Howard Stern read "Lies and the Lying Liars" and loved it, now he's ABB

[DaisyUCSB]

he said that even though Al insults him on the first page it's the greatest book. He said everyone needs to read it.

I love stern, I know alot of you hate him, but we just got a really influential person in media as ABB, he used that phrase "anybody but Bush"

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Yeah, I do hate Stern

But I'm glad to have any media at all on board. ABB ALL THE WAY BABY!!!

[molly]

2. Stern is a sexist pig - and his ratings have fallen

but I'm glad he's ABB.

[Cooley Hurd]

5. Howard is a satirist who parodies "the sexist pig..."

I haven't listened to HS for a few years now (yes, even strippers and lesbians can get stale), but I've always felt it was unfair to label him as a misogynist, just as it would have been unfair to label Carroll O'Connor as a racist for playing the part of a racist on TV.

[DaisyUCSB]

8. Exactly, when it comes down to it, he stands up for civil rights

like abortion, like gay marriage, etc etc.. He's just honest about his horniness. My bf is the nicest, most respectful guy in the world, but if he could have hot girls taking there clothes off in front of him once or twice a week he would

[spooky3]

14. This is not an apt comparison. Howard Stern does what he wants

on his radio show, and can express whatever views he wants, as long as he remains entertaining. He is NOT presenting himself as a parody. Carroll O'Connor played the role of a bigot. Those are not his views. And the writing of the scripts was clear that Archie was out of line in his views, and he was the butt of jokes. Blacks did not parade around in stereotypes designed to appeal to whites. In contrast, it is not at all clear to viewers and listeners of Howard Stern that how he treats women is unacceptable.

[DaisyUCSB]

15. How is it unexeptable. I have friends who are strippers and it's only some

in society who judge them. It's uptight people. Meanwhile they're getting an education and making plenty of extra money.

They aren't drug addicts or out of control, they're exploiting the men, not the other way around

[Cooley Hurd]

18. But Howard is presenting satire by way of his "theatre of the absurd"

According to Dictionary.com:

parody: Something so bad as to be equivalent to intentional mockery; a travesty.

Howard presents his on-air character as an "over-the-top" male (therein lies the "parody"). Is it funny? To some, but then again, some people think Carrot-top is funny. To each his own, but to say Howard is what he appears to be on the radio is directly relative to saying Carroll O'Connor was Archie Bunker...

By all indiciations, the off-air Howard is a respectful person to all, especially women...

[spooky3]

24. Sorry, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

Look at the demographics of his audience, or better yet, talk to them, and ask whether they are connoiseurs of parody, the theatre of the absurd, etc., or whether they watch/listen for other reasons. You are clearly an exception, and I am sure there are others, but you are in a very small proportion relative to the audience in general. If Howard treated blacks the way he treats women "guests", he would be run off the air. He is a sexist pig. Period.

[Cooley Hurd]

25. Do you think that everyone who watched "All in the Family..."

...understood the mechanics of satire and parody? No, most watched it because they found it funny, as many do of the Stern show.

Howard is an equal-opportunity offender - he has treated blacks, Hispanics, etc. with the same irreverence shown to sexual topics. And he does this with a cohost who is an African-American woman. It's obvious that she recognizes the satire, and that Howard is merely playing a character.

Like I said, this type of humor might not be your cup of tea, but millions do "get the joke" (including many high-profile liberals, like Alec Baldwin, Tim Robbins, Janeane Garofalo, etc...).

[Kinkistyle]

3. I think Stern is representative of a lot of Americans.

So the fact that he is coming around is indicative of the feelings of a lot of Americans, especially on the East Coast.

Just to make perfectly clear: Howard Stern voted for Al Gore in 2000, and turned around to support Bush and Bush's War for Oil because of 9/11.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. Did Howard say anything about the Karmazin memo?

Last week, Mel Karmazin told all the Infinity radio execs that there was going to be a "zero-tolerance" policy in regards to indecency on the air...

NY Post: INFINITY ORDERS CLEANUP

<snip>
BESIEGED Viacom president Mel Karmazin read the riot act to execs of all 180 Infinity radio stations yesterday - including Howard Stern's in New York - telling them they'll be fired if they violate the company's new "zero tolerance" policy on obscenity.
"Don't screw up," Karmazin was quoted as saying by one of three Post sources who took part in a company-wide conference call convened by the top brass of Viacom's radio division.

"If you don't comply, you'll be fired for cause," Karmazin reportedly said. "This company won't be a poster child for indecency."
</snip>

Since Howard was on vacation last week, today would've been his first chance to talk about Mel's statement. Has he said anything about it this morning?

[DaisyUCSB]

6. Yes he did, the FCC investigation of Janets tit is what got him on this

liberal streak. That got him saying how sick he was getting of the right wing. But he did talk about that with Tom Chiusano this morning

[Cooley Hurd]

11. But Howard runs the show at K-Rock...

...Tom Chiusano is Howard's puppet (at least that's the impression one would get when listening to the both of them). What authority does Tom really have over Howard?

[Kinkistyle]

26. Chiusano is the mouthpiece for upper-management.

Howard commands a good deal of power at the station but so does the FCC who can go ahead and fine CBS for any amount of money it so chooses. Look what they did to Janet. Not even Howard can compete with that.

[Killarney]

7. Good!

I can't stand Howard Stern, but I'll take anything we can get on radio.

So much radio--even non-political radio like sports talk--is conservative. We need some guys on our side. Much of American doesn't actively try to find the truth themselves, they just passively listen/watch and believe what is given to them. I know this because my husband is one.

[DaisyUCSB]

9. Howard even said that he'll listen to franken if Al gets on the radio

I hope this gets back to Franken and then Al can go on Howards show and maybe apologize for comparing Howard to Ann Coulter and Joe McCarthy on the first page

[mmonk]

10. Influential? Just how influential?

[DaisyUCSB]

12. Ask George Pataki, he wouldn't have gotten elected if not for Howard

in all probability. For whatever reason the NY tri-state Rockefeller wing of the GOP has charmed Howard and gotten his support by going on his show and doing things for him, but they've reaped the benefits.

Howard ran for governor as Libertarian in I think 92(could be wrong) but when he didn't want to release some sort of records he made a deal with Pataki and endorsed him if Pataki agreed to a couple of things( I know getting the death penalty back was one of them.

Alot indicates he was who got Pataki elected. And Christi Whitman(she named a reststop after Howard).

But it's also very likely that Howards endorsements of Clinton twice and Gore helped them. I beleive he has 20 million loyal listeners

[mmonk]

13. whew. Hard to believe he has that many listeners.

Oh well, I'll take any support anyone can give in defeating bush.

[59millionmorons]

16. My favorite Stern-Clinton story

Stern was a big supporter of Clinton during the Lewinsky mess, he was always sticking up for him and saying Starr was an idiot. But one day just after Clinton left office, Stern and Clinton were at the same function and he wanted to shake Clintons hand. He claims Clinton blew him off, now ever since he tries to bash Clinton when he gets a chance. But this is not just Clinton, if any guest refuses to go on his show he bashes them also. Sort of childish. He has to understand for some it is not in the best interest to be seen with him.

[DaisyUCSB]

17. he doesn't try to bash Clinton whenever he gets the chance

but he does hold that against Clinton, which I would too.

The level of hypocracy within the media is astounding in regards to Howard and Imus. Imus is a racist and he has the most powerful people in media and politics on his show every day.

I wish Edwards would go on or call into Howards show before super tuesday, it might be just the edge he could use

[59millionmorons]

19. There is no way in H***

That any Presidential candidate would ever get within 20 miles of Stern.

[DaisyUCSB]

20. Rudy Giuliani and Pataki might as well be a presidential candidates

it's only a matter of years before they run

[Stuckinthebush]

21. I can't imagine what there is to love about Stern

but to each his or her own.

I am glad that he will be ABB, however, because I know a large portion of his audience are young white men who have a tendency to not critically analyze their world. They will listen to Stern and vote with him - so for this, I'm thankful.

[Renew Deal]

23. His audience is working class.

I work in an office in NYC. We have the whole range of people that listen to him including black women, gays, older people an younger people. His appeal is working class.

[Renew Deal]

22. He has 17,000,000 listeners

Hopefully he will stay on our side. He has been saying that people are telling him that the economy will be in disaster if Bush stays in. Hopefully he keeps pumping this. Stern was also a real pro-war guy. It looks like he understands that domestic problems are more important.