It Really Sucks Being A Kerry Fan Sometimes

[THUNDER HANDS]

I mean, this presidential race is kinda like one of those really long lines you have to stand on at an amusement park.

You know the fun is just around the corner, but you still have to wait around and be bored for a while first.

We've all known Kerry was going to be the nominee. I knew it two years ago. I could have slipped into a coma 24 months ago and just awakened now and I wouldn't be surprised by a single thing that has taken place.

It was kinda fun watching Dean rise, then fall, then sputter out like a bottle rocket.

It was kinda fun watching Edwards repeat the same speech over and over and over again ad nauseum. I guess there's probably someone out there in the country who hasn't heard his speech before.

"He's so authentic sounding, you can tell it comes from his heart."

Yeah right. If I repeated the same seven paragraphs over and over again, every day of my life for the past year - I'd sound sincere too.

But Edwards is a nice sparring partner for Kerry. A little out of his weight class, but he'll have to do for now.

Because we all know that Kerry is going to beat Bush. He's going to beat him handily.

And he's going to beat Bush by seven or eight points, even with Nader in the race.

Ho hum.

I guess I can understand why so many DUers are upset that Kerry is the nominee. Nobody likes rooting for Goliath. Nobody likes rooting for the sure thing.

But that's what Kerry is, and always has been.

The sure thing.

So, in a way it kinda sucks being a Kerry fan. Because there's a minimal amount of enjoyment that you get knowing that you have to win big just to make par.

Edwards comes in second and he's a hero. Kerry finishes first and it's "why didn't you win bigger?"

Such is life being the top dog.

So, I'll continue to sit here and wait for Kerry's coronation. And make no mistake about it, this IS a coronation.

And once the convention is over, it's just a matter of time before November.

Such a shame too, because I'd like a little drama this political season. But such is being a Kerry fan - you exchange drama for security and the thrill of winning a huge upset over an incumbent president with the sweet satisfaction of a solid, if not unexpected victory.

Nine months to go. Ho hum. Wake me when the voting starts. It's so boring being a Kerry fan when you know you've already got it in the bag. :evilgrin:

[Jim Sagle]

1. Pffffffffffffffffbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IndianaGreen]

15. I think I will go "Ho hum" on Election Day

and join that 50-percent of the voting age population that have dropped out of the political process out of disgust.

On the other hand, instead of having a "selection" and coronation in Boston, the Democrats may nominate someone fresh and charismatic like John Edwards. If Edwards is the nominee, I will enthusiastically work to get him elected President of the United States.

If Kerry is "crowned," I think I will go "Ho hum" on Election Day.

[sangh0]

25. It must be a real bummer when Democrats "select" their nominee

by voting. It must really burn the fringe to see a majority of Dems pick a candidate who is not as pure as they are. With their idea of a primary where the minority (ie "them") getds to pick the nominee, it's no wonder the primary seem like a coronation to them

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

37. Funny, you will HO HUM if someone other than YOU want gets

more votes. That's democratic with a small d.
:eyes:

[mmonk]

2. I'm voting

for Kerry unless Edwards drops back which may allow me to vote DK in the caucus we will have but I want to express your post doesn't help.

[demnan]

3. Don't underestimate the Republicans

they will do whatever it takes to win, just like last time.

[cspiguy]

8. whatdya mean - they didn't WIN last time...

n/t

[Eloriel]

28. No, but their 2nd place sure looks better than what we got

Doesn't it?

That was the point.

[Badger1]

4. And a nets fan?

Boy, you sure know how to pick a winner.

[wtf]

6. Badger1

I haven't been around here that long, but that's seriously the funniest thing I've seen posted! HAHA

[BootinUp]

5. Why taunt people?

You just had to do an "I told you so" ?

Politics is not that predictable.

[THUNDER HANDS]

7. cause it's fun

:evilgrin:


And politics is VERY predictable.

[BootinUp]

9. Can we get you to make some more predictions?

To hang you with later... :evilgrin:

[THUNDER HANDS]

11. why sure

Kerry will win at least three southern states.

[Phelan]

14. man, you are funny

Which ones? Care to humour me? I'll be willing to place a wager.

You are so smug about Kerry winning, let me tell you something bud... the polls right now are misleading, I say that as a realistic Dem. The Bush campaign hasn't started fighting yet with its $200 million arsenal. Kerry now has a negative $6,000,000 in his war fund. thats quite the descrepency (and I don't even want to comment on what I think about something that can't run a campaign without going into debt and is telling me about balancing a budget)

Will Kerry be the nominee? I'd say so. Is it going to be easy for him in the general election? Hell No. The deck is stacked and not in our favor... is Kerry going to win southern states? Maybe if Bush doesn't make it onto the ballot by some clerical error.

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. well...these states could go for Kerry..

Florida, Louisiana & Tennessee. Those are what I'm betting on.

But dude, c'mon. Kerry is a virtual lock. He's the best candidate the Dems have run in years. A liberal war hero. You couldn't have asked central casting to create a better candidate.

Does Kerry have flaws? Sure he does, but they are very minor compared to his primary opponents and downright laughably small compared to Bush.

[Phelan]

18. Clinton proved that a war record is not important

and it probably shouldn't be. His anti-vietnam activist time will hurt him in the eyes of the conservative voter and some swing voters. his suspect voting record is not going to inspire confidence. It be one thing if he had an ultra liberal voting record I can respect that. But he doesn't have that, he follows the money.

In your assessment of southern states he can win,

Florida is not a southern state. It maybe if you only count the panhandel but there are a zillion retired Yankees. Still Jeb is the Gov. and I would be very upset if I lost the state my brothers was gov. in.

Tennessee? Gore didn't carry TN, and he was born in TN and he was Senator in TN and I-65 in TN is named the Albert Gore, Sr. Highway and he still didn't carry TN. Now tell me how a Mass. liberal is going to carry TN? I don't claim to know much about LA but it suffices to say that Duke had a very strong showing there when running for Governor. John F. Kennedy was the last Yankee Democrat to win a general election and that was back in the days of 'southern democrats (blue dogs)' I don't have much hope for Kerry in the south. Maybe before he publicly stated that the south wasn't important and that he was planning on winning without the south.

We will see. what do you want to bet for?

[THUNDER HANDS]

20. I'll put up 20 clams

That Kerry beats expectations in the South - meaning, he actually wins a few states.

And I'd count any place where people speak with a Southern accent as "the south" - but that's just me.

[Phelan]

23. well Florida doesn't count then

cause only on the Pandhandle and around Gainesville do you hear a southern accent, you go south of Gainesville and wow...loads of retired New Englanders. I'll take $20, 3 states is the bet then?

[Phelan]

24. Let me add: I think a yankee is going to cost us more Senate seat

If we can't fillibuster anymore, well good bye everything liberals care for. like a fair supreme court, Roe vs. Wade, medicaid etc.

[THUNDER HANDS]

29. Kerry can win back the senate for us

I have no doubts. I am supremely confident in every aspect of a Kerry candidacy.

[IndianaGreen]

19. Kerry's record on gun rights will sink him in Louisiana and Tennessee.

Kerry is the least electable of the two leading candidates (by leading I mean that they lead Bush in the polls).

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. if the election is about the same old issues

maybe.

But I think with a GOP-controlled congress, having your guns taken away from you is an unrealistic claim to make.

Gun nuts have nothing to fear in this election and I doubt anyone who takes guns that seriously would vote for us anyway.

If guns are your one issue - why leave Bush, who's already in your pocket?

[IndianaGreen]

32. The Bill of Rights is a big issue with me

which is why I have such hearburn with those that voted for PATRIOT Act, and that are still refusing to call for PATRIOT's outright repeal.

No political party has the right to vote my civil liberties away!

[THUNDER HANDS]

42. well..there was a sunset clause in it

If Kerry wins, he'll take out some of the bad stuff. But you have to remember that the country was gripped with fear when the PATRIOT act passed. Practically every senator including Wellstone supported it.

[edzontar]

10. Kerry gives the same speech over and over again too.

And that speech for the most part, really sucks.

Besides, it my impression that there are very few actual Kerry "fans."

His support may be wide, but it is built almost entirely on a wafer thin foundation od presumed "electability."

[sangh0]

26. It's terrible they way Dems vote for Kerry

Don't they realize the speech "really sucks"? And I only wish that Kerry had the sort of ocean-deep support Dean had. You know, the kind of support that made his supporters vote for Kerry


:-)

[edzontar]

27. If you can find me anyone who as ever praised that speech

Or thinks that Kerry is a good speech-maker, I would be very surprised.

He is famously wooden on the stump.

He is better one on one--iI met him once or twice years ago and he can be charming and funny.

He tends to bellow on stage though--and it gets boring fast.

[sangh0]

31. It's terrible how Dems vote for Kerry

in spite of his giving bad speeches. Don't they know we want a candidate who is entertaining?

Maybe Kerry should start screaming? That should really help

[IndianaGreen]

33. They voted for Kerry because they thought he could beat Bush

Now we have polls that show that Edwards can also beat Bush by nearly the same margin as Kerry's. Voters can now look at Kerry's duplicitous voting record, and compare Kerry's flip-flops to Edwards straight forward position on the issues.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

34. Kerry's flip flops are less amusing than yours

YEsterday you argued Kerry can't win the anti-war vote which he already has in several states (facts be damned) then you argued the pro war Edwards was the better candidate in your very next post.

[IndianaGreen]

38. It boils down to which candidate can you trust, and which one you can't.

Edwards does not run away from his war vote unlike the waffling Mister Kerry.

I can trust Edwards because I can rely on what he says, whether I agree with him or not.

I cannot trust Kerry because Kerry's word is worthless. Kerry will adopt whatever position is expedient at the time.

[edzontar]

41. Edwards and Kerry are Spy vs. Spy to me

And I don't really trust ether of them--but given a choice-it's Edwards by a hair.

[sangh0]

44. One flip flop in defense of another

First it was "anti-war people won't vote for Kerry". Now that Kerry won more of those votes than the supposedly anti-war Dean, it's "people won't vote for Kerry because people don't trust Kerry"

If people won't vote for Kerry because they don't trust him, then why have so many people voted for Kerry?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

46. Kerry has a record of consistency on many issues

whether we are talking environement, offshore banking, labor rights and a whole host of issues over the years.

Perhaps if you conducted an honest inquiry rather than a disinformation campaign you'd be able to distinguish it for yourself.

[sangh0]

36. How awful! What's with those Dems?

How dare they be concerned with defeating Bush*?

Don't they know that KERRY IS IMPURE!!!!

[IndianaGreen]

40. Kerry is not as electable as Edwards

As a matter of fact, the more voters get to know Edwards, the more they like him. The reverse is true for Kerry, the more voters get to know Kerry's record, the more they dislike him.

[sangh0]

45. Of course Kerry isn't as electable as Edwards

and the fact that Kerry is getting more votes is irrelevant!!

:eyes:

The reverse is true for Kerry, the more voters get to know Kerry's record, the more they dislike him.

That must be why the commanding lead Kerry had before the Iowa primary has since evaporated

[edzontar]

39. Edwards is ten times better than Kerry, and as you say, he gives the same

Speech too.

And say what you will about Dean, he gave a good stump spepach and could really rev up a crowd.

Besides, good speaking qualities do not alays translate into votes--if that was the case--Sharpton would be winning by a landslide.

Anyway: What prompted my response was your gratuitous swipe against Edwards for giving the "Same Speech," when you know full well that Kerry des the exact same thing.

"Bring it On"..."I know something about aircraft carriers for real" etc.

[sangh0]

47. I loved Dean's speeches

They made people vote for Kerry. Now *THAT'S* a good speech!

[PVnRT]

16. And they say Dean supporters are immature

:eyes:

[charlie]

12. YOU TOO can pick a WINNER!

With the proven method for recognizing electoral excellence. More reliable than the Shoe Size System! Leaves the Impressive Middle Name Method in the dust!

[mdmc]

13. You have picked a good candidate

So much better and different than Al Gore in 2000.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=386036

[woofless]

21. Right On Magic Rat!

and give the Barefoot Girl a hug from Woof.

[jmoss]

30. pardon me, but.......

I didn't know that "WE" all "knew" Kerry would be the nominee. If anything "We" all expected Dean to do much better. Noone expected John Edwards to do as well as he has. Social Comas were not how that has arose. It's called energetic political activism!

[THUNDER HANDS]

35. Edwards should be long gone by now

But he's not because he had the money to sit around and wait for the field to winnow down. That was a luxury Dean didn't have - or else he'd be in the position Edwards is in now.

Kerry was the expected nominee a loooong time ago. Edwards was always the smart choice to be the #2 guy.

Maybe you just got caught up in the primary season hooplah. It was always supposed to turn out like this. Dean just added a brief, positive wrinkle that gave everyone something to talk about for a few months.

[IndianaGreen]

43. The Democratic establishment did not take the voters into consideration

Your description of Kerry "expected nominee a loooong time ago" is nearly a carbon copy of how the GOP bigwigs chose Bush to be their standard bearer, only to be irritated by those Republican voters that went for McCain.

[sangh0]

48. It's true! That's why the voters went for Kerry

The voters that were ignored by the "Democratic Establishment" were so pissed off about it, they voted for the Democratic Establishment's candidate, John Kerry.

That should teach the Democratic Establishment a lesson!

[deutsey]

49. You might want to remember the moral of the tortoise and hare

http://www.storyarts.org/library/aesops/stories/tortoise.html

[Scott Lee]

50. Bush-hole is gonna cream Kerry

That's the sickest part of all this. The party upper crust knows it, he knows, Bushhole knows it. The only ones who apparently don't are the wide eyed faithful who actually think Botox is that much different from Bushhole.

A comedy of terrors.

[sangh0]

51. Another prediction???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=780914&mesg_id=781733&page=

I just LOVE your predictions!

[WilliamPitt]

54. They get better every time

:)

[bearfartinthewoods]

52. you wrote:Nobody likes rooting for Goliath. Nobody likes rooting for the s

Nobody likes rooting for Goliath. Nobody likes rooting for the sure thing.


bullshit. eom

[w4rma]

53. Just remember that it's the issues that are important, not the man. (n/t)