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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:28 AM
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I Like Mike Huckabee
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 12:34 AM by hnmnf
Now I know what you're thinking. How can anybody like that piece of shit. And I agree he really is a POS. From is view on women, to religion, abortion, etc, he is not someobody that I would ever want to be my president. But I can say honestly that I like what Mike Huckabee's campaign represents. His meteoric rise in the polls signals that maybe you dont have to have the most money in order to be a viable candidate. I think he gives hope to other candidates who may not have the financial support that they can still win and make a difference.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:32 AM
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1. Huckabee is what you get
when the Republican money machine backs certain Democratic candidates this cycle.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:33 AM
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2. If I were a Republican I would be pretty conservative and Huckabee would likely
be my candidate
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:39 AM
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6. ???--the biggest rap against him in the GOP is that he's NOT conservative, except
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 12:39 AM by wienerdoggie
on abortion and gays. Ben Nelson is more conservative.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:58 AM
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19. I answered the question the only way I could.....honestly. Several months ago
I analyzed the Republican field and tried to imagine how I would vote. I've supported southerners often over the last 35 years (Clinton/Gore/Carter/Edwards) and I like candidates who speak plainly. I find Huckabee's sense of humor interesting and his warmth towards the Clintons a plus. If I was a Republican, I'd probably vote for Huckabee.

The standard trash against Huckabee on Free Republic is that he's only conservative on abortion and gay marriage. You can't satisfy those freaks and there's no point in trying.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:03 AM
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23. I think Huck is pure evil. Even if I were a Repub, I'd run screaming away.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:05 AM by wienerdoggie
He's a creepy fraud, no matter his policies or party affiliation. Anyone who likes him or finds him charming is, to me, the same sort of semi-retarded person who voted for GWB.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:11 AM
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28. Well I guess you really told me now didn't you.....In my fantasy world where I am
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:12 AM by Rowdyboy
trying to pick a a Republican candidate I FANTIZISE about who I would pick and you challenge me? How am I a "semi-retarded person who voted for GWB". ?

That is perhaps the stupidest statement I've heard in the last 5 years on DU. Congratulations...you win the prize...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:16 AM
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33. That's my opinion. I thought anyone who fell for Chimpy and voted for
him was semi-retarded. I feel the same way about anyone who finds any of the Repub field charming or acceptable in any way. That's why I'm a Democrat. Posting on a Democratic forum.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:24 AM
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41. Obviously the concept of "fantasy" eludes you.....
Serious conversation will be difficult.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:19 AM
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37. Talk about dirty laundry!
Huck boys closet is full!
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:13 AM
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29. During Huckster's governorship of Arkansas
the state budget expanded from $6 Billion to $16 Billion per year.
I think Huskster is the real compassionate conservative, not the present
occupant of WH.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:34 AM
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3. more a sign of desperation
I think the world is waking up to the fact that we are living in ever increasing turmoil politically and economically. It will provide an opportunity for someone who is outside the realm of normal candidates to be seriously considered. As a nation we need to be vigilant to make sure we don't elect a the wrong person in a desperate attempt to effect change.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:15 AM
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32. No kidding. I find Huckleberry Fucknuts to be an extreme danger to this country
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:18 AM by kysrsoze
I despise this Gomer Pyle-ass' "simple-talking" bullshit and his Christ-on-the-Cross campaigning. I don't want any jackass who doesn't believe in evolution to be my president. Eventually, we'll all end up being dragged into church every morning before work.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:37 AM
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4. on the surface he is a perfect republican rat bastard.
schmaltzy and charming and gonna sell you that undercoat on your car. but, peal away the folksy aw shucks, is a very mean humor.
and his spawn is bad bad bad,
and i hope he doesn't win case he is just what the republikkkans and idiot men would vote for.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:39 AM
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7. I'm not saying I want him to win, cuz I dont
I just like that for once its not about how much money you have. You hear people say about people like Joe Biden that he doesnt have the money to last the entire way. I've even heard that about Edwards. But Mike Huckabee doesnt really have a solid national campaign or that much donor support but is still imo the frontrunner.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:38 AM
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5. His "meteoric rise" is due to three things: favorable press that
discussed his guitar-playing and duck-hunting more than his actual policies and record (which are unimpressive to downright stupid), the other GOP candidates being pathetic, and a network of home-school evangelical fanatics and pastors getting the word out to vote for a preacher-in-chief. I can't stand him. I believe he is the anti-christ, for cynically using God for political power.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:40 AM
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8. I might be wrong, but it makes sense to me that he is speaking to
the regular guy, with the crazy creationist, the earth is 6000 years old thing. The opposite of him would be realist like Kucinich and Edwards. I hear the Friday weekly polls on Thom Hartmann, and Edwards wins everytime. The regular person realizes they have been fucked, on both sides, the realists, and the believers.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:43 AM
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9. Or you could take a good look at Edwards-
For the same example.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:45 AM
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11. Edwards is still trailing though
Edwards is still well behind everywhere else except Iowa. Huckabee though used to hang around DK numbers wise and now he is the pretty much the front runner.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:48 AM
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13. Every Republican has a problem or 10.
Maybe that is why McCain is doing better.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:51 AM
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14. When you're dealing with Huckabee-
You have to take a look at Bush's approval ratings nationwide. They usually hover around 33%, now consider this, that 33% is about the same percentage of RW religious nuts in the country. I'm talking about the home schoolers. Once those people, on a national level, saw Huckabee, this preacher from Arkansas, he had them cold. And he'll continue to hold those people, which is a big number, throughout the race unless he does even more to critically f**k that up.

Just my opinion.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:44 AM
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10. So, because it might give your candidate hope ....
you are willing to post "I Like Mike Huckabee" even though he is truly a POS?

For me, that just indicates Obama supporters are too much like Hillary supporters (aka will say/do anything to win) to be trusted.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:46 AM
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12. Wow thats just a mean comment
And why avoid my Biden avatar? Maybe that makes me feel that Biden could come out of nowhere and win this thing. I put a comment like that to attract people to the conversation. I dont like Mike Huckabee, but I like the idea that his candidacy isnt the typical money driven political candidacy.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:59 AM
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20. Huckabee isn't "money-driven"? Like, you know, taking bribes for pardons?
Or attempting to steal $70,000 worth of furniture, or setting up a fraudulent wedding registry to get around gift-giving rules, or accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts and suing to be allowed to take even more? Or creating a bogus non-profit organization for the sole purpose of paying himself from it? Yep, you're right, he's not money-driven at all. He'll talk about the little guy vs. CEO's and try to sound all "Edwards", but he's pretty much a low-rent grifter.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:02 AM
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22. You're twisting my words to say something I didnt say
What I said was that in usual elections, money is what talks and if you dont have enough money, you cant win. Though I dont agree with him, nor do I agree with his supporters, His chances of winning have nothing to do with the amount of money he has because he doesnt have that much.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:08 AM
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25. Money is a sign of support. Fuckabee got a lot of free puff media
and a religious network to pump up his poll numbers. I don't see where one sign of support is any more worthy or "moral" than the other. Sorry, can't join you in your obvious admiration for this stupid evil Republican fuck.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:10 AM
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27. Sorry you cant wrap your head around what Im talking about.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:14 AM
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31. I think the original post was intended to relate the poster
finding comfort in the fact that a candidate, without a lot of money or a big machine behind them, could progress in the contest.

Perhaps, the selected method of presentation was unfortunate, but I don't think the person meant to imply that Huckabee was a 'good guy'.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:17 AM
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35. Sometimes others can say it much better than you can
And that is exactly what Im saying. I think some people though read, "I like Mike Huckabee" and dont bother to read any other part of what I wrote.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:32 AM
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43. Hey, don't feel bad ... it happens to many of us one time or another
We post something we think others will 'get' (as to our actual meaning) but they don't -- and it assumes a life of its own.

Stick around, this will pass. You seem like a thoughtful person and I am sure you will find your place on DU if you get used to how thing 'operate' around here and give it a chance.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:18 AM
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36. Then perhaps "I like Huckabee" is not a good idea for a thread title.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:18 AM by wienerdoggie
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:22 AM
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39. I think if anybody reads what I wrote originally though, they know I dont actually like him.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:01 AM
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21. I get that ... but, it's like me saying
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:04 AM by sjdnb
I like/admire someone just because of how they get somewhere ... not because of what they stand for/believe.

I can admire someone for putting themselves through school. But, if after they graduate they go on to represent/work for something I believe is totally contrary to the greater good, I can no longer admire/support them.

It's not like Huck is the first unknown to rise from the 'ashes', either. Think Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton ....

Fact is, if you believe in Biden, tell us why ... don't play political games with a catchy subject line.

BTW - while your avatar says Biden, your graphic says Obama ... so, which is it?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:03 AM
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24. I dont admire him at all.
And I have stated at great length today why I support Biden.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:51 AM
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15. His campaign represents an awful Repub field
and that's all his campaign represents.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:51 AM
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16. As long as you've got support like this


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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:53 AM
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17. Thanks..That says so much about you and lol at the "hope" thing
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:55 AM
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18. Go ahead judge me, I dont care.
Waste of my time.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:09 AM
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26. No one is judging you, we are just trying to understand the point you're trying to make
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:10 AM by sjdnb
And, maybe point out that that point might be flawed. It is, after all, Democratic Underground -- not Fascist if you don't agree with me don't post a reply, Underground.

But, again, I would ask -- who are you supporting Biden or Obama?

Because your posts (avatar and graphic) indicate both.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:13 AM
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30. This thread explains my dilemma with Biden and Obama
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:17 AM
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34. I have researched/follwed both but still hold out hope for
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:18 AM by sjdnb
a Gore run or will support Edwards.

I'm a Progressive, and neither Biden nor Obama have impressed me to the point where I can support either one.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:21 AM
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38. I would vote for Gore if he ran, but I've given up hope as of about two months ago
For me, there is something about Edwards that just rubs me the wrong way, I think a lot of it has to do with his support for the patriot act and co-sponsoring the IWR. Now I know Joe Biden voted too, but I think Joe Biden is one of the most genuine people Ive ever seen in public office. I dont get that feeling from Edwards. But Ive warmed up to him to the point where I will have no issue supporting him, donating to him, and even working for him should he get the nomination.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:29 AM
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42. Well, if I were going for 'genuine' I'd be voting
Kucinich or, in the past, Gebhardt, Stevenson, etc. ... all whom have run without a chance in Hades of being elected.

And, no doubt, Biden is a nice/good guy ... but, until recently, he's been rather reticent in his voting.

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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:24 AM
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40. He gives hope to anti-choice, pro-rapist, pro-fiscal irresponsibility,
pro-big government in our personal lives, Jesus-rode-a-dinosaur voters.

It has nothing to do with money, and everything to do with the power of Falwell/ Robertson/ Haggard/ Swaggart/ Bakker types.

There is nothing to like about it.
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:25 AM
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44. He's Pro-Criminal too
He turned loose hundreds of criminals from prison during his tenure as Gov, including at least 12 murderers. Some of the county Prosecuting Attys were complaining about the violent criminals he released. Wayne Dumond was only one of many.

I can't believe no one is even looking at this. A brief mention of DuMond and then it's dropped. Go figure. I guess crime doesn't matter. :/
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