE WORLD STAGE:

Her historic speech at the UN Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing in 1995 not only galvanized women around the world, it helped spawn a movement that led to advances politically, legally, economically, and socially for women in many countries over the next decade. Among other initiatives, she spearheaded the Clinton Administration's efforts to combat the global crisis of human trafficking. She persuaded the First Ladies of the Americas to use their collective power to eradicate measles and improve girls' education throughout the western Hemisphere. And she is widely credited with helping women in Kuwait finally win the right to vote.

As First Lady and now as a two-term senator who represents the most ethnically diverse state in the nation and who sits on the Armed Services Committee, Hillary Clinton has become a fixture on international issues over the past 15 years. She has traveled to more than 80 countries, going from barrios to rural villages to meetings with heads of state. She has consulted with dozens of world leaders - Nelson Mandela, King Abdullah, Tony Blair among them -- on matters as diverse as America and NATO's roles in Kosovo, eradicating poverty in the Third World, and the plight of women living under the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Today, she is one of the most influential voices in the world on human rights, democracy, and the promotion of a "new internationalism" in foreign affairs that calls for a balanced use of military force, diplomacy, and social development to strengthen American interests and security globally.

While American First Ladies historically have made great (and often overlooked) contributions to our nation, Hillary Clinton's wide-ranging experience on international issues as First Lady is unprecedented. Indeed, she is the only First Lady to have delivered foreign policy addresses at major gatherings of the United Nations, the World Bank, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the World Economic Forum.

"Four Reasons I Support Hillary"
markw

Hillary Clinton has been fighting for the rights of children for special needs for decades. In her first job out of law school working for the Children's Defense Fund, she conducted research that led to Congress passing the Education for All Handicapped Children Act of 1975, the landmark bill mandating that all children with disabilities be educated in the public school system. later, she helped improve the education of children with special needs by working to reauthorize the Individuals with Disabilities in Education Act. In 2005, she sponsored an amendment to increase funding for the act by $4 billion dollars. She also cosponsored the Personal Excellence for Children with Disabilities Act, a bill that promised to help schools recruit and retain new special education teachers, and better prepare general education teachers and staff to work with children with special needs.

Most recently, she has called for greatly expanded funding to the National Institute for Health to investigate treatments for children with disabilities. And she has put forth a comprehensive and detailed plan to help children and families affected by autism, with numerous elements that correspond very closely to what families in the autism community have been demanding for years.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/18/192326/11/972/423135
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:52 AM
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1. yeah, but can she cook? nt
nt
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:54 AM
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2. Doh!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:54 AM
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3. But what about the IWR? The Patriot Act? NCLB?
Sorry, but when it comes to a lot of the "big" issues, Hillary caves and takes the corporate/conservative line. When is she planning on getting combat troops out of Iraq? Oh yeah, that's right, she isn't.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:59 AM
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8. Hush!
It's the number of issues a person votes on, not the importance of those issues. In your warped world, voting for an insane war is more important than, say, voting to increase in funding for a wildlife sanctuary or whatnot. The fact that Clinton consistantly votes hard right on the big issues is more than offset by her left votes on the little stuff.

You're a sick, sad person.

(yes, :sarcasm:)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:04 AM
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13. Who else running voted for the IWR, The Patriot Act and NCLB?
It's absurd to attack Clinton for those votes unless you're willing to attach the same blame to others who are running who voted precisely the same.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:04 AM
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20. Pfft, lets see here
Hillary is the current frontrunner, Hillary hasn't apologized, or truly modified her stance on those votes, nor does she recognize the mistake that she made. The others who did vote for any, or all of those issues have at least had the courtesy to apologize for their mistake and modify their position. Sorry, but your tactic is a smokescreen, designed to protect Hillary. Oh, by the by, I'm supporting Dennis, who has voted on the right side of both the big and small issues, can Clinton say the same?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:44 AM
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26. she did modify her position - as in If I knew then what I know now
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:48 AM
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And she has also continued to promise to keep combat troops in Iraq
And that those troops will be going on combat missions for the foreseeable future. That's some modification that she's undergone there now, isn't it?

And frankly, her tired old excuse of "if I knew then. . ." is wearing thin. Millions of people across this country and around the world knew fucking better, knew that Bush would use the IWR to go to war, and actively worked against its passage. If you, and she, are saying that she is that foolish, that uninformed when she made this vote, then quite frankly she isn't bright enough to hold the top job now is she.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:51 AM
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28. All of the top three confirmed troops remain - "combat" troops in Iraq vs in Kuwait is Edwards
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:59 AM
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29. Oh, so you're going for the defense that it is all OK if others are doing the same thing eh?
Sorry, but that argument simply doesn't fly, and the cold hard fact of the matter is that Hillary, the current front runner, has promised, on repeated occasions, to keep combat troops going on combat missions in Iraq for the foreseeable future. This isn't right, no matter how many others are doing the same thing. Oh, and not all of the candidates are following this path. Perhaps you should find one who isn't:shrug:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:50 PM
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40. Richardson/Edwards/DK pull combat troops into Kuwait, leave only training and force protection troop
in Iraq -

I have forgotten the Dodd and Biden positions - do you recall?

Which candidate or group of candidates do you support as to their Iraq position - and what is that position?

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:26 AM
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33. Why do you keep distorting her position on Iraq? You have posted it several times
here on DU just this morning--and it is a lie. Her stance on Iraq is no different than any other candidate except Kucinich.

She has addressed those votes time and again. You can disagree, but remember who else voted to give Bush Authority to invade Iraq--nearly every other candidate.

Kyle/Lieberman: NOT A VOTE FOR WAR. Read the damn thing! And, Edwards / Obama (who didn't even bother to vote) and Biden have all made speeches warning Iran of terrorism and of nuclear threats. So, your attempts to single out Clinton are lies.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:57 AM
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4. On the other hand she voted for legislation that has her in a bind.
At this point in the game, she still felt it necessary to vote the kyl-lieberman against Iran... No more business as usual.. Its killing people.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:58 AM
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5. The Hillary bashers don't care about facts
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:59 AM
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7. Not most of them, anyway. You'll notice they tend to be fixated on one or two issues or votes.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:01 AM
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10. Insane War... Job-Obliterating "Free" Trade With China...
Whatever. The little stuff.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:06 AM
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14. Insane war: Clinton, Edwards, Biden and Dodd
Free trade with China: Not sure about Biden and Dodd, but Edwards voted for it. I could go on. I know consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, but it's ridiculous to give the others a pass, and when you act as if she's the only one with this record of votes, that's what you're doing.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:12 AM
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23. You are correct - Edwards, Biden and Dodd
all voted for the insane war. Dennis Kucinich did not.

Just because Edwards, Biden and Dodd made the same mistake as Hillary does not justify her mistake.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:40 AM
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18. There's a huge difference between bashers and non-supporters
And, Clinton never voted for war with Iraq. The China trade is a discussion to have with almost every single candidate out there.

HRC has a solid record.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 10:32 AM
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31. If She Didn't Want War, She Could Have Voted For Levin's Bill
Look, 2/3rds of Americans polled at the time believd that Bush had made up his mind to go to war. Moreover, most Democrats in Congress made the correct choice - they voted to not go to war.

Clinton can try to hide behind her standard "I was for it AND against it" rhetoric. But the facts are really plain here.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:59 AM
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6. Is there an agency that
rates candidates as to pro neocon ratings. Hillary probably has a positive there too.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:00 AM
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9. Just the opposite. From my original post...
The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:04 AM
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11. This is a rerun - been posted many, many times already.
But the bottom line is, she has a very poor record that she can't explain. Kyl-Liebermann, she voted for the Iraq war and hasn't really addressed why she did, The Patriot Act, etc.

Plus, she's taking money from lobbyists who represent the big corporations, who are at fault for many of the things that go against the American people today. They are going to expect something in return for that money, and Hillary is going to have to give it to them. In short, a Hillary Presidency will be business as usual in Washington for American corporations. And that isn't good. It's a continuation of many of the Bush policies.

It's time for CHANGE in America. Not just a change of face, a change of name, and new promises. It's time for REAL CHANGE. Hillary will not bring real change, and that's why voting for her is a mistake. We need CHANGE, not more of the same.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:04 AM
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12. Anti-Hillarites also have to explain why African Americans like her so much. Are they stupid?
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 08:05 AM by Perry Logan
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:08 AM
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15. Why does anyone have to explain that?
Some African Americans voted for George BUsh also. African Americans don't vote in lock step just like Whites don't do this.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:10 AM
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16. I meant that blacks are strongly pro-Hillary. As are gays.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:11 AM
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17. How did she vote yesterday?
Did she cast a no vote for giving the chimp more funds for Iraq?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:00 AM
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19. K & R
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:05 AM
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21. K&R!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:12 AM
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22. Thanks again Perry,
her record gets overlooked in all the trashing.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:22 AM
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24. Thank you. I never get tired of reading this & somethng for you.>>













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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:25 AM
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25. Hillary Clinton on Iraq
Please note that among other things Hillary Clinton "took credit for strengthening U.S. ties with Ahmad Chalabi" - from the second paragraph quoted below.



http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/12/5788/

Published on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 by Foreign Policy in Focus
Hillary Clinton on Iraq
by Stephen Zunes


. . .

Pre-War Militarism

Senator Clinton’s militaristic stance on Iraq predated her support for Bush’s 2003 invasion. For example, in defending the brutal four-day U.S. bombing campaign against Iraq in December 1998 - known as Operation Desert Fox - she claimed that “he so-called presidential palaces … in reality were huge compounds well suited to hold weapons labs, stocks, and records which Saddam Hussein was required by UN resolution to turn over. When Saddam blocked the inspection process, the inspectors left.” In reality, as became apparent when UN inspectors returned in 2002 as well as in the aftermath of the invasion and occupation, there were no weapons labs, stocks of weapons or missing records in these presidential palaces. In addition, Saddam was still allowing for virtually all inspections to go forward at the time of the 1998 U.S. attacks. The inspectors were withdrawn for their own safety at the encouragement of President Clinton in anticipation of the imminent U.S.-led assault.

Senator Clinton also took credit for strengthening U.S. ties with Ahmad Chalabi, the convicted embezzler who played a major role in convincing key segments of the administration, Congress, the CIA, and the American public that Iraq still had proscribed weapons, weapons systems, and weapons labs. She has expressed pride that her husband’s administration changed underlying U.S. policy toward Iraq from “containment” - which had been quite successful in defending Iraq’s neighbors and protecting its Kurdish minority - to “regime change,” which has resulted in tragic warfare, chaos, dislocation, and instability.

Prior to the 2003 invasion, Clinton insisted that Iraq still had a nuclear program, despite a detailed 1998 report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), subsequent studies that indicated that Iraq’s nuclear program appeared to have been completely dismantled a full decade earlier, and a 2002 U.S. National Intelligence Estimate that made no mention of any reconstituted nuclear development effort. Similarly, even though Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons programs had been dismantled years earlier, she also insisted that Iraq had rebuilt its biological and chemical weapons stockpiles. And, even though the limited shelf life of such chemical and biological agents and the strict embargo against imports of any additional banned materials that had been in place since 1990 made it physically impossible for Iraq to have reconstituted such weapons, she insisted that “It is clear…that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”

(more at link . . .)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:48 AM
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27. Zunes writes much but forgets 16 intel agencies disagreed with him in October 2002.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 10:28 AM
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30. Senator Clinton may have been fooled by the bogus claims
of the 16 intel agencies, but millions of Americans and others worldwide were not. How is it that ordinary citizens, with nothing more than an Internet connection knew the claims were false, while a U.S. Senator with a full time staff did not?



http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/12/5788/

. . . In the months leading up the war, Senator Clinton chose to ignore the pleas of the hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating in her state and across the country against the war and similarly brushed off calls by religious leaders, scholars, community activists, and others to oppose it. Perhaps most significant was her refusal to consider the anti-war appeals by leaders of the Catholic Church and virtually every mainline Protestant denomination, which noted that it did not meet the traditional criteria in the Christian tradition for a just war. Instead, Senator Clinton embraced the arguments of the right-wing fundamentalist leadership who supported the war. This categorical rejection of the perspective of the mainstream Christian community raises concerns about her theological perspectives on issues of war and peace.

In March 2003, well after UN weapons inspectors had been allowed to return and engage in unfettered inspections and were not finding any WMDs, Senator Clinton made clear that the United States should invade that Iraq anyway. Indeed, she asserted that the only way to avoid war would be for Saddam Hussein to abide by President Bush’s ultimatum to resign as president and leave the country, in the apparent belief that the United States had the right to unilaterally make such demands of foreign leaders and to invade and occupy their countries if they refused. Said Senator Clinton, “The president gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly.”

When President Bush launched the invasion soon thereafter and spontaneous protests broke out across the country, Senator Clinton voted in favor of a Republican-sponsored resolution that “commends and supports the efforts and leadership of the President . . . in the conflict against Iraq.”

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:45 PM
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39. That is true - and those that did not trust Bush - like Obama and others - were correct. - but
there was no "vote for war" by anyone. Allowing Bush to chose war was indeed a mistake - but that is at least slightly different than voting for war.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:23 AM
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32. ???
"Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent from 1988-2003 (Senate) or 1991-2003 (House)."

How is this a plus? The Brady Campaign helped the Democrats lose Congress in 1994. :shrug:
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:35 AM
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34. and if she hadn't supported that you'd be bashing her for
being "pro-gun".

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:39 PM
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37. And if I happen to be pro-gun, myself?
:shrug:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:11 PM
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35. i love Hillary Clinton and Bill but ...
their support for the bushies and cosying up to murdoch and the right wings means that these people will get away from anything close to responsbility for the destruction they have caused.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:03 PM
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36. Yes - a repeat of what happened after the crimes of the 80s
Now another Clinton will come in and sweep the BFEE crimes under the rug.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:17 PM
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38. that's what i'm afraid of.
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