The Des Moines Register editorial board is composed of mostly women

[BluegrassDem]

Just keep that in mind. Women are the biggest backers of Hillary, so this is absolutely no surprise. I knew Hillary would get the endorsement when I saw it was a female only board.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

Those dumb broads are ruining journalism! (Spinsters, every one of 'em)

[snowbear]

30. Kurt and Hunter...

I thought she was "your girl"? You seem to be quite fond of her..

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

38. I believe that the use of the antique terms "broad" and "spinster" is sufficient indication of jest

And I am not at all fond of her. I intensely dislike Hillary. She's my #2 pick (or #3 some days, when she's being particularly awful) because I think she would be a decent candidate.

My support of her is exaggerated because she is perceived as being in a two person race with Senator Obama, who I dislike even more than Senator Clinton.

The only candidate I like is Joe Biden.

[Think82]

93. not necessarily on this board : ) a lot of people don't share our Bidenite sense of humor

[MonkeyFunk]

1. Those girls...

always sticking together. :eyes:

[Tom Rinaldo]

4. Next thing you know they'll think they control a majority of the nation's votes n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

6. uppity broads.....

[emilyg]

32. HeeHee

:woohoo:

[MadBadger]

2. I thought there were 7 members and 6 out of 7 were women?

[Critters2]

10. 6 members. One man. nt

[sandnsea]

3. Now that is sexist n/t

[BluegrassDem]

14. Women vote for women in higher numbers...what's sexist about that?

Women are the biggest supporters of Hillary. Just look at the polls? Why is saying that sexist? It's reality. Would you be surprised if Jet Magazine endorsed Obama? I mean, c'mon people. It's obvious.

[sandnsea]

27. Then why aren't there more women in office?

It's obviously not true that women will favor women. It was a sexist thing to say. And no, it wouldn't surprise me if Linda Johnson Rice supported Hillary at all.

[donsu]

83. because many men won't vote for a woman

nt

[Captain Hilts]

56. Yes, but they're not the biggest supporters of women. Women don't vote as a bloc that way. nt

[Diane R]

69. It's insulting to say that women will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman.

I've been a feminist since the early 70's. Feminism means that women can think for themselves. I've thought for myself, and Hillary just doesn't meet my standards for a president...it doesn't matter what her gender is.

[Skittles]

70. absolutely correct

yes INDEED

[Madam Mossfern]

84. I beg to differ

Almost all of the women whom I have spoken to who support Hillary state as one of the prime reasons is that she's a woman. The second is because they want Bill to be involved again.

[1corona4u]

5. I read it was 6 women, one man.

[Critters2]

9. 5 women, one man nt

[calteacherguy]

7. No comment. nt

[Critters2]

8. 6 members. Rox Laird is the only man. nt

[NewHampster]

11. damn upitty women

think they can run a paper and have opinions without consulting their husbands.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. They must not have husbands

why else would they have jobs?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

19. Taking jobs from men who really need them

[Tom Rinaldo]

26. and sending their kids to child care (if they even bother to have any) n/t

[DURHAM D]

60. The children, the children - think about the children.

Some of the sexism here is truly amazing ain't it?

[Critters2]

31. Why get jobs?

Being married means you can transfer your husband's experience onto your own resume. Apparently.

[MonkeyFunk]

34. Heehee!

I just love the petty whingeing that goes on here when something like this happens. You never disappoint.

[Tom Rinaldo]

36. Did you ever wonder why divorce laws in most states...

...give women half of the estate of the mariage even if the husband was the recognized primary bread winner? Unfair or perceptive? Whaddaya think?

[Critters2]

37. So, Hillary is correct when she claims

part of her experience is having lived in the White House?!

Right, that's why I'd vote for her. Because she knows her way around the White House. Literally. :eyes:

[Tom Rinaldo]

43. Yes. I hear she occupied her days by giving White House tours to 4H Clubs

Is that what you heard too?

How do you figure she faked those interviews with the editorial board to sound so knowledable and experienced? I think she must have been wearing one of those microphone thingies connected to Bill, like the one Bush wore during his debates with Kerry.

[Critters2]

45. Gee, I dunno. Maybe she used all that corporate money

to hire aides who know a thing or two.

I mean, she wasn't smart enough to know Saddam didn't have WMD, and even I figured that out.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. Thou shalt not covet

they neighbor's endorsement.

[rAVES]

77. I doubt many covet this endorsement..

everyone I've spoken to is just disgusted at the Kucinich thing...
Kinda rubs folk the wrong way, I hope to Christ she gets wiped out in the primaries.

[MonkeyFunk]

79. LOL

Well Obama has said publicly he was trying to get it, and supporters of other candidates earlier today was touting it when they thought their candidate would get it.

You have to exist in some alternate reality to think the other candidates didn't want this endorsement.

[rAVES]

81. A Crappy endorsement from a sleazy paper.. yippee!

Not to mention they pick losers every time... this time hopefully will be no different.

[MonkeyFunk]

89. and yet

all the candidates vied for the endorsement.

The whingeing, bitter jealousy of some people here is just hysterical.

[oasis]

94. Another Obamamite making whine out of sour grapes.(eom)

[rAVES]

96. I'm far from an Obamamite..

Sour grapes, ya because what they did to Kuchinich and Gravel makes the endorsement so great right? after letting Alan Keyes in the night before!

You Clintonites will sit on your hands as America is run into the ground by corruption.. as long as your precious candidate is alright, you couldn't give a crap...

[Tom Rinaldo]

47. Let us know how you spell your name

Maybe we can write you in on the ballot. I am sure you are smarter than all of the people who thought Saddam still had some poison gas left over and buried. Hillary should have stuck to raising her child. You are probably much smarter than Joe Biden even, not to mention John Kerry and John Edwards.

[Critters2]

49. I wrote to my congressman and Senators asking them to vote

against the IWR, because there was no evidence of WMDs. Again, if I could figure this out, what made HRC so dense?

[Tom Rinaldo]

51. You do seem to be singling her out.

On that very point there were a whole lot of dense people all around the world, and a number of them are running for the Democratic nomination for President right along with Hillary now. We came damn near to electing one of those dense people to the White House instead of "W" in 2004 also.

I grant you though that it wasn't any of those folks finest moment.

[Critters2]

52. Nope, I've raised the same issue about Edwards,

and it's the reason I didn't caucus for Kerry in 04.

But, when people tell me how smart Hillary is, I like to point out that I was smarter on this VERY important issue.

[Tom Rinaldo]

54. OK, this is a good enough resting point to our exchange. Peace n/t

[cali]

73. i figured that out too, but guess what?

Biden, Edwards, Dodd also voted for the IWR. So I guess they're all equally stupid, right?

[HuffleClaw]

90. zzzzzzzzzzzzzing !

a hit, a very palpable hit!

[Azathoth]

75. Actually, unlike Hillary, they didn't get their jobs because of their husbands n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

78. Clinton got her job

because the voters of New York gave it to her.

[Azathoth]

80. Would they have given it to her if she wasn't the wife of Bill Clinton?

Somehow I doubt it. Hell, she didn't even live in the state before she decided to run.

[Tom Rinaldo]

86. Would VP AL Gore ever have gotten his job...

...if he weren't the son of Senator Al Gore Sr. from Tennessee? People gain enough prominence to run for different reasons. Sometimes it's because they were a Pro Wrestler or Quarterback, sometimes their Dad was a famous politician, if you start going down that road you'll end up discarding half of the people in elected office for having hitch hiked there on undeserved fame.

Do you think being the son of a popular Senator prepares one for becoming a Senator oneself more than being the actively involved life partner of a sitting President of the United States?

[Azathoth]

100. Al worked his way up and punched his ticket just like every other politician

He was first elected to the House, where he stayed for eight years, then he transitioned to the Senate, then he ran for the Democratic nom and lost and so he continued in the Senate for a few more years until he was chosen to be VP, and then, after eight years of being VP the guy finally ran for President. By that time, many people didn't even remember who his father was. Even more importantly, throughout his career he ran on his own experience and his own accomplishments in elected office; he never tried to lay claim to those of his father.

[Tom Rinaldo]

104. In Tennessee no one ever forgot who his father was.

And they certainly were aware of who he was when Al Gore Junior sought funding and support to run for Congress the first time. The media sure knew also, and Al Jr started out with a massive name recognition advantage over his opponent at the time.

Why on Earth do you think there are so many sons and daughters of successful politicians getting elected to high office in politics? Do you think it a co-incidence? You think RFK Jr.'s name hasn't been a factor in his career? Or for Andrew Cuomo who just became Attorney General of the State his father was three time Governor of? Is is a pure coincidence that Bob Casey Jr. just got elected U.S. Senator from a State where his father was a popular Governor? Why do you think Lincoln Chaffee replaced his father in the Senate from Rhode Island? Or John Sununu Jr. in New Hampshire? Do you think maybe that Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana might have gotten a boost by her father being a long time New Orleans Mayor? Or how about Alaska, do you think perhaps Senator Lisa Murkowski's dad had something to do with her being in position to have gotten elected there?

Yes Al Gore worked hard, and Al Gore succeeded because he is talented, and also in part because he was well prepared for a career in politics from his close exposure to it through his time spent with his Father. No one, at least not I, claims that Al Gore hasn't been an excellent public servant. Nor do I suggest that were he not of high caliber he could have won those races and that acclaim simply because he was his father's son. But being Al Gore Jr. was a big political asset to Al Gore Jr. when he started his career in politics.

Al Gore Jr. was a child through most of his father's career. He certainly wasn't Al Senior's life mate and closest political adviser. It would have been absurd for him to have claimed any "credit" for his father's career. Do you honestly believe that the experience that RFK Senior could lay partial claim to was all the result of his handling of the Justice Department? Do you think that the Justice Department was the branch of government that JFK naturally turned to for counsel to deal with the Cuban Missile Crisis because it was the Department that naturally had the most to do with International Relations and National Security? Or do you think just maybe JFK turned to his brother RFK at the moment of his gravest crisis because of their intimate family connection and political partnership that dated back through many years when Bobby had no political title at all behind his name?

[ronnykmarshall]

103. Bobby Kennedy didn't live in NY either.

Your point?

[Tom Rinaldo]

87. There are those who say Bill would never have gotten his job were it not for Hillary n/t

[Egnever]

12. So what?

So women cant see past her gender? I thought recent polling showed obama with the majority of the female vote in the early primary states.

this is just sour grapes if you ask me and god knows I dont want hillary wining this thing.

[K Gardner]

13. Its a conspiracy. Women hellbent on taking over the world. They'll be burning bras next.

[davidinalameda]

15. and wearing pantaloons

[K Gardner]

23. Sacre bleu !!! n/t

[Critters2]

16. Here's the list of editorial board members:

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/OPINION/50419004

[Quixote1818]

22. Looks like 8 women and one man. nt

[Critters2]

29. No. Nine on editorial staff. Six voting members of the board. nt

[davidinalameda]

18. gee, would have hated to see what you would have said if the members were black

or latino or whatever else

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

20. That's totally different because, eh... well it is!

[incapsulated]

95. lol

Yup.

[K Gardner]

21. Or white male !! LOL ! nT

[Blue-Jay]

24. If they were black, they'd be endorsing Obama. Duh.

(according to the OP's logic, that is)

[AX10]

35. That's different, you know.......it just is.

:eyes:

[DemKR]

62. blatantly sexist post!!!! :-P

[ClarkUSA]

25. More like the wining and dining of Des Moines Register editors/staff/Yepsen worked wonders

Oh well, the endorsement sounded like they gave a thumbs-up to politics as usual so I daresay thousands of Edwards and Obama supporters will
say fuck 'em. I know I do.

[MonkeyFunk]

28. LOL

I shouted with joy when I heard of the endorsement, because I was SOOO looking forward to the jealous, petty whining from the guttersnipe haters on DU.

I'm not disappointed.

[AX10]

33. You accusation is very...

sexist.

[annie1]

40. Joe Biden supporters are so reasonable. i love it. Thank you.

[AX10]

41. Yes we are. Thanks for the support.

:hi:
:hug:

[annie1]

39. Sounds like the same "Oprah is touting Obama cuz he's black' argument. lame.

[Capn Sunshine]

105. wait! isn't it because Oprah's a woman?

Now I'm confused.

[itsrobert]

42. Probably filled with Condi Rice wannabees

Pro war and anti-labor.

[Joe the Revelator]

44. The OP is pretty stupid. People at DU need to stop playing on race and gender...

and just let things play out.

[BeyondGeography]

48. So why didn't they endorse Rudy then?

[Ewellian]

50. Why did they endorse John McCain?

Seems to me that there are better choices.....Mitt "dreamboat" Romney....Fred "babe magnet" Thompson...or possibly Rudy 'cause he looks so stylish in dress and heels.

[K Gardner]

53. McCain? Because they want to end the war ! ::scratches head, confused:::

[ElizabethDC]

55. Most voters are women, too. n/t

[Captain Hilts]

57. Did the mostly male ed boards endorse men? Yes? nt

[Bitwit1234]

58. Oh oh oh oh.....get that folks.

but you can't say the reason that Obama went up in the polls in SC is because he got backing from blacks....cause if you do you are racist. See the difference....bash Hillary because she is a woman, but you can't mention Obama's race.

And the sad thing is sex and race should have absolutely nothing what so ever to do with this campaign, but Obama supporters just have to jump in with sexism don't they. Because they know that Hillary has more class to resort to racism to combat the sexism.

[ArkySue]

72. Exactly. eom

:shrug:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. So Much Hate...So Litttle Time...

~

[NewHampster]

61. LOL

hope you don't mind DSB but I'm snatching that line for use on dKos

[Lucinda]

63. Ya know... I haven't met a woman yet who stored her brain in her uterus.

[davidinalameda]

64. does that mean women can like take their brains out of their heads

and move it around

unlike men, who carry their brains around in their penises, or least I do

:bounce:

[Lucinda]

66. Absolutely!

There are times when our handbags just won't hold enough.

[davidinalameda]

74. LOL

brava!!!!

[NewHampster]

65. But that's exactly where lots of men put theirs

:evilgrin:

[Lucinda]

68. Well....now that ya mention it.

:rofl:

[loyalsister]

67. That's not fair

I am no fan and don't agree, but I thought their own reasoning for their endorsement was sound.
I would have thought that if there was a surprise, the endorsement would have gone to Biden, though. I From what I understand he has run a small town campaign. That also would have been sound reasoning IMO and I am most definitely not a Biden fan.

I think the larger influence may be that it is Vilsack's state. Both genders have a long history of trusting his judgement and policies.

There are good reasons to support all of these candidates. I hope that what we are argueing about our opinions of the relative importance of those reasons. I think our personal evaluations should be respected.

For my purposes, exactly no personal characteristics are relevant when it comes to opinions here.
Even if they are media writers\broadcasters, etc.

[BenDavid]

71. every woman in this forum should be pissed at your comments

and what you are really saying is women cannot be right because they will always side with another woman. That is sexist.

[Maven]

76. This is...sad. nt

[ginchinchili]

82. Sad, but predictable. That's what we've come to now.

[donsu]

85. all the dem candidates should demand Kucinich be at debate

are they person enough to do that?

[Occam Bandage]

88. Before the endorsement: "Edwards will win, and it'll be a huge coup!" After the endorsement:

"Buncha dumb broads."

[goldcanyonaz]

91. What a bunch of cackling shrill voiced heifers!

:sarcasm:

[Beacool]

92. Your comment is very sexist.

I am filled with pride to vote for a woman, but I would never vote for her if I didn't agree with her position on the issues.

I whooped with joy when I was watching Edwards this morning on CBS and it was mentioned that the Register endorsed Hillary. I was sure that they would endorse either Edwards or the new "Golden Boy" of the party. Kudos for Hillary, experience DOES matter in a potential president!!!

[dugggy]

97. Thank you Demoines Register! This should put Hillary over the top

and finishes Obama in NH primary. I understand the major newspaper in NH
also endorsed Hillary. Way to go guys!

[LittleBlue]

98. It would be nice if we had a more representative board

I bet most of those are white women in their 50's and 60's. It would be nice to see an endorsement by men and women of a variety of ethnicities.

[zulchzulu]

99. The Des Moines Register has been wrong on their choices since at least 1988

Edwards in 2004, Bradley in 2000, Simon in 1988. They didn't endorse in 1992 because Harkin was running in essentially an uncontested race and BIll Clinton was running for re-election in 1996.

They swing. They miss. All the best to the Clinton campaign for being chosen.

:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

101. God who got a hold of all those sour grapes!

Yikes!

[suston96]

102. "The Des Moines Register editorial board is composed of mostly women..."

...and we can only hope that a Hillary Clinton administration will follow suit and have mostly women ....

Because the "mostly men" administrations, present and past, have been generally dull, and mostly repeated failures.