Why many of us support Hillary summed up in two sentences from DM Register Endorsement...

[SaveElmer]

We believe as president she'll do what she's always done in her life: Throw herself into the job and work hard. We believe Hillary Rodham Clinton can do great things for our country.

Not the only reason of course...but of all the Dems running Hillary is the one I feel most sure will do what is necessary to insure a successful Presidency - is the most driven and will be the most tenacious...

And as far as I am concerned a successful Clinton Presidency means success for America as well...

flame away!

[TwilightZone]

1. Perhaps the people who are constantly demanding that Hillary supporters explain themselves...

will read your thread.

[ccpup]

3. I doubt it

The need to complain and criticize is oftentimes more important than one's desire to actually have an answer to one's "question". They don't really want Clinton Supporters to explain themselves. They just want the freedom to constantly ASK Clinton Supporters to "explain themselves". And, once an explanation is given, there's always more that's needed to satisfy the Questioner's curiosity. It's a useless, never-ending, insincere loop of b.s. that is a huge waste of time to become involved with.

[TwilightZone]

16. True.

It's the Democratic primary equivalent of Osama bin Laden. He's more useful to the Republicans lost than found.

[Rock_Garden]

2. No flame, Elmer, just praise.

She will work twice as hard as anyone else, like always.

[regnaD kciN]

4. Why should we think that...

...when she has already run up six years of not doing great things (unless you count the IWR and Kyl-Lieberman as "great things")???

Sorry, but I was a Hillary supporter when she was first elected to the Senate, and hoped to see her in the White House eventually. These past six years have been an eye-opener -- it's clear that she has no ethical center (combined with a full sense of personal entitlement), and a contempt for progressive and Democratic values when they stand in her way to personal advancement. I simply cannot trust her judgment or her intentions.

[Cameron27]

10. Alright,

what has John Edwards done for the past 6 years, or B. Obama, Chris Dodd, or Joe Biden? How have their votes or in Edwards' case, what he's done for a living, been different in any significant way from Clinton's, during the past 6 years.

[Egnever]

24. well Obama

Obama Bill Sets Date For Troop Withdrawal
Candidate Goes Further Than Rivals

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/30/AR2007013001586.html

Congress to Pass Obama, Coburn Legislation to Prevent Abuse of No-Bid Contracts in Wake of a Disaster

http://obama.senate.gov/press/060929-congress_to_pas/

Senate Passes Obama, McCaskill Legislation to Provide Safety Net for Families of Wounded Service Members

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070802-senate_passes_o_1/

Obama/Reid Amendment
On Oct. 2, 2006, Sens. Obama (D-IL) and Reid (D-NV) offered a $20 million amendment to H.R. 5631, the Department of Defense Appropriations Act. The amendment allocated funds to support the African Union troops in Darfur.

http://www.darfurscores.org/darfur-legislation


Just name a few

[Cameron27]

32. As far as the first bill, the article also says this:

"The Obama plan, called the Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007, would begin a troop withdrawal no later than May 1, 2007, but it includes several caveats that could forestall a clean break:

It would leave a limited number of troops in place to conduct counterterrorism activities and train Iraqi forces. And the withdrawal could be temporarily suspended if the Iraqi government meets a series of benchmarks laid out by the Bush administration. That list includes a reduction in sectarian violence; the equitable distribution of oil revenue; government reforms; and democratic, Iraqi-driven reconstruction and economic development efforts. Obama's proposal also would reverse Bush's troop-increase plan."

I'm not sure how much different his plan for total withdrawal of American forces is from what Clinton's been proposing.

Did Clinton vote no on any of the others?

[Egnever]

18. Like you I had great hopes

when Hillary got into the senate that she would use her position to stop this administration in its tracks. It quickly became obvious though that she would quietly sit on the sidelines and make as few waves as possible in order to preserve a shot at the white house. It is largely because of her inaction or worse collusion that I don't feel a sense that she will do much of anything I would hope for in her presidency.

She is very good at working hard to be president.

[ccpup]

19. wow

how wonderful must it be for you to have such insight that you can judge whether or not someone has an "ethical center" and is in possession of a "full sense of personal entitlement".

I think you're full of b.s. and have absolutely no ethical center, honesty or intelligence.

Furthermore, with this casual brandishing of a judgment against someone you don't know and have, I trust, never met, you've revealed yourself to be unfortunately saddled with a shocking and delusional sense of personal entitlement that is galling and full of hubris and stupidity. I suspect your own life is riddled with mistakes and uncertainty, lapses in judgment and glaring omissions of honesty and candor and, therefore, you're certainly not someone worthy enough to be in judgment of anyone else.

Hey! That was easier than I thought! :evilgrin:

oh, and for those who felt that rush of air go over their heads, I'll add this :sarcasm:

[Inspired]

5. If she is the nominee, I hope she does accomplish great things.

I hope that for all of our candidates. I also hope those that don't win go on to accomplish great things as well.

[gristy]

6. The campaign effectively filters out anyone who is not willing to work hard.

So I don't even feel I need to have to have that on my list as I look at the different candidates.

My choice is made based on what the candidates have chosen to work hard at in the past, and what they say they will work hard at once elected president.

[natrat]

7. like hillary-typically vague -thats why hillary sucks

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. sucks?

lovely.

[ronnykmarshall]

51. More like ignorant

I see I didn't miss much over the weekend.

The whole endorsement of Hillary by the Registar must have sent this place into a frenzy, huh?

[TwilightZone]

17. Thank you for that intelligent, informative post.

I'm sure that you've convinced everyone.

[Silent3]

23. Senator Clinton does not suck.

In fact, that's why the whole Monica thing happened. :)




Note: This is not a bash. I just couldn't resist the terribly obvious joke. :)

[L0oniX]

34. My thoughts exactly

[asjr]

9. The Des Moines paper in a way

reemphasized what has been running through my head for some time. Even though I have not made a choice, whenever I think of getting back at the Republicans Hillary Clinton comes to mind. What the Republicans simply (though they try) can't do is say we are better off now than during Clinton's administration. Hillary was part of it. She gets slammed because of her "health plan" back in '93 or '94 but at least she tried. And the media never let up on it. It will be a tough decision for me because all our candidates are top notch.

[polichick]

11. She WOULD work hard as president, no doubt about it. nt

[Cameron27]

12. K&R

[joeybee12]

13. She led the fight to get troops body armor...

...she does a lot of stuff like that...she knows how the system works...as far as I'm concerned she does have some baggage, but she will get thigs done...talk is great but all that does is look good on fundraising letters. Where's the beef?

[Beacool]

48. Yes,

I always thought that the military despised her until I did some research and found many laudatory comments from retired generals and other top brass (those in active duty are not allowed to comment). The thing that struck me is that they all said that they were surprised to find out how well prepared she was on whatever subject they were dealing with at that moment. Several of them said that she was one of the few politicians who actually listened to them and didn't dismiss their recommendations. She has worked tirelessly to improve our servicemen's living conditions and has been awarded several commendations for her efforts, such as awards from the Military Order of the Purple Heart and the Gold Star Wives.

http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=251629&&


http://www.goldstarwives.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=29

[saltpoint]

14. Congratulations to Senator Clinton on the DMR endorsement.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Couldn't the same thing be said about ANY candidate?

Just sayin. . .

It's a rather generic comment.

[Stop Cornyn]

20. Congrats on the endorsement, but which candidate from either party do you think WOULDN'T work hard

other than Hollywood Thompson who, even most Republicans agree, just isn't much of a "worker"?

[BeyondGeography]

26. Obama plans to hang out at the pool a lot

How about your guy?

[BeyondGeography]

21. Reminds me of the old Peggy Lee song

Is that all there is?

For me, it's a bland line, which confirms the noncontagious nature of her support.

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Damn them grapes must be REAL sour!

[Warren Stupidity]

22. Warning: content free OP.

You really should label these things. I suppose that compared to, for example, Fred Thompson, this would be a good reason to choose Clinton. As a way of selecting between any of the existing Democratic candidates, it is vaporware.

[BR_Parkway]

25. I have no doubt she'll work hard, I just don't agree with what she'll work on

I still think that she's too beholden to the corporate interests over mine, too beholden to the religious interests to support mine as a gay man, too beholden to too many groups that aren't the same one's I support.

Not rooting for her in the primaries, but will support if she gets the nomination. Just wish there was more progressive to her instead of politics (and she's not the only candidate I'm saying that about)

[Quixote1818]

27. Being president is "Hard Work"! But will she work as hard as Bush?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ38wu5Fp6w

[L0oniX]

35. How does she do with a chainsaw and brush clearing?

:sarcasm:

[sellitman]

28. Ummmmm

Hillary isn't the only one of the candidates who would work hard for America.

Spare me!

[earthlover]

29. Hard work....how about proposing a health system that works? or a trade policy? or an end to Iraq?

Triangulation does not work for us. No matter how hard you work at it.

[last_texas_dem]

30. I agree that Clinton would work hard as president

However, I think the same is true for all of our Democratic contenders. In fact, I think it's true for all of the candidates on both sides, with the exception of Thompson on the Repug side. Other than Thompson, I don't see any "passive" presidencies in the future regardless of who is elected. (I kind of wish more of the 'pugs were passive types, considering the damage that a Giuliani or Romney administration (or a Paul or Tancredo one for that matter, but those seem unlikely) could do.) Regardless, I'm glad that your belief in Clinton's tenacity gives you confidence in your support for her.

[K Gardner]

31. Oh, I have NO doubt that Hillary would work hard and throw herself

into the job, as she has done everything in her life. That has never been my problem with her, and honestly, I supported her until the campaign "really" started. Nuff said about that, but I do agree she would work hard !

[saltpoint]

33. I honestly congratulate Senator Clinton on the endorsement but the

"throw herself into the job" and "work hard" points might apply just as easily to my cousin or my neighbor or someone who lives across town.

It doesn't seem to rise to the level of presidential qualifications in and of itself. Those two criteria are minimum requirements for just about any job there is.

[NewHampster]

36. She will do awesome things and as the DMR said

The job requires a president who not only understands the changes needed to move the country forward but also possesses the discipline and skill to navigate the reality of the resistant Washington power structure to get things done.

That candidate is New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[oasis]

45. That a person of her intellect and other exceptional personal qualities has the desire

to run for the presidency, is in itself remarkable.:toast:

[blm]

37. I believe she'll do EXACTLY what Bill did and protect the secrecy and privilege of BushInc.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Knowing for certain a candidate will keep government CLOSED to the people should eliminate that candidate for any Democrat who believes in open government.

[Froward69]

38. well I believe

"Hillary Rodham Clinton can do great things for" special interests, corperations and her buddies just like bush. mandatory health insurance is her health plan.
Do you really believe thats the cure for our health care crisis?

[calteacherguy]

39. Hard work...where have we heard that before?

heh...not that there's anything wrong with hard work, but the nation needs more than hard work right now.

[last_texas_dem]

40. "But it's hard work..."

haha I had forgotten about Shrub running that particular phrase into the ground. Sad but funny stuff...

http://www.depresident.com/bush-complains-hard-work-video.asp

[zulchzulu]

41. That has got to be the most vague, most toothless endorsement I've ever seen

Here's another one:

We believe as president she'll be able to do stuff: this is the stuff where she will do stuff. We believe Hillary Rodham Clinton has in herself the stuff to do stuff and other stuff.

:boring:

The notion that none of the other candidates would "do great things for our country" and "work hard" is preposterous.

[JAbuchan08]

42. THose are empty phrases they don't tell us what she'll fight for

[Maven]

43. Flames, FLAMES...on the side of my face, heaving...breathless...heaving breaths

Sorry, couldn't help it.

[OneBlueSky]

44. the same could probably be said about any of the Democratic candidates . . .

the question is, in whose service will s/he be working hard? . . . the peoples, or the corporations? . . .

[Beacool]

46. Hear, hear!!!

Hillary has always worked hard in every job she's ever had. She consistently wins praise by being one of the most prepared senators in every committee in which she serves. She has won the respect and admiration of her colleagues, even of the Republicans, and she's the favorite person to take over Reid's place if she were to remain in the senate. She's the senator who most other senators seek to co-sponsor a bill. I am glad that the Register recognized that Hillary would continue to do in the White House what she has done all her life: work hard and never give up on what she believes to be the best course for the country.

[avrdream]

47. Only a small part of why I think she'll be a great President.

[Caseman]

49. Uhhhhhhuuuuuuuummmmmm...

...that's it? She will work 'hard' and might do 'great' things? No offense, but that won't convince a Bidenite to your side, at least not this one.

[MadHound]

50. That's nice and warm and fuzzy and all,

But those of us not voting for Hillary have a couple sentences also: First, she's as hawkish as the Republicans and has stated she won't get the US out of Iraq. Second, she is a bought and paid corporate whore who will put the interests of her corporate masters far ahead of the interests of the rest of us.

You can believe the warm and fuzzy all you want, but the reality of the matter is that Hillary is scarcely better than a moderate 'Pug. Sorry, but I want real change, a real progressive in charge, not a faux one.