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nadine_mn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:48 PM
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Watching Dodd on Countdown...made me cry
I really like Sen Dodd, however my politics are more in-line w/ Kucinich - that said...I was so proud of Dodd today - he did what Clinton and Obama are too chicken to do - stand up for our constitution!

Listening to him say that being willing to filibuster for our rights is more important right now than campaigning - that's when I got all teary because it is so true. Obama, Biden, Clinton - they have missed important votes because of campaigning (or used that as an excuse as to not take a stand w/ a vote that may be controversial).

Our current election system is so fucked up - I wish candidates who are willing to do that could stand a snowball's chance ...

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:53 PM
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1. Now hold on...
Biden has NOT missed any critical votes, and I will not let you state that as a fact!!! The only vote he did not attend was the farm bill, which he was not needed at, since it was overwhelimngly agreed upon.

God I am so sick of the bullshit on this board.
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nadine_mn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:43 PM
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7. sorry - I was just wondering
why he wasn't there for the Atty Gen confirmation vote
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:57 PM
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8. Maybe this will refresh your memory;
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 10:31 PM by 1corona4u
Biden To Oppose Mukasey For Attorney General
By Greg Sargent - October 30, 2007, 6:24PM

It just gets worse and worse for Mukasey. Senator Joe Biden, who earlier had said that he'd give Michael Mukasey a chance to clarify his views on waterboarding, has just announced that he's coming out against Mukasey's confirmation -- meaning that all four Dem Senators running for President now are blocking Mukasey's path to the AG's office.

Biden indicated his opposition in a new statement just out from his office in response to Mukasey's refusal this afternoon to clarify whether waterboarding is illegal.

“Waterboarding is by any standard, torture," Biden said. "We need to send a clear message that torture, inhumane, and degrading treatment of detainees is unacceptable and is not permitted by U.S. law. Period. We cannot have a United States Attorney General who will equivocate and dissemble on this matter. Too much is at stake.”

In addition to Biden, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Chris Dodd all stand opposed to Mukasey, as does John Edwards. Biden's full statement after the jump.

I am disappointed by Judge Mukasey’s response. He was asked a direct question on the specifics of waterboarding and he refused to unequivocally state that this practice is torture. For this reason, I shall oppose his nomination to be the United States Attorney General.

“Waterboarding is by any standard, torture. I called on my colleagues today to support legislation I introduced this summer banning waterboarding and other forms of torture. When we use torture or other cruel and inhumane treatment of detainees, we diminish our ability to argue that the same techniques should not be used against our own troops. We need to send a clear message that torture, inhumane, and degrading treatment of detainees is unacceptable and is not permitted by U.S. law. Period. We cannot have a United States Attorney General who will equivocate and dissemble on this matter. Too much is at stake.”



http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/biden_to_oppose_mukasey_for_attorney_general.php

PS;


Two weeks later, Feinstein was one of two Democrats on the Senate judiciary committee to vote to send Michael Mukasey's nomination to be the new attorney general to the full Senate. Her support helped turn the tide in favor of a nomination that faced an uncertain future after Mukasey refused to say whether waterboarding was torture.

When the full Senate voted, Feinstein was one of only six Democrats to vote in favor of confirming Mukasey.

The committee's 11 to 8 vote in favor of Mukasey was accompanied by an impassioned exchange of views between his supporters and opponents, who divided principally over of his refusal to say whether an aggressive interrogation tactic that mimics drowning amounts to illegal torture under U.S. law.



Two prominent Democrats, Sens. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.) and Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), joined nine Republicans in voting for Mukasey, arguing that the former federal judge was the best candidate they could expect as the Bush administration's replacement for Alberto R. Gonzales, who resigned as attorney general in September under a cloud of scandal.



By the way, you're talking about the FULL senate vote, which Dodd also missed. Joe Biden is on the The Judiciary Committee, which is the ones who confifrm. Diane Feinstein is tesponsible for Mukasey being confirmed, no one else. She joined the republicans.

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nadine_mn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:02 PM
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9. oh snap - I've been served
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:55 PM
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2. I've sent him a thank-you note. The others, not so much.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:59 PM
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3. his dad stood up to the most powerful men and demanded justice
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 09:00 PM by madrchsod
it must pain dodd to realize what his dad worked for after ww2 was destroyed the day the supreme court installed the president. hundreds of thousands if not millions have died defending that piece of paper. he did what was needed to make sure they did not die in vain
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:00 PM
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4. Chris Dodd has earned much favor in my book. A real leader and statesman.
Unfortunately he hopes for the presidential nomination are nil for 2008.

I would certainly and overwhelming support a "Chris Dodd for Senate Majority Leader" movement...
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:16 PM
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5. Yeah and Congrats to Hilllary and Obama
for that awesome support...
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:21 PM
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6. i'm a Kucinich-Dodd guy
and i'm fairly certain i'll vote for Dodd if i have the chance. if he's gone, i know DK will still be in it and i'll gladly vote for him again.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:31 AM
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10. I got to me as well.
You could feel how angry he was on the floor of the senate. Is there video on youtube of his speech?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:15 AM
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11. Here you go
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:41 AM
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12. Thank you for the link!
:hi: watching now.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:24 PM
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13. Thanks for the link.
I appreciate it.
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