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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:49 PM
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Interesting Quote: Republicans fear Edwards
"There's not a single Republican I've talked to in Washington who's not more worried about John Edwards than John Kerry."
- Weekly Standard editor William Kristol, this weekend on Fox News Sunday.
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:51 PM
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1. Can't take a neocon's word without a grain of salt
He could either be
1. Sincerely honest because he doesn't really care that much about the election since he has plans to infest a new administration.
2. Using reverse psychology assuming that Democrats do the opposite of what he says.
3. Speaking strategically to get Democrats to support a weak candidate.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:54 PM
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2. Republicans aren't that smart
:)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:15 PM
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16. That's why Kristol has to remind Repuiblicans and Ind's like those in WI..
...that they shouldn't vote for Edwards if they want Bush to win.

But they weren't voting for Edwards to help Bush because it's already perfectly clear that if you want Bush to win you shouldn't nominate Edwards.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:35 PM
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18. geez with logic like that
you could choke a chimp.
:crazy:

dp
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:54 PM
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3. Kerry can hit Bush with the AWOL-stick though
That is the significant difference between them. Edwards has a public funding disadvantage, but that can be managed. Kerry does have a great environmental voting record to his credit.

I have seen no proof that either of them can prevail in a cut throat ruthless general election battle vs. the republicans though.

I am a bit concerned that Mr. Edwards is not likely to get reelected to the Senate from NC, I have heard.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:56 PM
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4. Can't be reelected
since he's not running.

dp
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:59 PM
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5. I've been reading threads here for years of his weak position in NC
I am just a little bit concerned.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:01 PM
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6. He already announced
he's giving up his seat. He's definitely not running.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:08 PM
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9. Welcome NC_Nurse
:hi:

good to see another TarHeel in the group!

dp
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:02 PM
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8. I'm not sure how much weaker a
non run for the seat can be, but he's not running for his Senate seat. It's up for grabs.
Repubs are salivating over it now...

not that he did a lot with it for his one term anyway, imo.

dp
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:14 PM
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13. he kept at least 4 wingnuts out of the judiciary until *
put 2 of them in on "recess" appointments :mad:

That alone counts a lot with me.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:26 PM
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20. You mean, votes on
Priscilla Owens? Vote Date: November 14, 2003, 09:38 AM
Edwards (D-NC), Not Voting
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00450

Pryor, Alabama?
Vote Date: November 6, 2003, 12:02 PM
Edwards (D-NC), Not Voting
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00441

Pickering?
was not nominated, and is only in his seat until 1/05 at which point will have to be renominated and put before the Senate again.

JE won't be there as a Senator, who knows where he'll be...

dp
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:12 PM
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11. the AWOL stick is a whiffle ball bat at this point
any further efforts in this area are going to do more harm than good.

Find sme real issues to address.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:01 PM
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7. OK sure, this could be sleight of hand
but if the GOP really would prefer to see Edwards at the top of the ticket then why are they not sinking Kerry as they did Dean and Clark with their iron grip of the media ?

I think they're standing pat with the meaningless jab here and there to let people know they're not asleep because they have the candidate they want.

Any other explination for it ?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:13 PM
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12. Why Did The GOP Smear Kerry With The Bimbo LIE?
If they're really afraid of Edwards... when are they going to do an attack ad against him?
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:14 PM
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14. Yes
It wasn't their iron grip on the media that sunk Dean. The media feeding frenzy that helped to sink him was just what passes for journalism these days, not necessarily anything partisan. Dean's fall, Kobe, Jacko, it's all the same to them. However, I don't know which one the Republicans really do fear. From what I've heard from a senior member of Congress is that the White House has been worried since Iowa. The candidates that they thought, rightly or wrongly, they could handle didn't make the cut. The party, appearances at DU to the contrary, is pretty united. Either Kerry or Edwards' support is very much tranferrable to the other, but what they're expecting and what's really scaring them is a Kerry/Edwards ticket. That might even be keeping Rove up nights. I don't know but I hope so. It's also not lost on them that the stories about their screw-ups have had more legs than the bile they've vainly tried to plant about our candidates of late. If only it can keep up this way right through November.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:10 PM
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10. Yeah right.
That must be why the corporate media is building him up.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:30 PM
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17. Imagine how it is here in NC
every newscast, every lead up to a news hour is the latest info no matter how repetitive of JohnnyEdward's latest movement...
yet for the last several years, he was a non-entity on the local news.

well, there were some news reports.
http://www.ncwarn.org/media/past%20nc%20warn%20nr/nr-11-18-02EdwardsAbandons.htm

dp
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PatrioticOhioLiberal Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:15 PM
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15. Why would anyone
believe anything a republican says? :shrug:

If a republican says it you know it's a lie...if more than one republican says it you know it's a conspiracy.

Republicans have enough on both the top candidates to create a giant wave of doubt about their feasability as president with the electorate.

Hopefully everyone else will have NO doubts about Bush's incompetence and will vote the little pr*ck out of office.

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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:42 PM
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19. Yeah like I believe anything that snake says!
Hey everyone, Kristol is a lying serpent! Kerry is beating the crap out of Bush and everything the vaunted Rove machine has tried has blown up on them! Their knees are quaking!

Kristol lies! He is a neocon from hell. Whatever he says do, you do the exact opposite and you will be close to being right.

Just today, Kerry challenged Bush to a debate on Vietnam, which is something Edwards cannot do. And it is something Bush cannot do either, which means we win another point or two.

I like Edwards, but lets face it, there isn't much there in the way of experience. And he's one of those bigtime trial lawyers who are part of what is wrong with health care today...come on! Rove would kill him.

Let him be Attorney General...he even looks like Bobby Kennedy. And he is the right age to wait until he IS ready. Edwards can wait till 2012.
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