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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:17 PM
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Anti-Obama ad from His44 Crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrympaOwJm8

Basically this ad says Obama will GIVE into terrorists. Shows pictures of various enemies of the United States. You know last week someone on this board attacked Obamas camp for having the guy responsible for the anti-Dean advertisement in 2004 with the photo of Bin Laden in it. And then we see this bullshit?

The YouTube of this poster HRCis44 has a link to the His44 website that posts some of the most disgusting and vile bullshit about our other fine candidates. I'm not talking about all Hillary supporters, just these His44 people. They can't speak for the strengths of their own candidate, so they try and demolish the others.

The end of the ad shows a link to Hillaryis44.org

What do Hillary supporters think of this website? I know all of you want your candidate to win, but I hope you guys come out against this bullshit. No candidate deserves these people like His44 being seen as their supporters. Especially not someone whom I respect and admire like Senator Clinton.

I hope the Hillary supporters come out against this. This is the worst kind of politics. And Hillary supporters, I call on you to fight back the His44 crowd and tell them they may stand with Hillary--but they're not the voice of the majority of Hillary supporters.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:26 PM
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1. Can we get one of those Hillaryis44 people over here to defend that scum.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:28 PM
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4. Not going to name names, but one or two posters here sport His44 banners.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:29 PM by Kerry2008
I would LOVE to hear how they defend this shit.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:29 PM
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5. Thats where I found out about it
saw it in their sigs.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:31 PM
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6. And again not going to name names, but usually those posters promote this kind of trash.
A lot of the Hillary supporters offer credible criticism. And I thank them for at least keeping things civil and friendly

But this is just trash. The His44 crowd has no limits to how low they'll go.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:05 PM
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39. So, someone joined Youtube 3 days ago used the His44 logo and you're blaming US?
The usual coming from the despots at the Barack Edwards ranch!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:11 PM
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41. It's just one of the many disgusting and vile attacks from His44.
And the fact you DEFEND it is hilarious.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:36 PM
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44. Uh, huh..you're really desperate aren't you...and funny how YOU'RE the one who found it on Youtube..
an Edwards supporter smearing a Hillary supporter..

How convenient is THAT!?! :thumbsdown:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:13 PM
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46. I'm not smearing anything. I'm calling out the cowards at His44 for bullshit like this.
If you can't defend it, so be it.

At least have the balls to admit it.

Karl Rove would be proud. Now even Democrats are using his tactics just as good, if not better.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. Tell it to the Judge..
have your proof in hand, so you won't make as big a fool of yourself as you have here.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:32 PM
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8. I have them on Ignore.
So, someone will have to transcribe what the ad says.

By the way, if anyone has information as to who's behind that site, feel free to email or PM me.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:32 PM
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9. Be careful what you wish for.
Tellurian is about as fierce as they come.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. Well I'm sure Karl Rove is fierce as well.
Doesn't mean I embrace his kind of politics.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #9
29. Oh yeah, he's a real
hillary's sychophant..he is.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
oh how I quake... gawd save me from that hack...
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:28 PM
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2. I really hope things don't get this low in the next two weeks....
I really don't.

We've got three good candidates in the top tier. And good candidates in the second tier.

America and the Democratic party deserves better than this His44 crowd has to offer.

If Hillary wins the nomination, it'll be no thanks to this kind of bullshit.

Keyword, IF.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:28 PM
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3. Sorry, but I just can't watch it. In a time when we have so much at stake
and need so desperately to show the American people there IS a way out of this horrible mess we are in as a country and a people, I am sickened by what HRC and her supporters have done to the dialogue. The Hillary is 44 crowd is only symptomatic of the nastiness that runs rampant through the entire campaign. The waters have been poisoned, our message of Hope for the world diluted into vapid, childish and vile attacks; and the people HRC is supposed to stand for, suffer. But what else could we expect, really?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:31 PM
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7. You do realize that almost all Hillary supporters here don't use that site.
More often that site's bs is posted here by other candidate supporters and then Hillary supporters who have nothing to do with it (one poster here has a link in their sig line but that is the only person I know who has posted anything from there. ) are demanded to defend/denounce it.

This is a game played over and over.



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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. But there are posters who are from there. Ive seen there signatures
They have the Hillaryis44 pink logo.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. There is one poster.
And she can speak for herself about her sig line.

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. I believe there is one.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. I am willing to accept on faith that it is mostly vile
I really don't want to have to go over and look at it. Do I have to? Please, can I take your word for it instead?

OK, I know it's not a joking matter, but I no longer doubt the lows that any group of people who support any candidate are capable of descending to. I have seen rubbish come from some who support all possible candidates including ones I support also, and true grace expressed by people with whom I totally disagree with on candidate choices.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:34 PM
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14. Rinsd, I understand. A good majority of Hillary supporters here offer credible criticism.
Of the other candidates.

And I think it's great they even stand up against the His44 crowd.

I just don't know how anyone can stomach supporting a candidate and having people like the His44 people also supporting the same candidate. I would be one pissed off supporter.

Some people don't have anything better to do than demolish the other fine Democrats instead of building their own candidate up.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
33. Some people feel the same way about those who defend Obama over Mc Clurkin
There are things I see in supporters of each campaign that make me say WTF?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. "More often that site's bs is posted here by other candidate supporters"
Can you link to some DU instances of that? Thanks.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Pssst this thread would be a good place to start.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:47 PM
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34. Why the snark? I don't see anyone with a "Hill is 44" sig in this thread.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 02:47 PM by Vickers
:shrug:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:50 PM
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35. Sorry, GDP hostility is making me bitter.
My point was that I rarely if ever see Hillary supporters post stories from Hillary is 44.

More often its supporters of other candidate posting Hillaryis44 garbage then demanding that Hillary supporters denounce/defend something they have nothing to do with.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:58 PM
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37. Fair enough.
I actually went and looked at the video that the OP has, and I honestly can't believe that a pro-Clinton group would come up with it...it's so ham-fisted and, well, stupid, that it's actually like a subtle pro-Obama ad.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #34
66. Why? Do you have the person on Ignore? Maybe everyone should follow suit.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #66
72. That was the first thing I checked!
I don't have *anyone* on this thread on Ignore (maybe a first for me).

:P
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #7
47. Most Hillary supporters are good folks
There are a lot of dedicated, spirited Hillary backers (Wyldwolf and you come to mind) who are aggressive about supporting Hillary's candidacy but who don't stoop to gutter politics.

The problem is with those who fling vile accusations about homophobia, drug dealing, etc. I'm not going to call out any specific DUer, but we all know of one in particular who sports the HillaryIs44 banner on his or her sig line.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:33 PM
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11. Are Hill44 folks
sure they are really Dems? They behave like Repubs.


It's sickening :puke:
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #11
69. I'm fairly sure they are republicans
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:34 PM
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15. What an inane waste of pixels
First Truman...then JFK... then HRC looking like some fucking clown. I laughed!

Pass that shit to the Freepers. They might just laugh so hard they fall over...

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:35 PM
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17. When Obama supporters stop defending the Bogtry that the Obama Campaign (he himself started).
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:35 PM by William769
Then we will talk about this.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Two wrongs make a right?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. And Yet I havent seen Obama regurgitate the RW talking point that a dem will give into terrorists.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. It is more effective to regurgitate a LW talking point that a dem is in bed with the lobbyists.
Seriously, that's a more effective tact to take during the primaries.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. So then you are also defending Obama and his supporters?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:42 PM
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26. No I'm just saying, does two wrongs make a right?
You want to talk about the Obama supporters using trash.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

That's no defense for this bullshit. They're just as wrong as the His44 crowd when they promote disgusting and vile RW talking points all wrapped up in lies and even more lies.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:41 PM
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45. You have NO defense because you don't know for sure it was a real His44 supporter!
and Edwards supporter using out name could be just as responsible..

and my instincts tell me it could be YOU!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. Ok a member of the His44 cult can't defend His44.
And now you're blaming this advertisement with the His44 tag on ME?!?

In-fucking-sane.

Like I said, smearing and lying about others. Is that all you guys know how to do?

For the record, I got this advertisement in the video forum here on DU from other poster.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:57 PM
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52. BTW...didn't you say Edwards was going to get us HealthCare his first yr in office?
You never answered my question..

How does he plan on doing that?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #52
71. He said he's going to fight for Universal healthcare in his first year.
It's a noble cause.

As opposed to Hillary only commiting by the end of her SECOND term.

Stop changing the subject. Why did you baselessly charge that I made this advertisement?

Is smearing and lying the only thing they teach you at His44.org?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:39 PM
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24. Here is another one they posted using Obama's cocaine use against him...
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. God, they must be frightened to death
Poor babies :scared:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. I guess so. If Hillary wins the nomination, it's no thanks to this bullshit.
Whats funny is people commenting on the YouTube ads calling it racist and flagging it and the HRCis44 poster calls them stupid and defends it.

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:22 PM
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30. I'm an HRC supporter
and I think this is not only looney tunes --but it's repulsive.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:24 PM
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31. I agree 100%
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #30
49. Why don't you ask your candidate to denounce it?
I wouldn't hold your breath, though.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. yes
I'll just call Hillary on the phone right now and ask her to denounce an ad that may or may not be part of a website that doesn't have any official link to her actual campaign.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. HillaryIs44 has been up a long time, spewing lies, racism and hatred
If Hillary didn't approve, it would have been taken down by now.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Really?
I thought it was a free country.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. Hillary is free to denounce it. If they really wanted to help her, they'd follow her wishes
But of course you knew that.

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. I'm going to concentrate on the one thing I like about you.
The picture of your bird.

I have a Jenday Conure. His name is Jake.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. He's not my bird -- he's a rescue from the Telegraph Hill flock
His name's Jasper and he's looking for a permanent home.

Here's my bird:

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. Pretty
BlueCrown Conure?

I had one for years. Named Bappie. She died from all the dust in my apartment from 9/11 :(
(I live in Brooklyn) Her cage was coated with the stuff.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #60
61. I'm sorry about your bird :(
We lost our cockatiel Tweek two years ago and it still hurts. :cry:
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. People who don't have birds don't get it.
Bappie took a long time to die from the respiratory failure -- she died on 12/12/2001.

And I still mist up over it. So sorry about Tweek. Cockatiels are such lovely little people.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. Sadly, many people who do have birds don't get it
That's why rescue orgs like mickaboo are necessary.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #30
70. My first thought
bunch of trouble making wingnuts pretending to be Hillary supporters. Easy enough to do when the campaign has embraced mud slinging on its own.
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proudmoddemo Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:27 PM
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32. They Must've Hired That Jackass
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 02:28 PM by proudmoddemo
That did the Max Cleland ad. Fuck those pieces of shit. I am NEVER voting for anybody named Clinton. The racist BULLSHIT that has come out of their campaign is truly disgraceful. I am to the point where I favor ejecting them from the party, along with their long time buddy Lieberman.

You cannot convince me that this piece of shit ad isn't part of their never ending, racist smear campaign against Senator Obama.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:53 PM
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36. Im ashamed to share a party with people like this.
Im so disgusted right now.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:02 PM
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38. A pathetic piece of trash.
Anyone who can endorse such vial should get their heads checked. What was displayed in this ad is extreme for ANY of our candidates.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:29 PM
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42. i think this could easily have been put together by a republican
who supports neither candidate. but it's not inconceivable it was done by a crazier hillary supporter.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 03:31 PM
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43. Given the recent attacks on kindergarten education, drug use, madrassas...I would not be surprised
if HRC's clan is behind this website.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:22 PM
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48. Damn, that is some seriously racist scumbaggery
And of course, the His44 hacks will deny it, the Hillary hacks will deny it, but it will hang out there to help the Rethugs in the general election.

Can we please just scrape her entire campaign off the bottom of our shoes and move on with a serious candidate? I'm so sick of this crap.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:22 PM
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53. Absolute garbage.
One poster in particular makes it... what I think would be impossible... to vote for a certain candidate, should they get the nom.

Guess it will be adios for me. Which lately, wouldn't mean a bucket of spit.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:18 PM
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63. I'm an HRC supporter, and I don't like that site - or anything they do - one bit
I read somewhere the other day that the group that funds His44 is tenuously linked to the Romney camp, and that they use this site to trash other Dems, making HRC look bad in the process. I can't remember where I read it, though, but I'll look for it.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. It was a lie, posted by a Hillary supporter. He later admitted it was false.
The group Hillary is 44 is not a Republican site. It is a site by supporters of HRC, many of them whom you will find here. If you'll look upthread, you can see one of the proud members here defending this garbage. Enjoy.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. I didn't read it here; I read it elsewhere.
I'm aware that there are people here (at least one), who support the site. But I'm talking about who's funding it, not who's posting links to it. Do you know who's paying for it? Because if you do, I have a feeling that there are a few reporters who'd like to talk to you.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #68
73. Only the people making and hosting the site know who owns it
It's using a registrar out of Arizona and the server is in Utah....but it can be run from anywhere
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:56 PM
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67. Anyone who supports this garbage is a racist liar.
Then again, quite a few racist liars have made their way on this board and into Hillary Clinton's campaign.
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