Des Moines Register: Endorsement between Hillary/Obama was compared to FDR/Kennedy

[Herman Munster]

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071215/NEWS/71215022/-1/NEWS04

One board member described the case for Obama in the Clinton vs. Obama discussion as a bank shot versus a straight shot in pool. Success is less certain with a bank shot, but the gamble (in this case for a more cohesive, hopeful country) might be worth it.

Another veteran editorial writer described the choice as similar to picking Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a calculating but masterful politician at maneuvering needed legislation through Congress, versus John F. Kennedy, whose youthful vigor inspired the nation to take on new challenges. That�s not a bad choice.

[AX10]

1. I agree. As Paul Krugman said, we need and FDR right now...

in 20 years from now once we settle the differences and realign the nation into a progressive mold, then we can have a JFK.

[Think82]

15. I agree. I thought the most FDR-like is Biden, but I guess they wanted to pick a front-runner

[MannyGoldstein]

2. More Like Nixon vs. Kennedy

Clinton as FDR? Hardly. Anyone who has studied FDR at all would find this absurd in the extreme.

[BeyondGeography]

4. Must be her ability to be universally loved

:freak:

[maddiejoan]

9. Actually

The comparison is very apt.

And Bill will make a splendid Eleanor.

[MannyGoldstein]

10. How Do you Figure?

FDR was always pushing things to the left. He was comfortable doing things that angered Wall Street and the rest of the Predator Class.

Seems to me that the Clintons are polar opposites of this.

[BootinUp]

14. :-(

[maddiejoan]

16. Seems to me you are only looking at FDR as President

We haven't had Hillary as President yet. Have we?
FDR was a President that responded to the times, I have no doubt Madame President will do so as well.

and I still think Bill will make a great Eleanor.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Bill Clinton Was The First President To Make Torture A US Policy

Somehow FDR was able to get us through WWII without torture - despite our own POWs being tortured by our foes.

[maddiejoan]

18. Yeah

Uhm

I'm voting for Hillary, sweetheart.

Not Bill.

[MannyGoldstein]

19. Would Eleanor Torture? nt

[maddiejoan]

21. I'm sorry

If you would like to participate in a rational discussion, I'm all for it.

But you don't seem to ever do that. So I bid you adieu.

[BootinUp]

13. :-)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

3. The thing people tend to forget about JFK is that he almost lost to Nixon

In memory, people think JFK was this no-brainer candidate choice, but he won only the narrowest possible victory running against an utterly creepy mutant that nobody liked.

[Herman Munster]

5. there was also lots of voter fraud

It's arguable that Daley stole Illinois for Kennedy.

[AX10]

6. But JFK did not need Illinois to win.

Yes, Daley was a corrupt scumbag as are all the Daley's, but Nixon had the GOP do the same thing downstate.

[JDPriestly]

8. But that was kind of evened out because African-Americans lived in the south

where they had no vote. African-Americans in the south were disenfranchised.

Why does the south still vote conservative? The Voting Rights movement occurred in the '60s. Beginning in the '50s and continuing through to recent decades, many African-Americans moved to northern cities such as Detroit. The all-white voters of the south remained in the majority even after the voters' rights movement was more or less successful.

[OzarkDem]

7. Clinton doesn't have much of a record in that area

FDR wouldn't approve of leaders who simply capitulate to the GOP's wishes.

[calteacherguy]

11. We need a JFK. We need a risk-taker. We need hope.

A straight shot just isn't going to cut it.

[ClarkUSA]

12. What BS... comparing her to FDR is Hillaryous. Man, were the editors rationalizing their support!

What the fuck did she ever do for the country as an elected official besides help vote us into neverending war?

[Bitwit1234]

20. Oh hell...

Obama was John F. Kennedy. He was the savior of this country. Now he's FDR...how in the hell long will it be before they say he is

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Abe Lincoln, Davy Crockett and Huckleberry Finn all rolled up in one.