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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:22 PM
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Is Hillary shocked not to get Lieberman's endorsement? She campaigned for him to be Conn.Senator
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 06:31 PM by saracat
and they are so similar in voting records she could be Lieberman in a skirt.She must feel so betrayed! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:23 PM
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1. This is an Edwards supporters you rabid HRC fans.
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:23 PM
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2. Um, excuse me?
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 06:24 PM by DemKR
She did not go to Connecticut to campaign for him (unlike Barack Obama). Cite your source. If you'd like to watch the video of Barack Obama saying "Nobody does it better than Joe Lieberman" I'd be happy to provide you the link.

Garbage.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:26 PM
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6. She did endorse him in the primary, and I'm not saying Obama didnt.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:29 PM
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10. OMG
Sitting Democratic Senators endorsing the incumbent Democratic Senator in his primary race?

What were Clinton and Obama thinking?

And then switching their support to the primary race winner?

Those horrid scoundrels.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:31 PM
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12. Stop making sense now, You'll ruin the food fight! nt
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:44 PM
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20. Hillary supported Dem nom winner Lamont - Obama did not -he supported Joe
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:45 PM
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23. That's what I had thought too
But am being told otherwise, and can't seem to find any relevant links.

anyone help me out on this?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:41 PM
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36. No he didn't. There was misinformation ...
...over at Wikipedia, which quoted a story in "The Hill" which now leads to a broken link. That story allegedly included a small list of names of Democratic Senators who backed Lieberman over Lamont in the General, with Obama on it. But it has been soundly refuted with verifiable facts. Obama endorsed Lamont in the General.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:39 PM
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34. Yep - "Sitting Democratic Senators" who value loyalty to ruling elite more than
the will of the people.

Sitting Democratic Senator John Kerry endorsed Ned Lamont and helped raise money for Lamont's campaign:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2479985#2480231
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:29 PM
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:32 PM
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13. I rephrased it but she DID campaign for him, though not in person.
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 06:35 PM by saracat
Here is a link to a letter she wrote to the Conn.State Committtee supporting Joe and asking for their votes.That is campaigning.Scroll to bottom for letter.
http://www.irregulartimes.com/clintonliebermanletter.html
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:22 AM
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60. Hmmmm, your "source" only exists on one anti-Hillary website
I cant find it anywhere else on the internet. I wonder why that is.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:15 PM
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63. Most letters to state Committees are sent to the individuals not posted on the net.
This happened to be given to the website.I have receieved simoilar lettersas a State Committee member from my state.None have been posted on the web yet the letters exist (Not from Hillary!)but others.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:43 PM
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68. What do you expect?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:54 PM
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52. Hillary sent Bill to endorse Lieberman in a huge rally in 2006. Watch the YouTube video:
Bill said of Joementum: "He's been a good Democrat, he's a good man and he'll do you proud."

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rr_n6EL5MA

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:24 PM
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3. tee hee
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:40 PM
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15. Thanks.I am amazed how many don't get the humour in this! Oh well!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:24 PM
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4. "Lieberman in a skirt.." now that is a visual I didn't need.
I will say it does describe her politcally.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:41 PM
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16. It is really apt , insn't it? Or maybe Joe in a pantsuit/?Nah. Not as cute.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:24 PM
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5. NO--she is happy--as are the other dems
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:29 PM
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11. Yeah really - she is probably relieved he didn't endorse her
the endorsement of that asswipe is probably the kiss of death in Dem primaries.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:28 PM
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7. She backed him in the primary, Lamont in the general. Those are the facts.
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 06:34 PM by MADem
She provided cash and advisors too to Lamont. She didn't snuggle with him because he thought it would ruin his progressive 'cred.'

I think she'd be surprised if Lieberman DID endorse her, and she'd likely, if she had a brain and I assume she does, view his endorsement as the kiss of death. The enthusiasm of a weaselly squatter isn't the sort of endorsement any candidate would want.

Who's the bastard endorsing? McCAIN!!!

THAT's the person you should feel sorry for!

Of course, if McCain makes it to the general, he could end up swinging it with the racist or sexist vote. You heard it here, not first, but frequently. Never overestimate the intelligence of the average voter....
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:37 PM
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14. I wasn't serious but they certainly are ideologically similar and she did back KYL/LIEBERMAN!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:36 PM
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33. Naaaaaah--you were serious. If you weren't, you wouldn't have posted the OP.
But then, everyone jumped on your shit, tossed in the "progressive Obama did it too" bomb, which sorta pointed out the flaws in your thought process, so you're trying to save the thread by changing the subject to Kyl/Lieberman (which didn't exist back when Holy Joe was in a primary contest against Lamont, OR when he was running in the general).

Or, you TRIED to change the subject.

I'm not interested in playing. Especially when most of the people whining about K/L haven't even read it.

Give it up. Let this sorry mess just die.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:03 PM
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46. So what?
So did the majority of senators, except the two that didn't bother to show up: McCain and Obama.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:49 PM
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50. Oh yes you were serious.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:08 AM
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55. I was "joking' about the endorsement.I was serious about their being ideologically similar.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:15 PM
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69. Looks like your brand of bile isn't selling like it used to.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:28 PM
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8. So Much Hate...So Litttle Time...
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:41 PM
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17. I understand they sat in a car last night
and Lieberman explained to her how he decided he just couldn't support her.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:43 PM
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18. tripe
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:43 PM
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19. So did Obama, so whats your point?
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 06:43 PM by William769
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:53 PM
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28. My point is snarK. I am facetiously pointing out her political bedfellow
is supporting a Republican.If you can't get that , you obviously fail to understand the irony. And after all Hillary has done for Joe, petionioning the Conn.Stater Committe on his behalf, supporting his legislation, especially KYL/Lieberman, and he endorses a Republican over her.Sigh.Treacherous.There just is NO loyalty anymore! And they were such good friends too. How very sad.:sarcasm:
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proudmoddemo Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:44 PM
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21. Worse than that
She campaigned for him 30 years ago when he was running for the state senate. She has been a life-long friend of Joementum, and here he is betraying her. Ha!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:48 PM
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24. Thirty Years Ago Joe Was A Decent Fella
They were also classmates at Yale Law...Clarence Thomas was there too around at that time and Robert Bork was their professor...

And forty five years ago Joe was marching with the Freedom Riders...Folks change;some for the better, some for the worse...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:44 PM
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22. She' ain't too sharp. Bush fooled her a bunch of times, too.
lol
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:49 PM
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25. I'm sure she could care less
Lieberman is irrelevant to the general election.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:50 PM
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26. It Was Irony ... Of The Sophmoric Variety
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:51 PM
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27. Probably was...
but with DU lately, I find myself answering a rhetorical question here and there. :)
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:01 PM
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29. I am not a Hillary supporter , I am an Edwards supporter
I think Liberman would do any thing to be V.P of the United States and thinks McCain might take him on the ticket, however Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton, don't need Lieberman.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:02 PM
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30. She's thankful. As am I.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:21 PM
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31. What other Presidential candidates supported Lieberman besides Hillary?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:42 PM
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37. What ones didn't in the primary is the correct question to ask.
I don't know the name of any I am sure didn't back Lieberman in the Primary.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:41 PM
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47. When he ran in he primary he was legitimate. When he left the party and ran AGAINST
the Democrat chosen by the people, he was no longer legitimate, so no that is not the most important question.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:57 PM
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38. When he ran for VP? All of them.
That's what Democrats do--they support the candidates in the General.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:25 PM
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32. If she has any sense
Hillary will be breathing a sigh of relief that Lieberman won't endorse her.

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me to hear Lieberman endorse Huckabee.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:39 PM
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35. If she is at all suprised
There ggoes the smartes woman in the world thing..

Go Big-O
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phillyliberal Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:59 PM
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39. most likely
they both vote the same way, which pisses me off.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:04 PM
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40. To be fair
she endorsed and campaigned for him in the primaries, but endorsed Lamont.

Lieberman is far too gone and him endorsing McCain is not a surprise in the least.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:10 PM
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41. Why do you always make up shit about Hillary, saracat? BTW, you act just like Lieberman yourself
to the point that I honestly think you're a closet Lieberman fan the way you worry so much about that traitor.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:05 AM
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54. I made up nothing! I wasn't serious about a Lieberman endoesement.It was a "joke' Of course I WAS
serious that they are ideologically similar.They are.They are both pro war , socially progressive AIPAC favorites.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:21 AM
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59. You said she campaigned for Lieberman right in your thread title.
Hillary said she would support the Democratic candidate from CT, and that's exactly what she did.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:12 PM
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62. She DID campaign for Lieberman. She lobbied the State Committee
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 12:24 PM by saracat
I posted the link to her letter.She did support Lieberman for Sen for Conn.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:18 PM
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64. Don't try to squirm out of it. You said "she" campaigned for him, not "he"
like you're saying here now. Just like the poster below said, you got caught red-handed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:26 PM
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67. That was a "typo" Fixed on edit.SHE did campaign for him. Link to letter in
my previous post above.Campaigning does not have to be physically appearing.She campaigned via letter to the Conn State Committee. That is not a lie.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:24 AM
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:10 PM
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42. dupe delete
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 08:25 PM by mtnsnake
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:28 PM
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43. Cheney still hasn't endorsed anyone yet
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:25 PM
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66. I'll eat my hat if its not the ghoul.. Cheney could then be his "progressive neocon"
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:39 PM
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44. This is B.S.; Hillary supported Lamont
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 08:41 PM by Onlooker
Hillary said she would support the Democratic candidate in CT, and she supported Lamont. She didn't do a lot for him, but she did more than many other Dems who supported Lieberman.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 11:01 PM
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53. Yep: Pres C endorsed Joe & Sen C endorsed Ned & then they sat on their hands
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:40 PM
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:53 PM
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51. Thanks cali = you expressed my feelings exactly.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:16 AM
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57. Don't be silly.I never expected Lieberman to support her.That was a joke but I was serious about the
similarities between Lieberman and Clinton..Can you honestly tell me that they aren't ideologically similar? Their voting records almost match and both are AIPAC favorites. Clinton does admire Joe and has so stated. What is bothers you so much about those facts? And why is it nasty for me to notice? I think the one that is nasty is you.I have never addressed you in such a manner.So I had a giggle at the Lieberman endorsement and made a joke at Hillary's expense? So what? This is not a big deal.But be offended if you like.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 04:51 AM
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58. Yes. Your candidate is no differend whatsoever on AIPAC
toadying than Clinton. Good reason not to vote for EITHER of them. Obama has also stated admiration and respect for Lieberman

And I think you are, bar none, the queen of haters here at DU. You've written literally scores of ugly posts about Clinton that would do Freeperville proud.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:23 PM
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65. I would think that appellation best fits others. Hillary is very much like Joe in her philosophies.
And why that fact enrages you ,I can't figure.Many don't like Joe , many don't like Hillary.So what? Why do you act as if I have an obligation to like Hillary? I have no such obligation to support her in any way.I really dislike what she represents.I have learned to respect her less through this campaign.I think,together with Mark Penn she has run a dirty campaign and I have every right to post what I think.You have the right to disagree.BTW today I see the harford Courant has run an article sating that Lanny Davis thought the Clinton Camp had been expecting an endorsement from Lieberman.And to think I posted that as a "joke".
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:46 PM
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48. She was a hawk on IWR along with Leiberman. Supported Kyl/Leiberman too. nm
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:47 PM
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49. She only supported him in the Primary and supported Lamont in the General
Talk about disingenuous. :eyes:
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 12:14 AM
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56. ssdd....supported joe in the primary but did not in the general
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