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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:48 PM Original message |
Why is Hillary getting a pass on being a Barry Goldwater follower? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. . |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Youd think this would be more important that Obama's drug use. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Now there's a desperate plea if I ever heard one. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. You're kidding right? She was 14 or 15 when she supported |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Having been born in 1947, Hillary would have been 17 when |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. LOL! |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #34 |
93. Obama-ites are grasping at straws |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Wow. What a disconnect from reality. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. the answer - she hasn't |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I haven't heard criticism about it |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. We don't doubt she had them. |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama doesn't use drugs |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. NOW? Dear Lord, we hope not! |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. Hillary doesn't support Goldwater. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. you're kidding right? |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Being a canibal... |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Why is she getting a pass? |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You mean like Obama's drug use? |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kucinich gets a pass for being a rabid anti-choicer more often than this. |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. What I find suspicious is when he changed. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Yes, he changed right before he ran for President |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Hillary being a closet Republican" Barack Obama should publically apologize for this remark. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Hope you ain't holding your breath. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. Thanks for not hoping I am holding my breath! |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. She was President of the Young Republicans at Wellesley, too. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. That's interesting. Do you have a link? And for how long? nt |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. It doesn't say for exactly how long, but she began in her freshman year: |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. "I sometimes think that I didn't leave the Republican Party, as much as it left me" |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
100. Hillary is no "sell-out". Her agenda *is* the DLC/Barry Goldwater agenda. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. No big whoop. Lot's of people changed from right to left.... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
101. Hillary hasn't changed from right to left. She is trying to move the Democratic Party rightward.(nt) |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. I hope there were no HRC supporters here who had a problem with Oprah voting for Republicans then. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. I hope we don't plan on claiming Ronald Reagan as one of ours. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. for the love of the rational, what does that have to do with anything |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. I agree. DU has been far to kind and gentle with Hillary this cycle. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. LOL! |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I guess I would say: |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. Because weather vanes are just peachy? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. I was raised into a Puke/Goldwater family |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
103. My dad was a Goldwater conservative and he says that it's nothing like |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. If "getting a pass" means being mentioned 10,000 times on DU, then she's getting a pass |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. This wouldn't bother me from any candidate... |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. I can't stand her. But.... |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I think that was the whole point of the OP. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. OK. I tuned in late. nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. even i really do not care if she was anymore. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
33. Just as stupid and petty as the Obama thread |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Good point. |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. DLC...Just a neocon with a D instead of R. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. you musts be purple from all that koolaid you've been gulping. |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Ideologically speaking please tell me the differences in neocon and dlc? nt |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. What was wrong with Goldwater? |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Ha! Things would be more down to earth, for sure. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
63. ben, you should check your history...the radical republican party that we all know... |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. This is probably not the thread to get into it to deep |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
41. I couldn't agree more. |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
44. Well, she hasn't. But she wasn't even old enough to vote when she supported him. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
46. Because, as far as I know, being a Rep isn't an illegal activity. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Speaking of illegal activities, someone needs to ask her if she inhaled when Bill "didn't" |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Are you incapable of staying on topic at all? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Um, the topic was illegal activities... did I hit a tender Hillaryworld nerve? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. No dearie. The topic was Hillary and Goldwater. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
98. well, you are accusing a Democratic Presidential candidate |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
47. She shouldn't -- if Obama is going under scrutiny for what he did as a teenager |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Last time I checked |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. So what do you think of Bill and Hillary's felony crime of smoking marijuana? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Here's the thing about that |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I have an idea because Bill talked about it -- so I think Hillary should be asked about it, too. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. okay |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
48. She shouldn't -- if Obama is going under scrutiny for what he did as a teenager |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
52. Do you people even have a clue as to who Barry Goldwater was? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I'm thinking the majority response would be no... |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
97. I do. What's your point? nt |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Usually, it's been cases of Democrats who become Republicans. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
56. Do you know how many years ago that was? |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
60. I started out as a dem because of Jack Kennedy; then I worked hard for |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
62. So how does being a Goldwater girl in 1964 compare with being a pothead and coke snorter whenever |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
64. Hold on, I'm trying to remember what I did 40 + years ago. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
66. It doesn't count. It was before she started tweezing her eyebrows, and her vision |
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libertariandemocrat (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
68. I can't stand Hillary, but this is ridiculous |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
71. Because she's so "picked on" by the media |
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forsberg (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
73. Well the GOP gave Reagan a pass for being a FDR supporting Dem |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
74. Well lookee here then: |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. more hypocrisy exposed. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
76. Good question. K&R. |
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forsberg (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. After all that she's done...she still has to prove herself a Dem |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
79. So |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
80. A closet republican? |
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Catbird (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. She was from a Republican family |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. And she became a Democrat before she could vote |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
105. In her freshman year at Wellesley, she was president of the Young Republicans, |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
83. tripe |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. She was young and impulsive |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
108. Ohhh, she looks so cute in this picture! n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. No offense but I don't give |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
87. Youthful idealism = being a Manchurian Candidate? Tell us more, why don't you? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Finishing high school. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. My point is: Do you (and the OP) have any room in your thoughts for PERSONAL GROWTH? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Yes, I do. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Interesting. Thanks for something actually thoughtful about Hillary's history... |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
107. Read this post. n/t |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
92. Goldwater Was Right, Hillary Looks Even Better |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
94. I don't care about that |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
96. Because everyone's always so easy on Hillary? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
99. WHY OH WHY DO YOU GIVE HILLARY A FREE PASS ON THIS DU?!?!?!? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. I think when it comes to Hillary and DU, that's a "free pass." |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
102. My dad was a Goldwater Repub in his youth. Now he is a Green. People change. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
104. My mom voted for Goldwater in 1964 |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
109. Well lets see Wes Clark supported Ronald Reagan...Jim Webb supported Reagan and voted Allen... |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
110. How important was it that Senator Byrd was a KKK member in his younger days. |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
111. Same pass we give John Dean |
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